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(BBC)   In a brilliant victory for common sense, most new houses in the U.S. will be built with two master bedrooms, ensuring couples can finally get some freakin' sleep   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 201
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2007-03-12 03:47:43 PM
Perhaps the couples who 'need' this sort of arrangement ought not to have been married in the first place?
 
2007-03-12 04:32:59 PM
I for one welcome our new Victorian overlords.
 
2007-03-12 04:37:33 PM
jackmalice: I for one welcome our new Victorian overlords.

Hah! That bed's still too risque' for the Victorians--look, it has bare legs!
 
2007-03-12 04:43:39 PM
i know people who do this. they're also in couples therapy.

personally, i love sleeping next to my fiance, even though we have totally opposite habits. i like warm, he needs cold. i go to bed early and get up late, he goes to bed late and gets up early. i wrap myself up in blankets, he sleeps in nothing pretty much. but it's just so comforting to have him there. plus, easy access for morning sex.
 
2007-03-12 04:47:42 PM
gah.
Not only is this depressing its just not true. I design homes for a living and no one has ever asked for this. ever.
 
2007-03-12 04:55:08 PM
muninsfire: Perhaps the couples who 'need' this sort of arrangement ought not to have been married in the first place?

Why do you say that? My wife and I often sleep in different beds. It has nothing to do with our relationship. It has to do with being able to sleep.
 
2007-03-12 05:14:05 PM
untrustworthy: Why do you say that? My wife and I often sleep in different beds. It has nothing to do with our relationship. It has to do with being able to sleep.

Tossing and turning, sure, have seperate beds, if you really need it.

Seperate bedrooms, though, is a bit much. I would suggest that many couples who 'need' seperate bedrooms have other issues in their relationship--and are unwilling to work them out to such a degree that they can stand to sleep with each other.
 
2007-03-12 05:14:50 PM
Thank goodness the Brits are keeping us Americans up to date with what's going on here in the States!
 
2007-03-12 05:16:44 PM
quickdraw: gah.
Not only is this depressing its just not true. I design homes for a living and no one has ever asked for this. ever.


Out of interest what is the wackiest request you've been commissioned for?
 
2007-03-12 05:16:46 PM
muninsfire: Seperate bedrooms, though, is a bit much. I would suggest that many couples who 'need' seperate bedrooms have other issues in their relationship--and are unwilling to work them out to such a degree that they can stand to sleep with each other.

Nah, one of parents will often be found passed out on the couch in the morning, not due to any marital issues, but more likely due to one of them not being able to sleep, and not wanting to wake the other one with use of the computer, reading light, etc.

Besides, this article says to me that more people want a guest room as a full suite, rather than one master per adult in the house.
 
2007-03-12 05:16:59 PM
I always thought the living room was the second master bedroom in my parents house.

/Bedrooms for mum, couch for dad.
 
2007-03-12 05:17:00 PM
muninsfire:

No it just makes it less awkward when the girlfriend wants to stay over
 
2007-03-12 05:17:07 PM
My wife and I have slept in different rooms for years. It began because we were on totally opposite shifts. I slept in the daytime, she slept at night. When we got on the same schedule, we found that we just liked it better in separate rooms. We both toss and turn, we both are cover hogs, and she's consistently freezing, while I'm always hot. Plus, in my room, I can have the television and she can have all her girly things in hers. We're very happy and very much in love.

The true secret to happiness is separate bathrooms. Believe it.
 
2007-03-12 05:17:46 PM
bah, not the article, but the occurrence.
 
2007-03-12 05:18:20 PM
"personally, i love sleeping next to my fiance"

As soon as he turns into a husband and you have a couple of kids, you get back to me.
 
2007-03-12 05:18:34 PM
Perfect solution for intense snoring.
 
2007-03-12 05:18:54 PM
How the hell is my bedroom supposed to stay clean when my wife doesn't have to sleep in there and get disgusted enough to do something about the mess?
 
2007-03-12 05:19:09 PM
quickdraw Not only is this depressing its just not true. I design homes for a living and no one has ever asked for this. ever.

I believe you, even though I'm not in the biz, I just like looking at floorplans (and very very occasionally, buying).

This reads like the "OMG teens r havin' rainbow parties" kind of sensational journalism.

Now, I could see a 'flex suite' used as a home office/nursing room/guest bedroom or something. But two masters suites? Come on.
 
2007-03-12 05:19:26 PM
My wife and I sleep in the same bed together. We shower together. We spend all of our time in each other's presence. We wear each other's clothing and only use one toothbrush. When we feel the urge to relieve ourselves, we do it on a toilet built for two. I chew food and then regurgitate it into her mouth, and she does the same for me.

Any of you who don't do likewise obviously just don't love each other.
 
2007-03-12 05:19:28 PM
Whilst in the Bible Belt, the focus has been not so much on two master bedrooms, but more on one big Slave & Master bedroom.

Because Catholics are naughty and need spankings.
 
2007-03-12 05:19:33 PM
Married couples sleeping apart is sad, but when either starts snoring, getting up for the bathroom, tending to the kids, or working different hours, I can see it being necessary.
 
2007-03-12 05:20:00 PM
cheshirecatsmileyface:
i know people who do this. they're also in couples therapy.

personally, i love sleeping next to my fiance, even though we have totally opposite habits. i like warm, he needs cold. i go to bed early and get up late, he goes to bed late and gets up early.

personally, i love sleeping next to my fiance, even though we have totally opposite habits.


i love sleeping next to my fiance

my fiance
 
2007-03-12 05:20:36 PM
reminds me of my ex. Her parents were devout republicans, but they slept in different bedrooms (even when we stayed there). He was a traveling salesman, she was a customer service rep for an insurance company. going and spending time with them when they were together was sad. The whole situation was fake and they forced themselves to keep up appearances.

oh well, their daughter is a skank anyway.
 
2007-03-12 05:20:47 PM
muninsfire: Seperate bedrooms, though, is a bit much. I would suggest that many couples who 'need' seperate bedrooms have other issues in their relationship--and are unwilling to work them out to such a degree that they can stand to sleep with each other.

How many rooms have more than one bed? And why do you assume that happy couples have to sleep in the same bed all of the time? Everyone is different, and every relationship is different. Some just like a little bit of space.
 
2007-03-12 05:20:53 PM
The best part of this (and bear in mind I haven't RTFA) is that the male spouses will be able to knock one off on a regular basis.

We've gotta keep those prostates empty and clean!

/not kidding
//happily married for 12 years
///DEATH TO KITTENS!!!
 
2007-03-12 05:21:15 PM
lhclubs: only use one toothbrush.

That's where it started getting a little ridiculous. ;-þ

/Few things hotter than your SO wearing one of your shirts.
 
2007-03-12 05:21:15 PM
My hubby and I sleep separately because he snores like a lumberjack convention soundtrack. But... we still snuggle and all the other married stuff. Just that I like to be able to sleep at night...
 
2007-03-12 05:21:29 PM
I slept in the spare room last night, to give her a break from my snoring. No big deal any more after nearly 18 years of being married. I'll just have to take her in the laundry room later today.:)
 
2007-03-12 05:22:06 PM
I had a chick once who used to toss and turn, wad up the blankets, roll over fifteen times a night and knee me or elbow me all night long. Nearly tossed me out on the floor many times.

Loved her dearly, but couldn't sleep with her. She said I was being cold and aloof when I demanded she have her own bed.

There is a definite plus to giving your mate a reasonable amount of distance and space; saves fights in the long run.
 
2007-03-12 05:22:13 PM
Nah, the second master bedroom is probably for the spoiled kids.
 
2007-03-12 05:22:17 PM
muninsfire: I would suggest that many couples who 'need' seperate bedrooms have other issues in their relationship--and are unwilling to work them out to such a degree that they can stand to sleep with each other.

Nah. Sometimes you just need to be able to sack out in the other room. Part of being in a mature, adult relationship is knowing that you don't need to be joined at the hip 24/7 in order for everything to be ok.

The need for another room is especially pressing if you have an infant or small child. Some nights one spouse absolutely needs to get some sleep without being disturbed -- something important the next day, for example. Or you're rotating the child care duties. Or maybe one spouse snores, or kicks, or gets up to pee often. When my wife was in her 8th month she was up 4 times a night to pee. If I had to be in court the next morning, for example, I needed to be at 100%. And that wasn't going to happen if I was up all night.
 
2007-03-12 05:22:32 PM
Honey - is that you? get that laundry done will you? nudge nudge wink wink
 
2007-03-12 05:23:46 PM
I occasionally move to another room after the GF goes to sleep. She tends to "roam" over the bed while sleeping, so I find it easier to just hit the sofa or a bed in one of the other bedrooms. She was a put off at first, but eventually she understood that if I don't get enough ZZZZ, I'm not overly pleasant to be around.
 
2007-03-12 05:24:49 PM
If my wife sends me one more email today asking me a question, I'm going to send her this link.
 
2007-03-12 05:25:09 PM
Litig8r: Part of being in a mature, adult relationship is knowing that you don't need to be joined at the hip 24/7 in order for everything to be ok.

*DING*

We have a winner!
 
2007-03-12 05:25:17 PM
I had an apartment with two master bedrooms right after college. The rooms were on opposite sides of the house. My room had the bathroom in it while his bathroom was just outside of his room. Never heard him boinking his girl or arguing or anything. Pretty good set-up.
 
2007-03-12 05:25:55 PM
untrustworthy: How many rooms have more than one bed?

I've seen many. While bunkbeds may not be exactly de rigeur for adults, there are alternatives....

Everyone is different, and every relationship is different. Some just like a little bit of space.

This is true--but those relationships that I have seen that have been stable over long periods of time have generally entailed one bed per couple.

/Is 60 years' worth of stable marriage good 'nuff?
 
2007-03-12 05:25:56 PM
The brilliant, lovely, and all-around-wonderful Mrs. Machine and I maintain separate residences at the moment, because we work in two different cities. We wind up spending about 1/3 to 1/2 of our time together.

Actually, once we get our geographic problems solved, we've seriously discussed maintaining separate residences, so we'll have the best of both worlds - togetherness when we want it, alone-time when we want it.

Money isn't an issue (for me, anyway), and we're also both "of a certain age" (me: 42, her: 47) and kind of set in our ways.

/$0.02
 
2007-03-12 05:26:18 PM
UncleOwen The true secret to happiness is separate bathrooms. Believe it.

Funny, I was best friends with my first girlfriend for 7 years before we started going out. Those 7 years we shared a bathroom whenever we slept over (totally innocent, we lived 1-7 hours apart in those days.) The moment we were more than friend it became un-kosher to share a bathroom according to her...

/dnrtfa
 
2007-03-12 05:26:31 PM
I love my husband and we have a great relationship but he snores like a chainsaw and I'm a light sleeper. Most nights I end up in the guest bedroom.
 
2007-03-12 05:26:40 PM
Better yet, why not just build 2 separate homes miles away from each other?

I myself prefer the couch in the basement as my fortress of solitude. It's cold down there - but believe me, on some nights, the wife is even colder.
 
2007-03-12 05:26:42 PM
I've always thought a master bedroom with two bathrooms would be great. A big nice one for her and a tiny one for me.
 
2007-03-12 05:26:44 PM
cheshirecatsmileyface: personally, i love sleeping next to my fiance, even though we have totally opposite habits. i like warm, he needs cold. i go to bed early and get up late, he goes to bed late and gets up early. i wrap myself up in blankets, he sleeps in nothing pretty much. but it's just so comforting to have him there. plus, easy access for morning sex.

Wait till you have been married a few years.

Add in kids, dogs, cats and or one or both of you snoring or working different times and it quickly becomes draining.

My wife kicks and talks in her sleep. I snore.

How exactly do you fix that besides separate beds?

Our solution was a big ass king-size bed. Problem solved.

/Had my own blanket and pillows for 5 years now lol.
//Falling asleep while spooing with your GF/BF/Fiance is like taking showers together, its fun at first but gets old and is eventually fun once in awhile.
///Once you get out of the honeymoon stage is where the real fun begins with marriage.
 
2007-03-12 05:26:46 PM
muninsfire /Few things hotter than your SO wearing one of your shirts.

Once, my wife's hot redhead friend came over wearing a sweater on a warm day. My wife was wearing one of my shirts. Her friend got too warm eating dinner out on the porch with a sweater on, so she asked to borrow one of my shirts too.

After dinner, while they were in the kitchen washing and drying the dishes together while still wearing my shirts, I had to retire to the bathroom for a short break.
 
2007-03-12 05:27:07 PM
Litig8r: Nah. Sometimes you just need to be able to sack out in the other room. Part of being in a mature, adult relationship is knowing that you don't need to be joined at the hip 24/7 in order for everything to be ok.

Isn't that what 'work' is for? ;-þ

I do see your point; I just haven't had that particular experience to work from in what I've seen happen.
 
2007-03-12 05:27:11 PM
When in doubt, send him to the couch.
/DRTFA
 
2007-03-12 05:27:12 PM
in response to lhclubs obvious sarcasm:

You're right, my wife and I don't even live in the same town. We never call each other, or write, or anything. We fark other people. I don't even remember her name anymore it's been so long since the -whatchacallit- wedding. But yeah, we are married and love each other deeply still. It's just not necessary to be so 'close' like everyone says.

Reductio ad absurdium is kind of lame, isn't it?
 
2007-03-12 05:28:22 PM
Shared an apartment with an ex for three years (before she became an ex, obviously), having separate bedrooms. I originally figured it'd provide us both with space and privacy and that sleeping separately would be by far the exception rather than the rule. I figured wrong - she claimed I snored (funny, no one else I've slept with has claimed I sound like a chainsaw), and that she couldn't sleep.

My take was that over time, we'd get used to each others' sleeping habits, but that sort of thing only succeeds through time and repetition. When both people aren't wiling to invest, it's not going to work.

We went our separate ways, and I bought a house. With three bedrooms, and only one of them is a Master Suite.

I won't be in another cohabitational relationship sleeping in separate beds. Having separate rooms creates 'roommates', not partnership.

\Just a couple of learned, wiser cents' worth... YMMV.
 
2007-03-12 05:29:12 PM
UncleOwen

I'm totally with you on that
 
2007-03-12 05:30:26 PM
muninsfire: I've seen many. While bunkbeds may not be exactly de rigeur for adults, there are alternatives....

Like what? Twin beds? That doesn't exactly give a couple the opportunity to sleep in the same bed when they choose to.

This is true--but those relationships that I have seen that have been stable over long periods of time have generally entailed one bed per couple.

We have one bed. But I sometimes sleep on the couch or on the guest bed.

/Is 60 years' worth of stable marriage good 'nuff?

Not bad. My wife and I have been together for 15 years now. Practically half of our lives. And everything is good. So who cares where we sleep?
 
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