That's the best headline I've read in weeks!!

Germany trifecta in play?!?!?!?!

LivinDead_Girl

...When will Japan do the same?

Both the Japs and the Russians made the Nazis look like girlscouts during WW2 but you'd never know it by listening to pop culture. The world has always been focused on Hitler giving them the ability to slip under the radar indefinately.

plutoniumfeather

If Hitler posthumously loses his German citizenship, maybe the Mormons could make up for it by baptizing him posthumously?

They already did. He's been de-baptized since, well at least de-listed from the public list.

I think they should name MORE things after Hitler so they can downplay his importance & get on with life (kinda like Mel Brooks).

Adolf Hitler High School? McHitler's Nuremburger drive-thru? How about a visit to your local WaffenHouse for breakfast?

/Dont know why theres no sun up in the sky
//Stormy trooper
///Since my man and I aint together,
////Keeps rainin' all the time

Enough already, hasn't the man suffered enough?!

:P

Why not start a chain of hamburger joints called Schickelgruber's Burgers? Or maybe just Schickelburgers.

My first time in Germany I was told a joke - in English - that the Austrians always reminded everybody about Mozart but didn't have much to say about the Hitler.
When I went to Austria most people were happy to tell me that they weren't like (the formerly a Nazi now UN secretary being outed by media) Kurt Waldheim.
It occurs to me that if everybody (in both countries) was like Hitler or Waldheim there would have been another farking war.

I don't have a point, but I also don't have a grudge.
But Google really should check their facts when making maps
What do they think "earth" is, a chatroom?

I love the Family Guy w/ the different country kiosks...Germany making evil eyes at the Polish sausage booth...Ve were invited!! Nofing happened!!

/not impressed
//Hitler cat thread?

Maybe they can take away his birthday while they're at it.

sometimes i think germany and hitler & the nazis are like homophobes, quietly scooting things under the carpet and vehemently coming down on anything that could possible disrupt their sense of reality... but deep down inside, that little neo-nazi is ready to jump up and hear the call, if only for that sense of pride in being a german....

/dominatrix schadenfreude blockinstackin

Hey, at least Germany acknowledges that they farked up.

Here in Nihon, there are still a lot of people who think the whole "atrocities in WWII" thing is just anti Japanese propaganda.

Five o' Clock Somewhere: //Hitler cat thread?

catsthatlooklikehitler.com?

Wow, he really pissed off a lot people!

/I should read up on him.

That's so weird. Only recently did I learn that the famous landscape artist Hilter was also involved in politics.

theeagle:

W. Bush,

Born in CT

ergo, not a native ot Texas

The_Pole_Of_Justice: Here in Nihon, there are still a lot of people who think the whole "atrocities in WWII"

When I was living in Hong Kong I had a very pleasant conversation with a Japanese man who explained to me, very patiently, that the war crimes Japan was accused of during WWII "didn't count" because the Chinese at the time were simply too stupid to accept the wisdom of the Japanese without violence.

He even went so far as to explain that China would not be the powerhouse it is growing to be without the Japanese "nurturing" from earlier in the century. It almost made my head explode. This guy was well educated, extremely gentle, and otherwise a fantastic human being. He had a real mental block about considering the Chinese as equals, however.

ot=of

The REAL reason people like to hate on Nazis more than commies or japs who also committed atrocities is because they are WHITE (gasp). Flame on.

Diresu :

Nazis were like girl scouts during the holocaust?

Ummmm.... so were the reds

Austria agreed and Hitler was stateless until officially becoming German seven years later.

That's actually a very interesting fact. I wonder how hard statelessness was. Today it'd be an awful biatch, but maybe not so bad back then.

Unless of course there was some sorta major disadvantage of having Austrian citizenship.

WWII wouldn't have happened without Germany.

"Can we denounce Georg W. Bush back to his native land of Texas?"

Texas is not George Bush's NATIVE state. Nor is it Barbara or George H. W. Bush. They're Yankee carpetbaggers.

Bush was born in Connecticut, educated at Ivy League Yale.

Yankees trying to brush off their blue blooded trash fools no one. In fact, the Bushes are one of the problems with Texas.

Thanks a lot.

You can not be serious!

Unreconconfederate :

Texas is not George Bush's NATIVE state. Nor is it Barbara or George H. W. Bush. They're Yankee carpetbaggers.

Bush was born in Connecticut, educated at Ivy League Yale.

Yankees trying to brush off their blue blooded trash fools no one. In fact, the Bushes are one of the problems with Texas.

Thanks a lot.

Even the Texans disavow Bushie-Boy now. He's a Yankee!

(When his poll numbers were high, Texans loved him, but we Yankees still voted against him).

Sorry Texas-farkfaces, HE'S YOURS.

Deal with it, you trailer-trash farks.

Unreconconfederate: Yankees trying to brush off their blue blooded trash fools no one. In fact, the Bushes are one of the problems with Texas.

Dubya was born in the East, yes. But he was raised in Texas. The Bushes moved to Texas when he WAS TWO YEARS OLD for fark's sake. Texas formed who he is.

Texans didn't have that big of an issue with that "carpetbagger" when they elected him Governor.

seithon1: having been to Germany and spending a lot of time talking to a friend of mine there about it, it seems their more interested in just erasing the whole thing, while at the same time feeling massively guilty about the whole damn thing too.

White guilt people, its being instilled in us everyday like being white is a crime.

You know what shiat happens people if we didnt fark up we wouldnt have learned from the past to grow.

November 1989, Thanksgiving evening. The Wall had just come down earlier that month. I'm sitting in the living room watching various CNN coverage with my WWII vet grandfather, football was over for the day. They're replaying a lot of the coverage. The crowds, the celebrations. The speculation as to whether or not East and West Germany would re-unite. I remember my HS social studies teacher being spectacularly wrong on that one. I still remind him to this day.

Grandpa and I watched in silence for a bit. He then got up and started to leave the room, paused, turned to me and said "We're going to have to fight those bastards again within 50 years." He then walked upstairs for some leftovers. That was just over 17 years ago and I remember him saying that like it was yesterday.

When he died in 2005, I sat around with many of his Army buddies as they told me stories of what their unit or Grandpa's unit did during the fight across France and Germany and then after, Grandpa never spoke a word of it. My Dad didn't know 99% of it. One guy's unit was in charge of transporting SS prison camp guards to Nuremberg.

Both situations serve as a stark reminder to me that, fair or not, Germany will never quite atone for its past in many people's eyes.

People don't stay "teh ebil" for ever... Napoleon was "teh ebil" till Hitler came along....

I really do hope you all see what I did there...

Oldiron_79: Napoleon was "teh ebil" till Hitler came along...

So Germans only have to wait 130 years or so. ( or roughly 75-80 more). Problem solved.

I wonder how many atrocities the americans will have their children suffer for. There'll be alot of vengeance waiting for you when your time comes.

nashBridges

When I was living in Hong Kong I had a very pleasant conversation with a Japanese man who explained to me, very patiently, that the war crimes Japan was accused of during WWII "didn't count" because the Chinese at the time were simply too stupid to accept the wisdom of the Japanese without violence.

Yeah, it's amazing. It's this weird combination of superiority complex, martyr complex, and entitlement.

I have a Japanese friend who has lived in the States for about a decade, and he's one of the biggest Japan bashers I've ever met. I learned pretty quick not to discuss stuff like this with him, since he gets really embarrassed. He said it's "like a whole country of backwoods Kentucky."

The longer I live here, the more I'm inclined to agree with him, at least to the extent that backwoods Kentucky has a lot of myopic religious freaks. The religion might not be here, but the close minded zealotry sure as Hell is. Bizarre presumption of superiority that completely ignores history and the outside world? Check. Assumption that anything you don't want to hear is the product of a misunderstanding, or worse, a conspiracy? Check.

What's frustrating is that you can't talk someone out of that kind of dumb. I've never been able to convey to the few Japanese people I've had this conversation with that EVERY culture thought like this at one point, but nearly all of them have grown out of it by now, at least in the majority (although my home country is calling that into question recently.)

It's simultaneously charming and maddening to watch someone believe they're superior because they're about a century behind every other civilized culture on the planet.

/sorry, not about Germany
//or...IS it?

What the hell does any of this have to do with Japan? Unless people just like the safety of Fark's selective racism. The Japanese are just people, for Christ's sake.

omg_lol: I wonder how many atrocities the americans will have their children suffer for. There'll be alot of vengeance waiting for you when your time comes.

The traditional use of proxy war by the Americans make this very unlikely. We're more likely to foment inter or intra-tribal warfare, as one local faction exacts revenge over another, than experience any serious backlash ourselves. Rwanda is a prime example of this. By all rights, the targets for vengence should have been the Belgians or other colonial power, but the Tutsis and Hutus fell on each other with great gusto.

Current troubles (ie 9/11) are more a result of the US being the most visible target to gain global attention in this era of instant news and the Internet rather than any long standing grievance or vengence.

It's tough to sustain a good searing hatred against America when you're gobbling up US made entertainment and Coca-Cola and your kids simply want their MTV and SpongeBob reruns.

Well, Japan is, admittedly, a tangent. The concern is one of atoning for past WWI bullshiat, and that Germany is flagellating itself over it, whereas Japan is still in denial.

So far as "selective racism," I fail to see how noticing open tendencies in a culture denotes racism. Unless you think the comment about Kentucky was racist as well.

We're talking politics, not race.

culture != politics != race

This is a good idea, they should also remove any information about WW2 from their history books.

The_Pole_Of_Justice
Well, Japan is, admittedly, a tangent. The concern is one of atoning for past WWI bullshiat, and that Germany is flagellating itself over it, whereas Japan is still in denial.
Considering the vast majority of people who actually took place in the war are dead, I'm not sure what you want people to do. In denial, I'm not sure where you get this from. Japan has apologized many times, and paid huge reparation costs. I've also seen lots of documentaries on Japanese television that deal with the war, none of them denying or covering anything up. The world you see Japan as being probably isn't the way it actually is. The reason the 'Imperialists', who are basically gangsters using politics to scare people, use old WWII propaganda is because people hate the way things were, and don't want to be there again.

So far as "selective racism," I fail to see how noticing open tendencies in a culture denotes racism. Unless you think the comment about Kentucky was racist as well.
Right, tell that to the hicks talking about the japs and get back to me.

We're talking politics, not race.
Unless the topic has something to do with Japanese politics, I don't really get how this is relevant to anything.

This won't end well.

In denial, I'm not sure where you get this from. Japan has apologized many times, and paid huge reparation costs. I've also seen lots of documentaries on Japanese television that deal with the war, none of them denying or covering anything up. The world you see Japan as being probably isn't the way it actually is.

The problem with talking about cultures is that you inadvertently sound like you're talking about everybody :P Of course, this is not true about everyone here.

Back when I was an English teacher, this kind of thing would rear its ugly head from time to time. Generally I'd change the subject, but on a bad day I'd get sucked into it. It's not everyone, but it's a lot more mainstream than it really should be. Naturally, when a politician or the Government does it, it could well be stirring up BS. But politicians don't do it for shiats and giggles: there's a public responding to it. Can you imagine what would happen in Germany if a politician ran on the platform of "we were misunderstood in WWII?" Yes, there have been some apologies. There have also been some interesting textbooks that the Government had recently approved. And one of the authors just got elected to the Board of Education where I live.

Is it everyone? No. I didn't say it was. Is it the majority? No. I didn't say it was. Is it way too common? Yep.

Right, tell that to the hicks talking about the japs and get back to me.

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, or what your point might be. Unless you mistook my Japanese friend's comments as being from "the hicks."

Unless the topic has something to do with Japanese politics, I don't really get how this is relevant to anything.

This has already been covered.

/sorry for the threadjack. Really.

desolationrow: In denial, I'm not sure where you get this from. Japan has apologized many times, and paid huge reparation costs. I've also seen lots of documentaries on Japanese television that deal with the war, none of them denying or covering anything up.

If you are in Japan and haven't been exposed to the "hidden racism" (as I call it), then perhaps you've been lucky enough to talk only with the right people.

Japanese society isn't racist in the same manner the US isn't racist - it's underground, but still there. Japan gets an extra knock on the head because they refuse to admit they were, at any point in their history, racist. Paying reparations is not the same as admitting you were wrong, and they've never done so.

Hell, a visit from the Prime Minister in Korea to a Japanese war memorial in SK in 2002 was enough for ten South Koreans to cut off their pinky fingers. There was no official apology from Japan, nor was there ever. Japan doesn't think they owe one.

rka: November 1989, Thanksgiving evening. The Wall had just come down earlier that month...

Grandpa and I watched in silence for a bit. He then got up and started to leave the room, paused, turned to me and said "We're going to have to fight those bastards again within 50 years."

So true. Russians really built it because they were sick of fighting them. Seeing that wall come down was a chilling moment for some.

danny_kay

How about Nuremberg or Frankfurt?

I'm in Ansbach, so I'm in between the two.