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(Live Science)   Surprising activity discovered at Yellowstone Supervolcano. EVERYBODY PANIC   (livescience.com) divider line 198
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2007-03-14 02:14:53 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: untrustworthy:, you making fun of my speech impediment?

It's twoo, it's twoo! :D


Mawage. Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Mawage, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam...
 
2007-03-14 02:15:10 PM  
i4.photobucket.com
 
2007-03-14 02:15:42 PM  
<sigh>

OK, let's be literal instead:
- this is a super volcano - if it goes up, kiss pretty much of all of the Midwest goodbye.
- the resulting ash plume will likely push the planet into an ice age (micro? perhaps - not sure, but enough to do severe and lasting damage).
- it is questionable if the human race can actually survive this - and if we did, we'd likely be starting over (say hello to sticks and stones).

- solution: there is none.

So - I'm willing to have a bit of irrational fun with it.

...but, if you disagree, tough.
 
2007-03-14 02:15:43 PM  
is yellow stone a product of a plate movement or is it one giant mantle plume?

It's a mantle plume.
 
2007-03-14 02:16:11 PM  
untrustworthy: /fixed

Dammit, I better be getting married. I didn't spend that much damn money on catering for nothing...
 
2007-03-14 02:16:16 PM  
It's refreshing to come in here, away from the noise and furor of a political thread, and find the Usual Conservative Suspects bashing Bush. Now I *know* they're trolls.
/ ;)
 
2007-03-14 02:16:20 PM  
if any of the models are remotely correct yellowstone going could kill 1/2 or more of the population indirectly...anyone have a trigger?
 
2007-03-14 02:16:54 PM  
MyMindIsGoingDave: Mawage. Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Mawage, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam...

Oh christ...I wonder if I can get our minister to conduct the service like that...
 
2007-03-14 02:17:34 PM  
Running a-puck

f I recall correctly this one is caused by being over a hot spot like the Hawaiin islands. So big magma plume it is. What makes this one so dangerous is that the type of magma has a higher than normal amount of dissolved gasses under extreme pressure. One theory goes that if the dissolved gasses find an easy way to the surface they expand explosively, which will make a bigger passage for more gas to expand expolsively, etc

most silicic magma is explosive in the way you describe. co2 and water will expand violently (like explosions such as st. helens). basaltic magma doesnt have as many of these gases trapped in it, so it is less violent\viscous. and thanks for the info about the mantle plume\yellow stone. i actually have been wondering about that for awhile. i wasnt aware of any major plates over there.
 
2007-03-14 02:17:36 PM  
Zafler: if any of the models are remotely correct yellowstone going could kill 1/2 or more of the population indirectly...anyone have a trigger?

No...but you can be sure I'm pointing all my fans towards California.
 
2007-03-14 02:17:38 PM  
every time someone says the "DONT PANIC" cliche, they add to the stupidity of the thing they are making fun of.
 
2007-03-14 02:18:14 PM  
IXI Jim IXI
Oh christ...I wonder if I can get our minister to conduct the service like that...

I'd think your future care taker may be a mite put out if you did that ... as in you sleeping alone during the honey moon.
 
2007-03-14 02:18:18 PM  
http://www.solcomhouse.com/yellowstone.htm

Everything you need to know about the Yellowstone Supervolcano and it's effect on the world if it blows.
 
2007-03-14 02:19:45 PM  
Zafler: I'd think your future care taker may be a mite put out if you did that ... as in you sleeping alone during the honey moon.

I think that would be the least of my worries...
 
2007-03-14 02:20:08 PM  
Toba! Toba! Toba!

Toba's my favorite volcano ever. Plus if it weren't for Toba, I would probably be a Neanderthal :(
 
2007-03-14 02:20:52 PM  
For the past 17 years, researchers used Global Positioning System (GPS) satellites to monitor the horizontal and vertical motion of the Yellowstone caldera

Isn't it possible that the variations that were picked up (measured in inches, according to TFA) were from the satellite drifting a little in orbit?

/Not an astronaut/vulcanologist/NASA geek
//Just an ASP programmer
///Response.Write ("Slashies FTW")
 
2007-03-14 02:20:57 PM  
 
2007-03-14 02:21:05 PM  
IXI Jim IXI

i would have expected to see you in the radium thread. your lack of faith is disturbing
 
2007-03-14 02:21:20 PM  
infantry: didnt know that divergent plates could produce massive volcanoes other than shield types. those particular kinds of volcanoes are not particularly explosive either. is yellow stone a product of a plate movement or is it one giant mantle plume?

Running a-puck: If I recall correctly this one is caused by being over a hot spot like the Hawaiin islands. So big magma plume it is. What makes this one so dangerous is that the type of magma has a higher than normal amount of dissolved gasses under extreme pressure. One theory goes that if the dissolved gasses find an easy way to the surface they expand explosively, which will make a bigger passage for more gas to expand expolsively, etc.

I get the same way after eating Mexican food.
 
2007-03-14 02:22:15 PM  
Why does the Yellowstone Supervolcano hate America?
images.livescience.com
 
2007-03-14 02:22:57 PM  
...on the plus side, it could eliminate a vast majority of the food producing regions, making the country hungry.

Moran.


Not really. A large portion of the foot shortfall could be made up by simply switching from our current inefficient (but delicious) system of feeding grains to meat animals, to simply using the grains themselves. The rest of it could be made up by purchasing foodstuffs directly from overseas instead of having to fund gigantic farm subsidies to agrabusiness in the midwest so that politicians can get votes from those regions.
 
2007-03-14 02:23:02 PM  
2007-03-14 01:54:34 PM apeiron242

This is the volcano that would destroy north america, right?


This is the volcano that would destroy most of the world.



Yes I suppose you could argue that in terms of actual death within days then it would only destroy North America. However if you factor in the wars/famine that would immediately follow not even combined with the fact that it would plunge us into a mini-iceage then it would be globally catastrophic.

Of course, if we survive, we might get another crop of high quality violins.
 
2007-03-14 02:23:15 PM  
When this thing goes, it's going to suck. HARD.

Hopefully at some point before it goes off we'll have the technology to control it.
 
2007-03-14 02:23:33 PM  
aspAddict: Isn't it possible that the variations that were picked up (measured in inches, according to TFA) were from the satellite drifting a little in orbit?

No.
 
2007-03-14 02:23:52 PM  
Infantry

and thanks for the info about the mantle plume\yellow stone. i actually have been wondering about that for awhile. i wasnt aware of any major plates over there.

If you look at satellite images, you can see the "trail" where the plate moved over the stationary plume (the Snake River Valley).
 
2007-03-14 02:24:27 PM  
"What the researchers think is happening, on a short-term basis at least, is that the bulging Yellowstone hotspot north of the Tetons is pushing against the north edge of Jackson Hole and jamming it against the mountains."


/fap fap fap
 
2007-03-14 02:24:43 PM  
Wow, I had to wach that Discovery channel movie just yesterday for my "Geological Hazards" class. Ironic if it goes off now.
 
2007-03-14 02:25:05 PM  
CoolBeans

Moran
 
2007-03-14 02:25:24 PM  
And my ins agent laughed when I took earthquake ins out on my house in Nebraska... 15.00 a year and no deductable.... come on give me a 7!!!! I need a new basement and kitchen!!! WOOO

/Originally from SF so they dont bother me at all...
 
2007-03-14 02:25:43 PM  
infantry: i would have expected to see you in the radium thread. your lack of faith is disturbing

Damn...I totally missed that one.

Isadora Duncan Idaho: Why does the Yellowstone Supervolcano hate America?

Great...one MORE disaster I have to worry about possibly wrecking my honeymoon.
 
2007-03-14 02:26:05 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: I think that would be the least of my worries...

That's why I offered the assless pantaloons yesterday.
 
2007-03-14 02:26:18 PM  
We're all going to die. But, we'll have access to free heat before we go.....
/i'll get the marshmallows
 
2007-03-14 02:26:36 PM  
Wow, according to the data it looks like it could go RIGHT NOW!!!

Give or take 50,000 years.
 
2007-03-14 02:27:36 PM  
Running a-puck
No.

Thanks for clearing that up for me! *grin*

Seriously, I figured that they had figured out some way to compensate for that - it was just the first thought that popped into my head.
 
2007-03-14 02:27:57 PM  
theorellior: That's why I offered the assless pantaloons yesterday.

Yeah, because if she's gonna cut off my schlong in my sleep, I want to make it as easy as possible for her to get to it...
 
2007-03-14 02:28:42 PM  
Global warming "crisis"?

Solved.
 
2007-03-14 02:28:55 PM  
Corvus: Wow, according to the data it looks like it could go RIGHT NOW!!!

Give or take 50,000 years.


Not to mention that 3 data points do not really give you much in the way of predictive power. File this one under "shiat that I can't do anything about, that we don't know enough about, so why worry about".
 
2007-03-14 02:29:03 PM  
TheWizard Of course, if we survive, we might get another crop of high quality violins.
FTW!
 
2007-03-14 02:29:31 PM  
IXI Jim IXI
No...but you can be sure I'm pointing all my fans towards California.

You fool! If that much volcanic ash comes in contact with California's lingering cloud of suck, the resulting suck singularity will pull in all things cool and groovy within a 500 mile radius until it reaches critical mass and explodes in a massive detonation of toxic mediocrity and all-around shiattyness. The whole WORLD will suck!!

/of course, some are of the opinion, myself included, that this has already happened and the world couldn't possibly suck any more than it already does. But why tempt fate?
 
2007-03-14 02:30:07 PM  
Why is EVERYBODY PANICing? This sounds like the perfect way to counteract global warming.
 
2007-03-14 02:30:34 PM  
To those of you saying "Well, at least ______ is outside of the blast zone. I'll be alright"

No you wouldn't.

The amount of ash and gases it would shoot into the atmosphere would pretty much decimate global weather for decades. There would be no safe place(maybe Australia).

Mass starvation due to crops dying, contamination of above ground aquifers, forests and their greenhouse gas filtering capabilities ruined. Earth would take decades to recover.

/The more you know....
 
2007-03-14 02:30:59 PM  
vertigo32: If this volcano explodes, don't expect to hear me give any sympathy to the western half of the United States. They were the ones who decided to build their cities in the destruction zone of this supervolcano, what were they thinking?

That's right. Human beings should only live in the safe zones, such as... ummm... let's see... uhhh...

Holy fark... we're DOOOMED!!!!

/going to sing the Doom Song, now...
 
2007-03-14 02:31:36 PM  
Cubicle Jockey: Not really. A large portion of the foot shortfall could be made up by simply switching from our current inefficient (but delicious) system of feeding grains to meat animals, to simply using the grains themselves. The rest of it could be made up by purchasing foodstuffs directly from overseas instead of having to fund gigantic farm subsidies to agrabusiness in the midwest so that politicians can get votes from those regions.

It's gonna be hard to grow much when the sky is black.
 
2007-03-14 02:32:16 PM  
aspAddict: Thanks for clearing that up for me! *grin*

Seriously, I figured that they had figured out some way to compensate for that - it was just the first thought that popped into my head.


*grin* I was going to go on, but I typed that and just thought it was funny.

My understanding is that satellites do not drift in orbit in unexpected ways. If they ever start to then we know we have to go back and change a whole lot of physics text books.

In addition, if they did suddenly starting doing the funky chicken in orbit it would be very very noticable, since the signal from one sattelite would suddenly be very off from all the others.

This is not a field that I know a great deal about, but I believe what I said is factual.
 
2007-03-14 02:32:58 PM  
xalres: /of course, some are of the opinion, myself included, that this has already happened and the world couldn't possibly suck any more than it already does. But why tempt fate?

Florida, then? :D
 
2007-03-14 02:33:05 PM  
Hmm, according to the LiveScience.com link on the page, the #1 mega disaster for earth is....the total destruction of earth. It cites such plausible and likely events as black holes and antimatter reactions.
I thought about thinking of something witty, but this really spoke for itself.

Oh, and an eastern US coast tsunami is ranked way higher on the list than a west US coast one. Take that, west coast!
 
2007-03-14 02:33:23 PM  
untrustworthy: It's gonna be hard to grow much when the sky is black.

Although the sunsets should be SPECTACULAR.
 
2007-03-14 02:34:06 PM  
I only live a couple of hundred miles away. What's the worst that could happen?
 
2007-03-14 02:34:30 PM  
DecemberNitro

Moran

Can you qualify that remark? Which of my previous statements offended your sensibilities? The one where I was being somewhat less than serious or the one where I suggested that if this puppy erupts that it will likely be the end of the human race.

Or both?
 
2007-03-14 02:35:11 PM  
untrustworthy: "It's gonna be hard to grow much when the sky is black."

Oh, The sky is black
And all the leaves are brown
My head's as shriveled as a baked potatoe...

/schpadoinkle
 
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