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(AZCentral)   Twenty-five percent of HDTV television owners are unaware they're not watching in HD, safe to assume they spent at least $500 on Monster cables   (azcentral.com) divider line 344
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2007-02-28 03:12:59 PM  
obvious
 
2007-02-28 03:13:00 PM  
This headline kicks so much ass.
 
2007-02-28 03:15:24 PM  
Contrary to the techno-elitist point of view, which apparently the submitter subscribes to, this is not their fault. The electronics companies, the media, the sales people, cable companies....everyone does a BAD job explaining HDTV to people. The new HDCP DRM system is only making it worse, too.

In my opinion it should be illegal to brand something as "HDTV ready" unless it has a freaking HDTV tuner built in. When "cable ready" TVs came out, all it meant was that it had the gizmo on the back for you to plug your cable line into, and you were done. "HDTV Ready" only indicates that the display is capable of viewing HDTV resolutions, not that your TV can actually tune an HDTV channel.
 
2007-02-28 03:19:18 PM  
These people probably also think sex with a condom "kicks ass"
 
2007-02-28 03:20:34 PM  
The only way to think you're watching HD when you're actually watching SD is to never have watched anything in HD, evar.
 
2007-02-28 03:27:02 PM  
B-b-b-but the connector is GOLD PLATED....
 
2007-02-28 03:34:26 PM  
Phlux also spent $500 on monster cables apparently. possibly even an extra $100 on a cable break-in service as well.
 
2007-02-28 03:37:38 PM  
I saw a woman in Radio Shack some months ago looking for cheap RCA cables, and the clerk told her "We only carry these brands now because they don't allow as much harmful interference which can damage the inside of your TV".

Inexpicably, RS had to close a whole mess of stores a few months later. Odd.
 
2007-02-28 03:38:56 PM  
25% ??

My experience has been more like 75%. It is very rare that I go to someones house who has an HDTV that is even close to configured correctly.

/whats this hdmi doohikey on my cable box? who the hell knows. I'll just use coax and tune to channel 3 like I have for the past 20 years. hey honey look at that great picture glad we spend so much for that TV!!!
 
2007-02-28 03:40:44 PM  
Also, I'm freaking sick of everyone calling flat panel TVs "flat screen TVs" as if they're one and the same, and you need to get off my lawn now.
 
2007-02-28 03:47:27 PM  
About 6 months ago I got a coworker of mine a kick ass deal on a 50" Sony XBR thru another friend of mine in the biz. After it was delivered, he called Cox Cable to hook him up w/ an HD box. Later that week he invited me out to see the TV.

I'm looking at the thing & am amazed at how crappy it looked. I ask him for the remote & realize the TV is on channel 3. I figure he accidentally put it there & switch the video input. Nothing. I pull the TV out of the cabinet & realize the dipshiat installer from Cox only hooked the damn box up to the coax antenna connection.

/Regardless of what the "experts" at Consumer Reports say, good cables do make a difference. Anyone that spends $2500 on a TV & uses that flimsy free cable that comes with your DVD player may as well just give the TV back. You don't need to spend $500 but don't be that much of a tightwad to use the free crap.
 
2007-02-28 04:12:45 PM  
BobtheFascist

The guy most likely thought that the picture was HD because, in all honesty, it was most likely better.

I have a VHF/UHF aerial connected up in the attic that I use to pull in local analog stations. On my GF's 26" NTSC Zenith, it looks like crap. Lots of snow on a few channels, blurry near the corners and that wonderful interlace flicker.

Same channel on my 32" HD tube looks 10x better. The built in noise reducer cancels out much of the snow, the flat tube reduces corner blur, and the NTSC to 480p line-doubler makes the picture rock solid.


/uses Radio Shack component cables
//only a third the price of Monster
///only had to shell out big bucks for the optical SPDIF audio cable
////yup, Monster :(
 
2007-02-28 04:43:00 PM  
Dinjiin

Agreed. Most people are accustomed to their old TV & the new set is usually a big upgrade, even w/o an HD signal.

Monster Cable has it's place. Not quite the same place it had though. I use a pretty high grade Monster S-Video (Z-series) on my LD & DVD. (Not using an HDTV yet) It really cleaned up a lot of the dot crawl issues I had using lesser quality cables. I worked in consumer electronics at the time so I had the luxury of being able to take a few cables home & try them out. The standard $20 cable didn't do much. With the new tech available for HD, you really don't need a $300 cable but a better cable still helps. I think of using cheap/free cables on a good TV the same as I would running 87 octane in a Lambo.

Audio, on the other hand, is a huge passion of mine. I've probably got more $$$ wrapped up in speaker cable than most people do in their first surround system. Yeah, I'm an audio snob.
 
2007-02-28 04:55:18 PM  
Monster Cables = Bose Speakers

/just fyi
 
2007-02-28 04:56:28 PM  
Say what you will about the people who buy them and the HD TV's themselves...

I love my HDTV, HD-DVD (xbox360), and HD-DVR.

Remarkable difference even with run of the mill component cables.
 
2007-02-28 04:56:31 PM  
Some people that have HD programming packages still don't realize they're watching SD content because their cable providers never told them that the channels were located elsewhere in the lineup.
 
2007-02-28 04:57:52 PM  
Meh. The worst thing going on now is the selling of EDTV as HDTVs. Of course they don't say HDTV, they say "flat panel" or "plasma" and let the buyer assume they're HDTV.

/1080p 42" awesomeness in my living room.
 
2007-02-28 04:58:37 PM  
With the new tech available for HD, you really don't need a $300 cable but a better cable still helps.

Anyone who pays extra for a name-brand DVI or HDMI cable deserves to be parted from his money.
 
2007-02-28 04:59:16 PM  
///only had to shell out big bucks for the optical SPDIF audio cable
////yup, Monster :(


Any cheap $4 cable can carry optical or digital with no loss at all. You either get the signal or you don't, theres very little in-between area.
 
2007-02-28 04:59:35 PM  
I will admit I am 1 of these people with an HDTV not watching in Hi-Def. I just can't make up my mind on providers. I hate the cable co. and I have direct TV but the up front costs of direct TV HD are annoying. So I watch SD TV for now. The DVD player is 480p and looks great tho.
 
2007-02-28 05:00:01 PM  
But, but, but...I bought the car already! You mean I have to fill it with gas too?!

FTFA:

And about one half of those viewers - about six million - don't even realize they're not watching HDTV.

In other news, at least six million Americans are flippin' retarded.
 
2007-02-28 05:00:24 PM  
Monster Cables are pretty well constructed for the most part, but cost way too much than it should be. The only Monster Cable sets I have are the ones for my gaming consoles, and that's because I found them on clearance at a local Sam Goody for about $10-15 each (I needed an Svideo set for each console, stupid companies never include an Svideo cable with their consoles).
 
2007-02-28 05:00:53 PM  
Until the HDTV package and DVR from DirecTV are cheaper and offer more, my HDTV ready TV will stay standard. It works just fine now anyways for the 10 hrs I watch a week.
 
2007-02-28 05:01:07 PM  
If you've EVER seen anything in HD, how can you look at an SD image and not notice a difference? I mean, its like night and day! Even on a shiatty tv.
 
2007-02-28 05:01:12 PM  
Even the cable people are behind the curve. I called Charter after I purchased my HDTV and you would have thought I was the first cable customer ever to switch to HDTV. Five of their reps made the magic switch "over the phone" by "sending a signal to my digital DVR/Cable Box" Four days and some 12 calls later, I finally got a supervisor who agreed to send a tech/ new HD DVR and cables out to hook me up. But even her first answer was to "send down a signal to my cable box..."

How hard is it to write a new page for their phone rep's book and fax it over to the Phillipines?

/just saying
}}HD slashies
 
2007-02-28 05:01:17 PM  
I run a hd signal through my non hd tv through the component input and it it more clear than regular cable. But it is a pretty good tv. Fatter cables are good. But at a point is becomes silly. There is no need for 12awg cable for audio. 16 or 18 will do in most cases unless you are running massive amperage.
 
2007-02-28 05:01:20 PM  
This headline rocks the shiat so hard, my standard, puny, girlie VGA cable is about to burn-up. I need to upgrayedd to a Monster Oxygen-Free 24K Gold-Plated Severe-Duty VGA cable.

/The two D's are for a "double-dose of pimpin"
 
2007-02-28 05:01:23 PM  
I got high def TV too. It came free with my glasses.
 
2007-02-28 05:01:31 PM  
When we first got our HD satelitte box the guy came in to set it all up for us, and then he turned it on and told us that channel x was the only channel that you could actually notice a difference on. He didn't seem to understand that it was the only channel (at that time) that was broadcasting 24 hours HD, and the rest of the HD stations weren't actually in HD in the middle of the day. And this was a guy who sold this kind of stuff.
 
2007-02-28 05:01:54 PM  
I dont get the headline...

/owns a 12year old picture tube tv
 
2007-02-28 05:02:03 PM  
i have digital channels which are't HD in a block of channels next to my HD channels. They are widescreen and look better than the regular versions. I can see someone mixing those up as HDTV.
 
2007-02-28 05:02:49 PM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes
 
2007-02-28 05:03:08 PM  
Dinjiin: /uses Radio Shack component cables
//only a third the price of Monster


Only a third???

I need about 50' cheap video composite cable for a projector.

I bought a 25' "audio" cable and a female/female connector. Pulled the two audio wires about and plugged them into each other. Cost about $10.

The monster video composite cable was like $50 and still was shorter.

And the ones I bought were even gold connectors.

Cables are a rip off. You are paying like a 400% premium on MAYBE a 1-2% improvement.
 
2007-02-28 05:03:29 PM  
I love the people using Monster digital cables. Because you know, without the diamond-shielding the digital signal picks up all sorts of ghosting
 
2007-02-28 05:03:36 PM  
2007-02-28 04:43:00 PM BobtheFascist [TotalFark]
Monster Cable has it's place. Not quite the same place it had though. I use a pretty high grade Monster S-Video (Z-series) on my LD & DVD. (Not using an HDTV yet)


So what you're saying is that even though you don't have an HDTV and obviously know nothing at all about digital transmission, you're in a unique situation to guarantee everyone that a better HDMI cable will result in a better picture?
 
2007-02-28 05:03:54 PM  
LessthanZero: The new travesty is calling a TV 1080p simply because it has the ability to convert a 1080p signal to its native format, while it is itself not capable of natively displaying 1080p.
 
2007-02-28 05:04:22 PM  
This thread made me take pause and again realize I've got no real HD source hooked up to my hdtv. The closest thing I've got is an upscaling DVD player, which still looks good enough for me. Still, I get a great signal on my Wii and my ps2. I can see every pixel and polygon.

Also, when buying optical cables for audio, get the cheapest you can find, they are all the same. I got mine for 5$
 
2007-02-28 05:04:58 PM  
If they didn't make watching HDTV such a pain in the ass to figure out in terms of cryptic acronyms, I'm sure everybody who had a HDTV would be watching in HD.
 
2007-02-28 05:05:02 PM  
Wait, are you telling me that the public, the same public that doesn't want to buy "those movies with the black bars at the top and bottom" don't know that much about HDTV?

/frustrated, but not surprised
 
2007-02-28 05:05:20 PM  
LUckily I was around when my parents installed their new DLP TV. I made sure they got the right cables, hooked it up for them, and now my father, a sports nut, has ESPNHD on quite a bit. Nothing like watching a football game in HD.
 
2007-02-28 05:06:15 PM  
I bought a Sony upconvertng DVD player which looks great on my HDTV, but can someone tell me why the HDMI cable was 75% of the price of the DVD player?
 
2007-02-28 05:07:16 PM  
dj245:

dont let the audiophiles hear that, they will rant on about how the farking powercord makes a difference... and why you should spend hundreds of dollars on a top of the line one.

and how your should degauss your cds...

those people are by far the most idiotic people you can meet.
 
2007-02-28 05:07:16 PM  
cablewholesale.com

Cablewholesale Premium 6' Component Cable: $17

Monster 4' Component Cable: $109

/no affiliation
//they just have good quality stuff for cheap
///save ur monies and buy on teh internet
 
2007-02-28 05:07:30 PM  
I'm at least aware I'm not watching HD quality TV.

Seeing as all of it sucks, I got my HDTV to go with my Xbox 360 and HD-DVD. Who needs channels?
 
2007-02-28 05:07:43 PM  
2007-02-28 05:06:15 PM steve_s

I bought a Sony upconvertng DVD player which looks great on my HDTV, but can someone tell me why the HDMI cable was 75% of the price of the DVD player?


Two reasons.

1) You bought from the wrong place. You could have bought the same cable online for 6 dollars. And I'll assume your DVD player wasn't 8 dollars.

2) Things are worth what someone is willing to pay for it. You obviously were willing to pay the money for the cable. Capitalism at work.
 
2007-02-28 05:08:10 PM  
In these types of threads I always try to post the best place to order inexpensive, quality cables:

http://www.monoprice.com
 
2007-02-28 05:09:21 PM  
C'mon, how stupid do you have to be to drop a grand on an HDTV and not do your homework first? Next thing, you'll tell me that people don't know the difference between progressive or interlaced signal, or what the numbers in "720" and "1080" mean. (It's the number of lines of pixels on the screen--the higher the number, the higher the resolution)

I own a 16:9 HDTV, and I have the HDTV package from Comcast.The idiot installer said "HDMI gives a worse picture than component cables" after I asked him why he wasn't using the HDMI input.



I got an HDMI cable and rehooked up the system myself. Now it looks beautiful.
 
2007-02-28 05:09:30 PM  
A lesson for those who don't understand why buying a $100 Monster HDMI cable is sheer idiocy: With a digital signal, the cable makes no difference.
 
2007-02-28 05:09:42 PM  
I saw a woman in Radio Shack some months ago looking for cheap RCA cables, and the clerk told her "We only carry these brands now because they don't allow as much harmful interference which can damage the inside of your TV".

Inexpicably, RS had to close a whole mess of stores a few months later. Odd.


Radio Shack.....You've got questions, we've got batteries.
 
2007-02-28 05:10:16 PM  
OK so here's my question O brilliant Farkers!

I have a 36" tube TV, Xbox 360 and DirecTV w/TiVo. What with the rapidly dropping prices on HDTV's, with the $800 range hopefully being reached later this year, the Wife has finally agreed to go for the upgrade (later this year). Said $800 range will probably be for the 720p HDTV which will probably be what we get. Question should I go go for the 720p that we can afford now, or continue waiting until the 1080p becomes affordable for us? It's not just the cost of the TV, although that is a major portion, it's the new DirecTV box, new 'Entertainment Center' and all the other assorted costs like shiny new Mega Premium Ultra Monster Monster Cables.
 
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