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(Daily Mail)   Police officer given Swiss Army knife as retirement gift from colleagues, who then arrest and charge him for "possessing a knife in public without good reason" when it's found in his luggage when he takes a vacation   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 120
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2007-03-08 10:37:45 PM
SpaceCowboy

You mean England?
 
2007-03-08 10:38:47 PM
Chirping_Cricket: If you have never had any formal training in knife fighting, then the only thing carrying a knife such as an S&W HRT or K-Bar accomplishes is giving your assailant a weapon. I'm sure that hefty piece of steel makes you feel like a man, but it's not going to protect you from any crimes. You'd be better off carrying a gun.

To play devil's advocate, a knife will scare off most unarmed assailants because they're going to assume you know how to use it.
 
2007-03-08 10:39:00 PM
fark me, implementor is right - the 'wave' knives have a curved bit that rotates the blade out instantly when you lift it up out of your pocket. the ones i mention above are button-release...

/has a benchmade emerson cqb-7, always
 
2007-03-08 10:39:13 PM
Faggy Brits are scared of the Swiss with their cheese and little knives with canopeners and tweezers.
 
2007-03-08 10:39:20 PM
Damn, I carry a Swiss Army knife with me in my back pack everywhere I go when I ride my motorcycle(s) along with what I believe are other necessary gear in case of emergency. Well, I'm in Oregon...so it's hardly gonna create an eye blink.
 
2007-03-08 10:40:29 PM
Chirping_Cricket

If you have never had any formal training in knife fighting, then the only thing carrying a knife such as an S&W HRT or K-Bar accomplishes is giving your assailant a weapon.

If the person has training, you aren't going to see the knife until its being pulled out of you anyway.

/guns for show
//knives for a pro
 
2007-03-08 10:40:31 PM
Chirping_Cricket: If you have never had any formal training in knife fighting, then the only thing carrying a knife such as an S&W HRT or K-Bar accomplishes is giving your assailant a weapon. I'm sure that hefty piece of steel makes you feel like a man, but it's not going to protect you from any crimes. You'd be better off carrying a gun.

The same could be said for the gun.
 
2007-03-08 10:41:09 PM
ReisFlynn

Don't bother introducing logic. I does not work with Farkers.
 
2007-03-08 10:41:10 PM
kayoteq

I stayed at the Stratosphere a couple months back. They still make you empty your pockets and pass through the metal detector to go up in the tower.
 
2007-03-08 10:42:00 PM
Cue Paul Hogan...

Now THAT'S a knife!

Been carrying a Swiss Army knife for 35 years - only time I pack it is when I get on a plane. Just too damn handy to leave behind.
Have Buck knives too and some swords (Scottish - There can be but one!)

Best near miss was in London, 35 years ago - bought a sword cane in an Indian shop. Hadn't gone 50 feet outside when a Bobby stops me and asks to examine the cane, fearing (what else?) a sword inside. He couldn't work the latch and had to let me go with it. Brought it home on the plane with me.

Life was easier when we weren't so stupid and scared shiatless by our own government!
 
2007-03-08 10:43:15 PM
i168.photobucket.com

all I need are "chucks"
 
2007-03-08 10:44:03 PM
TheGreenMonkey: One time I actually got threatened by some dude when I was sitting on the curb, waiting for a buddy of mine to finish chattin' up this girl, pulled out a (not so)little pocket knife I carried with me at the time, and told him to back off. Never saw any one run so fast.

I've carried a knife since 8 years old (Colorado).

That said, THIS IS A KNIFE

i30.photobucket.com
 
2007-03-08 10:45:08 PM
"possessing a knife in public without good reason"???

When it comes to carrying a knife, there is no reason that isn't a "good reason".

Perhaps the Brits need a law against passing laws "without a good reason".
 
2007-03-08 10:50:08 PM
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that's right, no metal.
 
2007-03-08 10:50:49 PM
TheHappyCanadian: I'm at ease with my small penis so I don't need to carry a weapon

Since when has a Swiss Army knife ever been considered a weapon? It's a utility tool, for opening tins and cutting line. If a person decided to take over a plane or attack someone with only a Super Tinker, their balls are big enough to worry about them even if they were armed with nothing.
 
2007-03-08 10:50:52 PM
TheGreenMonkey: One time I actually got threatened by some dude when I was sitting on the curb, waiting for a buddy of mine to finish chattin' up this girl, pulled out a (not so)little pocket knife I carried with me at the time, and told him to back off. Never saw any one run so fast.

That reminds me of this weird saying that acting crazy is the best defense possible. If ever in a similar position, I'd like to think I could pull it off.

/maybe whip out something else, know what I'm sayin'
//Santa Claus is dead!!!
///I killed him with this!!!
 
2007-03-08 10:55:06 PM
heinousjay: "one time, george washington threw a knife into heaven."

At band camp?
 
2007-03-08 10:56:09 PM
I carry a Swiss Army knife in my purse. I used to carry in my pocket all the time at my old job because it came in handy many times, such as needing to cut up cardboard or fix a jammed stapler. I worked in a sporting goods store, so almost everyone there carried either a knife or a Leatherman.
 
2007-03-08 10:57:01 PM
If someone is on your airplane with a knife, take a CD or DVD, snap it in half and give them a shave!
It's damn sharp.
 
2007-03-08 10:57:08 PM
Boop bee doop boop boop.
This just coming across the wire...
Other countries have laws different than the United States, frequently these laws reflect varying social values and perceived threats... more at 11.
 
2007-03-08 10:57:54 PM
Well, to be fair to the Brits, I'm pretty sure a swiss army knife in carry-on luggage here would get you in quite a bit of trouble, these days anyhow.
 
2007-03-08 10:59:57 PM
One of my relatives had his Swiss Army Knife confiscated by police. He had a (minor) medical emergency, the ER found it in his pocket change, and it was "seized." Hospital policy was to turn over all "weapons" to the city police department. I spent a half a day signing forms and driving to various corners of the city to get it back for him.

The almost ironic thing is that he was a US military officer working overseas doing anti-terrorism security work. He'd handled weapons and situations these nannyass pigs only wet-dreamed about.
 
2007-03-08 11:02:38 PM
Great Janitor: Let's face it, a sword, dagger, knife, gun are all weapons.

No, one of these things is not like the others.

A knife is a tool, first and foremost. One of the ways it can be used is as a weapon.
 
2007-03-08 11:03:05 PM
Plastic guns
Kevlar knives
Charged capacitor devices

Don't show up on Xrays.

With a little imagaination, anything can be a weapon.

Mentos and Diet Coke bazooka?
 
2007-03-08 11:03:09 PM
xtex

speaking of knives (i've been meaning to ask this)... one of you posted a website about these knives you can put in your pocket, and they 'auto-open' when you pull them out of your pocket. anyone remember where those are ? almost got mugged last weekend, it would have been handy to have..


You're thinking of Emerson knives. They can be opened using a "wave" feature, which is a small hook on the top of the blade.

Emerson knives are damn expensive, so shop around. 1SKS is a dependable seller, but pricy. There are quite a few Emerson knock-offs around, especially on ebay so keep an eye out.

Unfortunately Emersons use liner-locks, which I'm not too fond of. Be sure to mail the retailer and find out if they carry modern Emersons. The older Emerson models had even thinner liners, which were a pain.

Also, be sure check your state/county/city laws for knife restrictions. My town is very restrictive, and the blade length limit is 2.5 inches.

Finally, a lot of people find Emersons just too expensive to carry around with them. Spyderco offers two knife varients with waves on them: the Endura and Delica wave models. I suggest you go with a Spyderco and then move up to an Emerson. Spydercos are cheaper, have a better lock (imo), and have a much bigger wave so it catches easily. Emerson waves are a bit small and might not catch when you really need it. Spydercos are totally ambidextrous, and can have the clip placed in 4 different positions, so you can draw the knife in either hand, in normal or "ice-pick" grip. Emersons normally only have right-hand clips. Spyderco waved models have typical blades that are ground on both sides. Emersons use a V grind, which is kind of a pain to get sharpened at your local sports shop. However, Emerson knives are sturdier and heavier. The law looks down on Emerson knives; their appearance is meancing (tanto blade, black finish, military-style model names).

And like everyone says: if you plan on using this for defense, get something better or train all the time. Both companies offer training (dulled) models.

http://www.emersonknives.com/(p)

http://spyderco.com/(p)


http://www.onestopknifeshop.com/
(p)
 
2007-03-08 11:04:51 PM
I miss my Swiss Army knife...got ripped off. Had a good one, too. About 15 tools; enough to be useful, but not enough to increase the width to "knife dork" size. I'm thinking about getting a thumbdrive version, but only if it has decent tools as well.

Victorinox FTW!
 
2007-03-08 11:09:57 PM
Dellirium: With a little imagaination, anything can be a weapon.

Mentos and Diet Coke bazooka?


Hear that knock at the door? You'd probably better answer it.
 
2007-03-08 11:12:39 PM
KARMA

The old cop probably deserved it. Now he gets a taste of how it is for the rest of us.
 
2007-03-08 11:14:43 PM
I got a swiss army knife when I was 9. About 11 tools, two blades, saw, bottle opener, can opener, awl... etc. I'm 42 now, I still have it.

Plastic handles broke off when I was ~13, both knife tips broken off from "injudicious prying" and it's one of the most useful things I've ever owned.
 
2007-03-08 11:18:06 PM
CraicBaby...Here's the next best thing. A video clip of the scene. Enjoy.

Crocodile Dundee knife
 
2007-03-08 11:18:28 PM
Another example of zero tolerance at work.
 
2007-03-08 11:20:50 PM
REAP WHAT YOU SOW
 
2007-03-08 11:21:15 PM
TheHappyCanadian I'm at ease with my small penis so I don't need to carry a weapon

Somewhere out there, there's a porn movie called Cockadile Dundee which has the line "Penis? That's not a penis. Now, this is a penis!" (I haven't checked, but according to Pr0n Movie Quantum Theory, it must exist.)
 
2007-03-08 11:23:43 PM
firefly212: Other countries have laws different than the United States, frequently these laws reflect varying social values and perceived threats... more at 11.

Doesn't make those laws any less asinine.
 
2007-03-08 11:25:56 PM
Also, if ever you're in need of something temporary and sharp, get some cigarette filters.

Set on fire then push down on the end. It will go out but will harden into a sharp tip in seconds. It's good enough to cut an eyeball with.

Yay for having friends who spent time in prison.
 
2007-03-08 11:30:42 PM
In honor of your 20 years of service, we present to you this knife purchased for $3.00 + free shipping from Amazon.com.

(which is what I paid for a couple of these last December)
 
2007-03-08 11:32:38 PM
nih-: Also, if ever you're in need of something temporary and sharp, get some cigarette filters.

Set on fire then push down on the end. It will go out but will harden into a sharp tip in seconds. It's good enough to cut an eyeball with.

Yay for having friends who spent time in prison.


You'd be surprised what I've seen made into a weapon in prison. I remember one dude who got his liver lacerated with a piece of a television screen.

/good times
 
2007-03-08 11:38:08 PM
sunlion:

Awww, come on!
Get out of the Devonian period already!
 
2007-03-08 11:38:23 PM
image.guardian.co.uk

maybe he had this knife?
 
2007-03-08 11:39:58 PM
Damn it Skammich!

Makes me think of the dentist!
 
2007-03-09 12:02:54 AM
no one else noticed the mechanical horse advert?

/distracted
 
2007-03-09 12:11:48 AM
That'll learn 'em!
 
2007-03-09 12:12:24 AM
Jesus, I carry 3 on me at all times. My CRKT for general cutting, my Leatherman Supertool, and my Victorinox Swiss Army knife for when I need a screwdriver and a pair of pliers at the same time.

Carried the SAK all through high school. Used it in my physics class all the time as a replacement for the 50+ year old dull as a pat of butter "razor blades" in some of the experiments. Never got hassled. Teacher often borrowed it in class...
 
2007-03-09 12:35:27 AM
I always carry a leatherman supertool and a gerber multitool (needle and reg. pliers) on me, as I use them every day for work. Back before teh terr-o-ists failed their solo exam, I used to hand them to the security guard, walk through the medal detector, and have the guy hand them back to me, and go my happy way on down to the plane.

but the way things are now, it's just plain rediculous. When I deployed to Iraq, we got on a commercial carrier (charted) for the overseas flight. I carried my rifle with my, but I had to back my leatherman in my luggage, because I couldn't have it with me (wtf?). I hand the guy my rifle, go through the detector, get my rifle back, and then they stop me, because they found a set toe-nail clippers with that little half-inch blade in my carry on, and confiscated it. go figure
 
2007-03-09 12:51:17 AM
I've had a couple of swiss army knife keychains taken from me at airports before. I usually take them off my keys before travelling but twice in the last six years I've forgotten.

The funny thing is, I can't think of a worst thing to try to kill somebody in an airplane with than a little knife with a one inch blade. I'd wager I'd have an easier time harming somebody with the keys themselves, not with a knife with a tiny handle and a blade that folds in under pressure.

WTF? As my friend used to say:
if you can kill somebody with a swiss army knife keychain, you don't NEED a swiss army knife keychain to kill somebody.

The killer was the second time they took one from me, I also had a relatively thick metal pen sticking in my pocket. When they took the knife, I remember the pen as well and asked if that was OK. They said yes. I couldn't believe it, it was a much more dangerous weapon than even a box cutter, IMHO.

Honestly, the 9/11 hijackers got away with it becuase as I understand, they told others they had a bomb and would use it. If the passengers had known there was no bomb and all they had was boxcutters, those guys would have been shiatting blood for a month after surgeons finally managed to removed the blade from you-know-where.

/airport security has got to be the biggest waste of money this side of congress.
 
2007-03-09 12:51:45 AM
kb7rky: It bears repeating:

That youre an idiot, this wasnt even in this country.

A knife like that is nothing, couldnt harm a fly.
 
2007-03-09 12:51:57 AM
yeah, there should have been a /i somewhere in there.
 
2007-03-09 12:55:27 AM
Damn thats not even a pocket knife, more like one of those key chain doo hickeys. His co-workers mustn't have liked him very much if thats all he got. Either that or British cops are really cheap Bastids.
 
2007-03-09 12:58:32 AM
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2007-03-09 01:09:34 AM
Unimpressed:

www.pmmediareview.com
 
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