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(Yahoo)   Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich acknowledged he was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair. Dumbass beats Obvious for the blue ribbon (or dress)   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 550
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2007-03-09 01:17:18 AM
TTIUWP?
pix plz
 
2007-03-09 01:17:21 AM
The people trying to fry Clinton were NOT doing it because of the perjury. Yes, that was the nice, convenient legal reason they used. But no, the whole thing was really about Clinton's affair.
 
2007-03-09 01:17:24 AM
Ok. Enough with this debate.

Yes, a lot of people have been caught in extramarital affairs. That includes a lot of politicians. But Bill Clinton had a reputation for being a bit of a womanizer. Several women have come forward claiming such behavior before he was officially busted, including one that claimed sexual harassment.

But when Clinton was faced with an embarrassing truth, he often lied, and got busted for it. That was his his biggest mistake. We've had several politicians who've admitted to worse things than Clinton did, but they handled it far better. He should have just come forward and admitted to his stupid little foibles.

It's sad. He was a pretty good president and is a pretty good guy. But public perception is a tricky game, even for the best and brightest.
 
2007-03-09 01:17:30 AM
Never mind that the vast majority of Americans, in 1998 and in 2005, the last time (I know of) they were asked, did not find anything wrong in Clinton's trying to protect his family. The only people who bring up the "OMG PERJURY!!!" are Clinton-hating neocons who are unable to realize how happy America was, and how much smaller our federal budget, in those days.
 
2007-03-09 01:17:39 AM
mmmmm... newt
 
2007-03-09 01:17:55 AM
Abbie_Hoffman

Can anyone explain why anyone should care about farking Newt Gringich?


Fear and hatred.
 
2007-03-09 01:18:05 AM
Detroit_Bob: Did he perjure himself regarding the matter? No? Then there isn't a comparison to be made with Clinton.
Did Clinton perjure himself? Unlike Scooter Libby, no, he did not. And I dare you to try to prove that he did.

So, no, there is no comparison between Newt and Clinton. Newt's a douchebag hypocrite, and Clinton's the best President we've had in the last 25 years.
 
2007-03-09 01:18:08 AM
Excuse me, Gringrich.

Why does this guy matter again?

What's going on here?
 
2007-03-09 01:18:39 AM
Zyng: The people trying to fry Clinton were NOT doing it because of the perjury. Yes, that was the nice, convenient legal reason they used. But no, the whole thing was really about Clinton's affair(POLITICS).

/fixed.
 
2007-03-09 01:18:52 AM
Fear and hatred.

Of what? dude.
 
2007-03-09 01:19:04 AM
www.orlyowl.com

I just wanted to be the first.
 
2007-03-09 01:19:52 AM
bubbaprog: OMG PERJURY

Clinton was a good president. But perjury is a crime.
 
2007-03-09 01:20:01 AM
FTA "I drew a line in my mind that said, 'Even though I run the risk of being deeply embarrassed, and even though at a purely personal level I am not rendering judgment on another human being, as a leader of the government trying to uphold the rule of law, I have no choice except to move forward and say that you cannot accept ... perjury in your highest officials."

No bullshiat translation:

"We're playing a game here, a game to discredit our opponents by any means necessary. Whatever dirt I can dig up on you, I'm gonna use it, even if it's personal business. It's a rat race out there, and I'm just another rat. But hey, I'm coming clean, so that makes me better than the other rat over there. Besides, that rat over there has fleas. Look! Fleas!"
 
2007-03-09 01:20:01 AM
Please nominate this man.
 
2007-03-09 01:20:15 AM
Who flippin cares? We're talking about crap that went down TEN years ago between a former president and a former congressman. Ugh, this is really low.
 
2007-03-09 01:20:24 AM
Faethe: Didn't the bar association go after him though?

Sure, but the bar for the Bar (as it were) is set much lower. They can disbar you for things that fall well below the threshold of illegality.
 
2007-03-09 01:20:34 AM
If you're lambasting, indicting, or incriminating someone for something, it's hypocritical to be doing that same something.

Gingrich is an asshole, plain and simple.
 
2007-03-09 01:21:46 AM
untrustworthy: Yes, a lot of people have been caught in extramarital affairs. That includes a lot of politicians. But Bill Clinton had a reputation for being a bit of a womanizer. Several women have come forward claiming such behavior before he was officially busted, including one that claimed sexual harassment.

Rape, too. I mean, he went through a civil trial concerning that shiat. I'm thinking to get to that point, it had to have some sort of foundation, elsewise it would have been dismissed on the merits, outright.

But when Clinton was faced with an embarrassing truth, he often lied, and got busted for it. That was his his biggest mistake. We've had several politicians who've admitted to worse things than Clinton did, but they handled it far better. He should have just come forward and admitted to his stupid little foibles.

Ego-farking-mania.

Not an attribute exclusive to Clinton, though.

It's sad. He was a pretty good president and is a pretty good guy. But public perception is a tricky game, even for the best and brightest.

Ego did it. That's one of the chief things that concerns me about Hillary. How to keep that ego from overshadowing hers once it's not all just a hypothetical. Like, she does make President. Then heeerrrreees Bill.

I really, really would like to hear slick willy explain how that's not likely to happen. With a straight face.
 
2007-03-09 01:22:29 AM
Please. Someone tell me I'm not the only one who thinks Gingrich is a creepy bastard who shouldn't be President.
 
2007-03-09 01:22:38 AM
Republicans: Everything We Do Is Right.

Now back to the meaningless double war we're losing and the cover-up to make sure the Worst President in the World keeps on throwing us into debt.
 
2007-03-09 01:23:14 AM
YoungSwedishBlonde: We're talking about crap that went down TEN years ago between a former president and a former congressman.

Alright I admit, this sentence is misleading. I'm drunk. I meant crap that happened PERTAINING to a former president and a former congressman. Ugh, i don't know whats going to get that image out of my head...

/wait i know
//more booze!!!
 
2007-03-09 01:23:25 AM
Atillathepun: Sure, but the bar for the Bar (as it were) is set much lower. They can disbar you for things that fall well below the threshold of illegality.

Takes a lot for a nest of lawyers to consume their own though, I am thinking. One day I'd like to hear what the ABA exactly busted him on. All the political horseshiat gets a BIT in the way.
 
2007-03-09 01:23:29 AM
nashBridges: Had to be. I was at Ireland's Four Courts in Clarendon/Courthouse during college sometime around 1995 and he showed up with a secret service detail for dinner with a woman who was not his wife. If the press didn't know about it, then they weren't working very hard.

Hell, the man shook hands on the sidewalk before he made it into the restaurant with the woman standing next to him the entire time. He obviously wasn't trying very hard to hide it.


I just remember a story about him serving divorce papers on his wife as she was dying in a hospital from cancer. Shortly after, he was off with another woman. It's late and I may not be remembering that right, or have the right politician. Aww. . . screw it. Newt Gingrich divorced his wife as she lay dying. Spread it around.
 
2007-03-09 01:23:40 AM
'...as an attorney, any member of the bar who knowingly gives false testimony under oath is not only unworthy of my respect, but deserves to lose his license.'

So does Libby still have his?
 
2007-03-09 01:23:52 AM
What's the medias agenda behind giving that asshole airtime?

Really, why farking Newt?
 
2007-03-09 01:23:57 AM
Face it, there is only one "Impeached Perjury Boy".
 
2007-03-09 01:24:12 AM
whidbey: Please. Someone tell me I'm not the only one who thinks Gingrich is a creepy bastard who shouldn't be President.

I could agree with that. But, that doesn't change the fact that he's just a philandering lech, while Clinton is a philandering lech who lied under oath and is unfit to practice law.
 
2007-03-09 01:24:23 AM
Did he lie about it under oath? No? Well, it's not exactly the same thing, now, is it?

Oh, we're back to lying under oath being bad again? The Libby trial must be over.
 
2007-03-09 01:24:24 AM
Abbie Hoffman, It's because he's doing the potential presidential candidate dance, that's why
 
2007-03-09 01:24:30 AM
Okay people we need to stay focused here. Need I remind you people that we don't even have a pic of what the lucky lady looks like. We need to put aside our politics for the time being until was get the hard work done. Alright people, lets make this our finest hour!
 
J3
2007-03-09 01:25:00 AM
Starr's successor could have brought perjury charges in a criminal court after Clinton left office. To avoid that Clinton made a plea arrangement to have any future charges dropped if he surrendered his law license for 5 years. People who plea usually do so because they know there is a good chance they will lose on the charges and want a lessor penalty.
 
2007-03-09 01:25:33 AM
Wobambo: Shortly after, he was off with another woman. It's late and I may not be remembering that right, or have the right politician.

If I'm not wrong, I thought that was Giuliani?
 
2007-03-09 01:25:36 AM
spiderbarks: So does Libby still have his?

Well, that has fark-all to do with the discussion of Clinton and Gingrich. I have no idea, but I imagine a bar complaint will be forthcoming.
 
2007-03-09 01:26:07 AM
And another thing. What a president, or anyone else, does in his or her personal life is usually not relevant to what they do on the job.

I don't care if it's Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton, or George W. Farking Bush -- I don't give a shiat who you're performing with in the bedroom. It's how you perform in office that matters.
 
2007-03-09 01:26:20 AM
Okay, please stop with the "well that's OK because Clinton lied under oath and Newt didn't" crap. Newt Gingrich led a campaign to burn Clinton at the stake for his affair, preaching about the immorality of it and trying to use it to turn the whole country against him. While he was doing that, he was having an affair of his own...this is called hypocrisy, and the Republican practically runs on it like gasoline. Do honestly see nothing wrong with that?
 
2007-03-09 01:26:31 AM
Abbie_Hoffman


Why is the Liberal Media giving this asshat time?

Can anyone explain why anyone should care about farking Newt Gringich?


Because he is a dark-horse candidate for the 2008 presidential election. Which is completely moronic, but hey, he just might get the nod. Because the GOP is just that desperate, and the American public's attention span is just that short.
 
2007-03-09 01:26:35 AM
Noam Chimpsky: Face it, there is only one "Impeached Perjury Boy".

Libby was impeached?

Once again, Memento memory, Clinton was acquitted of perjury.
 
J3
2007-03-09 01:26:57 AM
Clinton's the best President we've had in the last 25 years

Clinton was as much the best president of the last 25 years as he was the first black president!
 
2007-03-09 01:27:32 AM
'People who plea usually do so because they know there is a good chance they will lose on the charges and want a lessor penalty.'

Just ask Rush.
 
2007-03-09 01:27:39 AM
Newt Gingrinch is a slovenly piece of shiat and I welcome any of his future forays into political campaigning. He is arguably the biggest instigator of the Republican party's decent into reactionary insanity and seeing him dragged through cesspools of his own creation is satisfying.

Switching topics, Clinton lied under oath about matters impertinent to the matter being investigated. Being placed under oath does not give free reign for a questioner to ask anything he pleases of the oath-taker. As such, Clinton did not commit perjury and accordingly was not removed from office by the Senate.
 
2007-03-09 01:28:18 AM
Lokichilde: It's because he's doing the potential presidential candidate dance, that's why

Plenty of people are vying for that position, why is Newt making news?

What is Newt going to do?

Why is Newt seen as being a possible candidate?

Think about what the guy did.

He left politics in disgrace, what has changed?
 
2007-03-09 01:28:37 AM
Faethe: Rape, too. I mean, he went through a civil trial concerning that shiat. I'm thinking to get to that point, it had to have some sort of foundation, elsewise it would have been dismissed on the merits, outright.

True. I'm always inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt. But Bill had a reputation. It wasn't completely out of the scope of reasoning.

Ego-farking-mania.

Maybe. But I think he was smart enough to realize just how embarrassing his actions were. And I think he was humiliated by them. He was trying to postpone the inevitable and only made it worse by denying his own guilt.

Not an attribute exclusive to Clinton, though.

Not at all.

Ego did it. That's one of the chief things that concerns me about Hillary. How to keep that ego from overshadowing hers once it's not all just a hypothetical. Like, she does make President. Then heeerrrreees Bill.

Oh, I don't know about that. I think Hillary was far more influential on Bill than he would be on her should she ever (shudder) become president. I get the impression that she has always been a bit of the dominant personality in their relationship, and I think she has become more so in the past few years.

I really, really would like to hear slick willy explain how that's not likely to happen. With a straight face.

I think his days of explaining are long over. He's just kicking back, and enjoying life. And I say-good for him. He has his legacy. He did his best. Now he has to live with his choices. And if he can sleep well at night, then I wouldn't hold it against him.
 
2007-03-09 01:28:38 AM
J3: Starr's successor could have brought perjury charges in a criminal court after Clinton left office. To avoid that Clinton made a plea arrangement to have any future charges dropped if he surrendered his law license for 5 years. People who plea usually do so because they know there is a good chance they will lose on the charges and want a lessor penalty.

Or to save time and money since Clinton wasn't going to be practicing law anyway (the speech circuit is much more profitable.)
 
2007-03-09 01:29:00 AM
There's a book out about how the media passes off crap as "news". Some of you hotly debating this non-news crap should read it.
 
J3
2007-03-09 01:29:06 AM
Once again, Memento memory, Clinton was acquitted of perjury

...by the Senate. He still faced criminal charges after he left office - which was why he agreed to relinquish his law license.
 
2007-03-09 01:29:06 AM
TofuTheAlmighty: Clinton did not commit perjury and accordingly was not removed from office by the Senate.

I think the senate thing had more to do with 80% of the population being completely pissed that it got that far in the first place.
 
2007-03-09 01:29:13 AM
Go the this page(p) for some fun dirt on your favorite politicians :p

Newt's just another two-bit hypocrite.
 
2007-03-09 01:29:20 AM
Republicans are going to cease to exist after 2008.

Democrats have a very deep bench.

/HA HA
//Valerie Plame is set to testify before Congress in a few days. I'm sure Cheney will try to have her murdered before then.
 
2007-03-09 01:29:42 AM
whidbey: Please. Someone tell me I'm not the only one who thinks Gingrich is a creepy bastard who shouldn't be President.

Don't worry. He won't be. And he's not as big of an asshole as you think. He only plays one on tv.
 
2007-03-09 01:30:27 AM
CaptainFatass: Because he is a dark-horse candidate for the 2008 presidential election.

But why? What the fark is Newt going to do for anyone? Why is Newt worthy of recognition?

What did Newt ever do, successfully, to earn that reputation?

Why is the media presenting Newt as a consideration? What is Newt going to do?
 
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