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It's bullshiat. With DWDM that any large carrier uses, you can carry up to 64 OC-192's over a single pair of fiber (heard 96 is possible with a few). Many carriers only have a few of the channels light up because they are too cheap to fill in the extra capacity. Even if you filled the 64 channels on one pair, there are always plently of other pairs in the cable that could also be used.

The tubes have plenty of room if they only hooked them up.

Tipping Point. Tipping Point. Tipping Point. Fire when ready.

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In 1995 Bob Metcalfe, inventor of Ethernet, said the Internet would suffer a "catastrophic collapse," and promised to eat his words if it failed to happen.

In 1997, he ate his words.

Killerclaw: if it were busting at the seems it would lag like shiat, my XBL, my DL's, everything, still moves fast.

Scale-free networks do not always degrade gracefully. :-) In other words, if it ever does happen, everything might seem fine one day and... not so fine the next. It's possible there would be very little warning.

/EVERYBODY PANIC

If bandwidth is truly becoming scarce, providers should start charging people based on the amount of bandwidth they use.

Its rationing by price, and its how the market economy deals with scarcity.

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This is telco bs, where does my $50/month go? They should have to grow their infrastructure like everyone else. AT&T made $1.5 bil in profit for 1st Q of 2006, Comcast made $2.5 in profit in 2006. These guys just don't want to maintain the infrastructure they want control of.

I skimmed the article, looking to see if it would reveal its hand as operating as a shill for telecom to destroy Net Neutrality. Yup, bingo. That's all it is. Stupid reporter probably just picked the story up off the fax machine and slapped his name on it.

but did you notice, the article didnt stop them from hotlinking to a video of the weather report, bottom right

with a sentence like this, you know who the article is written for:

It's an admonition many dismiss as political posturing intended to dissuade lawmakers from restricting the freedom of phone companies to manage Internet traffic as they wish.

restricting the freedom of phone companies to manage traffic as they wish?? freedom??? ha.

damn you Fool_Marquis!!!

fatty.jpg is clogging th tubes.

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So what they're saying is no one is still manufacturing new fiber cables?

utter nonsense.

Gee, that's rough. maybe they need some kind of file-sharing program that would divide the transmission load among users, to avoid overwhelming Torrents of Bits.
I'm sure someone will come up with a solution eventually..

FTFA: Those amusing YouTube video clips that Internet users send to friends gobble up large chunks of bandwidth and may cause the Net to crash, some elements of the telecom industry warn.

No need to read past here. Jon Van and the telecom industry can diaf

It's ok. My father in law is a captain of the internet industry. He has promised me that a truck full of internets is on its way to my door.

/married daughter of rich internet industrialist

icecelt: So you're all declaring bullshiat because of net neutrality.

There's more dark fiber than there is fiber in use. To wit, there's more available bandwith than there is bandwith being used.

I have a plan, we reduce the number of total websites to around 80, or maybe 150 for "expanded basic" subscribers. Then the rest of the websites owned by Times-Warner and Disney can go under "pay per view."

Problem solved.

Nietzsche the Bunny:
2007-02-25 01:45:08 PM Nietzsche the Bunny [TotalFark]

In 1995 Bob Metcalfe, inventor of Ethernet, said the Internet would suffer a "catastrophic collapse," and promised to eat his words if it failed to happen.

I wouldn't dismiss AOL as not being a symptom of a "catastrophic collapse" because AOL brought a lot of morons online and the Internet is still suffering from the resulting brain drain of millions of idiots who think their computers are mere "toasters with keyboards".

google wouldn't have bought youtube if it didn't have the storage. i rember reading an article a few years ago about google placing these shipping container sized hardrive/storage boxes all around the world, at that time they had placed "several thousand" but did not want to give up to much info. Keep in mind that was a few years ago, imagine the infrastructure they have now

I'll get someone on my staff to send me an internet, and then I will let everyone know when I receive it.

If people would download their bizzare sex videos instead of streaming them over and over again it would free up a lot of bandwidth.

/it would have no effect on kitten mortality

Follow up article: "MPAA kingpin corpses still not found, Internet better than ever"

Even if it was a problem (and it isn't), the answer is to just have the major backbones enable multicast.

/Or get Al Gore to unclog teh tubes

All of the above, all of the below: Bullshiat

"Those amusing YouTube video clips that Internet users send to friends gobble up large chunks of bandwidth and may cause the Net to crash, some elements of the telecom industry warn."

Translation: Oh fark, people are actually using the services we promised them.

Tipping Point. TIPPING POINT. TIPPING POINT tipping point.

"I'm gonna pistol whip the next one of you that says Shenanigans!"

icecelt: So you're all declaring bullshiat because of net neutrality.

Didn't you hear the author??

But no one disagrees that the Web's capacity is being pushed to its limits.

All the advancing technology we have can not save teh tubes!!1!

i believe it.

See if you can click this link 10 times in under 10 seconds.

Random youtube bandwidth

Don't blame me, I don't watch internet videos. My laptop gets 70 megs per gallon.

I'm an intertubing engineer, so I'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies. My company (generic, well known broadband provider) peers privately with hundreds of large data providers such as Yahoo, Microsoft (windows updates anyone?), Google, AOL, other broadband providers, etc. For anyone we don't peer with, we have to pay another provider such as Worldcom or AT&T to get our traffic to them. In an effort to reduce the higher cost of using that last choice provider, we're constantly setting up new peering connections, er, "intertubes" with other networks. As a result, we (and other companies like us) have hundreds of half-full tubes rather than one giant overstuffed tube. It's actually more cost effective for us to set up these new tubes than pay another company for one giant tube to the intarweb.

Basically: The intarweb has more tubes than ever, less saturated than ever. The story is a crock of shiat. Now if you want to talk about limiting factors on the subscriber side, that's a different story. Not too many people in America are going to see 50Mbps connections like they have in Asia very soon. Any clogging of the intertubes is going to be within a few miles of your own house.

Better get a plunger.

redalert666

Yay! First simulpost

Why do people believe that once we reach the capacity then the net will no longer work? When it gets annoying to download on YouTube, people won't do it anymore, and the usage will stabilize.

"Those amusing YouTube video clips that Internet users send to friends gobble up large chunks of bandwidth and may cause the Net to crash, some elements of the telecom industry warn."

The problem here is obviously with these "elements": Rogue elements, communist elements, radioactive elements, subversive elements... We must track down and remove these elements of society!

SirFire:
See if you can click this link 10 times in under 10 seconds.
Random youtube bandwidth

Yep. Any other challenges for me?

the internet is not a dumptruck.

anyone happen to catch cisco's q4 06' results? they were pretty stoked about the rise of video popularity on the internet considering ISP's are needing to upgrade their infrastructure.

it happens.

as bandwidth grows, people find out they can do more stuff online. no big shock.

just like when broadband became more available and people upgraded from dialup. There was a large need for infrastructure upgrades. look at company's like Verizon who's providing fiber to your house with their FIOS service, 15mbps down, 5mpbs up for $39/mo? that's like jebus, the lord's own son, is delivering me porn one packet at a time, and it has been sanitized so i know there is no spyware burried in the depths of the windows media file!

wait, what was my point?

oh... right... yeah, internet bandwidth needs grow.

going back to watching porn now.

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