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(Contra Costa Times)   School attempts to motivate students to get higher scores on standardized tests by appealing to racial pride. This should end well   (contracostatimes.com) divider line 159
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2007-02-27 12:25:19 PM
Held at Mount Diablo HS, no less...
 
2007-02-27 03:29:56 PM
"Hispanic" is a broad linguistic/cultural group.

"Black"/"African American" is basically a range of skin colours and features that show some degree of African ancestry (which includes a huge number of very distantly-related population groups), quite often mixed in with other non-African populations.

"Race" is not a particularly useful way to categorize these folks - it's more like a shared cultural identity.
 
2007-02-27 03:49:40 PM
And the second the white kids show any pride in being white.. they get labeled racists... love the double standards!
 
2007-02-27 03:49:42 PM
The same shiat as always, better to quit keeping these kind of statistics altogether, in my opinion.
 
2007-02-27 03:50:17 PM
All races are allowed to have racial pride.

Except whitey.
 
2007-02-27 03:51:04 PM
Lets all go home and take a hot shower!

\ Hot Shower!
\\ Hot Shower!
 
2007-02-27 03:51:27 PM
Race is not an achievement. Race is being born with a certain set of alleles. No pride there. I'm sick of racial pride. Especially the White Pride movement...lynchings and ignorance are not ways to show how great white people are.
 
2007-02-27 03:52:38 PM
Xerxes99

And the second the white kids show any pride in being white.. they get labeled racists... love the double standards!

numberonenoob

All races are allowed to have racial pride.

Except whitey.


You make legitimate points, ones that aren't allowed in public... but still, I don't think the right way to answer bullshiat identity politics is with more bullshiat identity politics.

People are individuals and should be treated and think of themselves as such. I know that shocking statement would put the race industry in this country out of a job, but in the long run I think its acceptance would be positive for all people.
 
2007-02-27 03:52:52 PM
My money's on the Asian's!

/Hopes thats not too racist for you
 
2007-02-27 03:53:30 PM
numberonenoob: All races are allowed to have racial pride.

Except whitey.


I think it was probably because we got carried away with that whole "white power" thing.
 
2007-02-27 03:53:30 PM
ccinsider.comedycentral.com
Which assembly would he have gone to?
 
2007-02-27 03:53:35 PM
they need to bring in that Asian newpaper writer guy. He'll fix this mess.
 
2007-02-27 03:54:05 PM
dumb_n00b Race is not an achievement. Race is being born with a certain set of alleles. No pride there.

Spoken like a man with impure alleles.
/ALLELE POWER!
 
2007-02-27 03:54:06 PM
Sigh... no love for the Greeks...
 
2007-02-27 03:54:39 PM
numberonenoob: All races are allowed to have racial pride.

Except whitey.


You can be proud of your heritage, and be a white man.

The problem is, "white pride" has a whole slew of other connotations having far more to do with insecurity, hatred, and violence, than any kind of "pride". It's a terminology thing.
 
2007-02-27 03:54:47 PM
Actually, this is a great idea. High school kids respond to contests.

Right now, certain ethnic groups hold back their members by stigmatizing academic achievement as "too white". If they could be induced to support it instead for competitive reasons, great. Look, we have racial identity in many areas. Use it for good.
 
2007-02-27 03:54:57 PM
As long as it's separate but equal right?
/wait ...what?
 
2007-02-27 03:55:31 PM
I'm in ur schoolz!
i145.photobucket.com
Appealin' to ur racial pridez!
 
2007-02-27 03:55:32 PM

Oh, yes, appealing to racial pride is so much more effective at raising tests scores than


STUDYING!


/just sayin'

 
2007-02-27 03:56:00 PM
I for one am very proud of the achievements of the white race. I honor the memory of great white men and white women of the past who helped build up the white race. Of course we have the advantage that the Jews are considered white but this helps offset being dragged down by the Irish.
 
2007-02-27 03:56:35 PM
And we trust these people to educate our children????

As a group, teachers and educators at all levels are remarkably stupid.
 
2007-02-27 03:56:37 PM
i59.photobucket.com
/let's Godwin this thread!
 
2007-02-27 03:56:42 PM
Well, do you think I could print up a T-shirt that said: "I'm proud to be a young white college-educated male"?
 
2007-02-27 03:56:53 PM
No pride for sexual preference? whats UP with THAT?!?
 
2007-02-27 03:57:25 PM
What next? Test questions looking like quests in wow?
 
2007-02-27 03:57:26 PM
"Race" is not a particularly useful way to categorize these folks - it's more like a shared cultural identity.

I'll disagree with that.

"Race" IS useful... for ASSHAT race-baiters to capitalize upon the poor & weak so that they can promote themselves into a life of luxury.

/why are people complaining about White people being proud/White pride? Seems like America is all about "kill Whitey" and promoting pride in every other possible minority segment these days
//not a Whitey
 
2007-02-27 03:57:40 PM
To be fair, "black," "hispanic," and "white," aren't races either. Still, we're pretty okay with refering to cultural groups as races.

That aside, I've ceased caring about the arbitrary minutia of public schools. No matter what they do, someone will have a problem with it even if it improves test scores, lowers drop out rates, etc. In the end, any change will always result in a penalty to the students.

I'm all for a caring, diversified and tolerant school system, but maybe it's time schools are run as institutions of learning, rather than litigation.
 
2007-02-27 03:58:14 PM
Why can't they just divide them into teams not based on any ethnic or regional guidelines. Like they do in Harry Potter except they don't live together (can't believe I'm bringing that up).
 
2007-02-27 03:58:14 PM
To paraphrase Colbert, 'they're just realizing MLK dream in a very special way'
 
2007-02-27 03:59:07 PM
www.eyetide.com

/ Viva la Raza !
 
2007-02-27 03:59:22 PM
Where's the pride? Just because you look kinda like Thomas Edison, or at least your skin is about the same color, you can be proud of the invention of the telephone?
 
2007-02-27 03:59:44 PM
THE_WIZ: Of course we have the advantage that the Jews are considered white but this helps offset being dragged down by the Irish.


I'm just wondering, where is the "white" frontier in Eurasia? At what point, moving east or southeast, are indigenous populations no longer considered white?
 
2007-02-27 04:00:52 PM
Pride comes before a fall ... in grades.
 
2007-02-27 04:01:31 PM
if you have nothing to be more proud of than your "race", you are a loser.


/i'm an H-A (human-American)
 
2007-02-27 04:01:36 PM
Multiculturism. It don't work so quit telling us that.
Immigrants can come to North America and change the laws to suit themselves. ..I'm pointing my finger at you canaduh. If you wear a turban...No need for a helmet..The rest of you can pizz right off says the government department for racial equlity...

Women forced to wear burkas in North America.....It's fun too tell them ,they are not slaves in this country and can wear what ever they want and not be raped,abused,killed for that assumption...

/And yes. I do dislike every race with equal enthusiasim.
 
2007-02-27 04:02:07 PM
Hey whities, stop screwing around! You don't want some Asians kicking your butt.

Hey blackies, stop screwing around! Show the whites you can do better than them.

Hey Latinos, start working! The blacks are beating u guys.

Hey Asians, keep up the work or else you're gonna be over-run by the whites and the blacks!

sounds like it's working to me...
 
2007-02-27 04:02:15 PM
Adman12
I'm just wondering, where is the "white" frontier in Eurasia? At what point, moving east or southeast, are indigenous populations no longer considered white?

Right there about Turkey they start worshipping the wrong god.
 
2007-02-27 04:02:24 PM
dumb_n00b Where's the pride? Just because you look kinda like Thomas Edison, or at least your skin is about the same color, you can be proud of the invention of the telephone?

No, Edison was the first person to scale Mt. Everest.
 
2007-02-27 04:02:27 PM
let me tell ya'll what it's like
being male, middle class and white
it's a biatch, if you don't believe
listen up to my new cd
sham on

i got shiat running through my brain
so intense that i can't explain
all alone in my white boy pain
shake your booty while the band complains

i'm rocking the suburbs
just like michael jackson did
i'm rocking the suburbs
except that he was talented
i'm rocking the suburbs
i take the checks and face the facts
that some producer with computers
fixes all my shiatty tracks

i'm pissed off but i'm too polite
when people break in the mcdonalds line
mom and dad you made me so uptight
i'm gonna cuss on the mic tonight
i don't know how much i can take
girl give me something i can break

i'm rocking the suburbs
just like quiet riot did
i'm rocking the suburbs
except that they were talented
i'm rocking the suburbs
i take the checks and face the facts
that some producer with computers
fixes all my shiatty tracks

in a haze these days
i pull up to the stoplight
i can feel that something's not right
i can feel that someone's blasting me
with hate and bass
sending dirty vibes my way
cause my great great great great grandad
made someone's great great great great grandaddy slaves
it wasn't my idea
it wasn't my idea
it never was my idea
i just drove to the store
for some preparation h

ya'll don't know what it's like
being male, middle class and white
it gets me real pissed off and it makes me wanna say
it gets me real pissed off and it makes me wanna say
it gets me real pissed off and it makes me wanna say
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk

just like jon bon jovi did
i'm rocking the suburbs
except that he was talented
i'm rocking the suburbs
i take the checks and face the facts
that some producer with computers
fixes all my shiatty tracks these days
i'm rocking the suburbs

/God Bless Ben Folds
 
2007-02-27 04:02:49 PM
Kill Whitey!

upload.wikimedia.org

/I miss that dude
 
2007-02-27 04:04:26 PM
But we worked so hard to be white in the first place...now we're not supposed to be proud?
 
2007-02-27 04:04:48 PM
I'm actually an Irish Jew and I really got a kick out The Wiz's post.

/Not really Jewish
//Or Irish
/// Just Canadian
//// I'll get my coat
 
Ant
2007-02-27 04:05:13 PM
dumb_n00b: Race is not an achievement. Race is being born with a certain set of alleles. No pride there. I'm sick of racial pride.

Completely agree.

"Ooooh congratulations! You've been born into a white/black/hispanic/asian/other family. Good job!"
 
2007-02-27 04:06:28 PM
Adman12: THE_WIZ: Of course we have the advantage that the Jews are considered white but this helps offset being dragged down by the Irish.

I'm just wondering, where is the "white" frontier in Eurasia? At what point, moving east or southeast, are indigenous populations no longer considered white?


Strictly speaking, the wogs begin at Calais, but for purposes of dividing up Americans into races, I would draw the line somewhere around Tiger Woods and Halle Berry.
 
2007-02-27 04:06:32 PM
I can imagine the drive bys to get rid of their academic rivals.

/you cant do well on a test if your dead!
 
2007-02-27 04:06:39 PM
j__z: To paraphrase Colbert, 'they're just realizing MLK dream in a very special way'

Yeah, that woman he interviewed pretty much got pwned, it was embarrassing to watch.
 
2007-02-27 04:06:48 PM
As a Translucent-American, I make fun of those with opaque skins.

/Once, after a lot of sun, I was practically white.
 
2007-02-27 04:06:55 PM
WCHeadhunter

And we trust these people to educate our children????

As a group, teachers and educators at all levels are remarkably stupid.


Administrator =/= teacher or educator (and sometimes they never have been, though most were at one point).

People who generalize an entire profession based on the actions of a few are remarkably stupid. You should be asking yourself why that principal makes literally 250-300 thousand dollars a year while the teachers who actually work with the students get between 30-50, for the most part.
 
Ant
2007-02-27 04:06:56 PM
BXRWXR: I think it was probably because we got carried away with that whole "white power" thing.

Who is this "we" you're talking about?
 
2007-02-27 04:06:57 PM
Why use race to motivate students when all you have to do is bite the head off of a baby bird?
 
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