Either died or in jail for non-related offenses.

Bonus tidbit: the 3 times Ted Bundy was nabbed, they were all traffic offenses.

I remember growing up in the Bay Area, we had the Zodiac Killer, the Patty Hearst kidnapping, and the persecution of the Black Panthers.

Good Times...

karendotcom: persecution of the Black Panthers

You really want to go with persecution? Didn't they do some stuff that warranted at least some of their harassment by the police, such as killing a couple of cops (some of whom were black) in a few cities and walking around heavily armed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

rocinante721

Bonus tidbit: the 3 times Ted Bundy was nabbed, they were all traffic offenses.

I remember my Mom telling me horror stories about before they caught Bundy. I think it's kind of funny that I ended up spending me teenage years living next to the Green River, and biking/roller blading along the pedestrian trail down there.

Serial killer fears add a special spice to a childhood that you just can't get with regular whackos.

/honestly, Bundy scares the bejeesus out of me, even if he is dead now
//will probably see the movie with the bf

They oughta announce zodiac is being given a star on the walk of fame and nab him/her when he/she shows up

zerkalo

They could tell him he won $500 in a drawing, and that he could pick it up at the local police department.

It's worked before.

I blame the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. Um, and Bush.

Like we need any more Zodiac movies. They're getting to be like the Christopher Columbus movies of the early 90's.

I still live in Vallejo, and the whole story (as karendotcom could attest to) permeates through the local culture. You can crack a comment about "by knife, by fire, by gun, by rope" or "slaves in the afterlife and feeding them salted pork" and everybody instantly knows what you're talking about. It's creepy, but at the same time it's insanely fascinating... like looking at betty lou jensen's grave.

A band from the SF Bay Area was also called the Zodiac Killers [ruba1.com].

Looks like somebody owes me royalties.

memory doesn't serve too well

The rabbit was drivin by author R Graysmith during his investigation during the 80'S

check out what he seems to be famous for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_Killer

shift_DAWG

I suppose they should have said "attention to details that farking matter"?

I remember when Zodiac was getting his freak on when I was a kid. Although my family lived in Long Beach, we were scared shiatless.
As for Bundy, my brother worked with him on the suicide hotline in San Diego. They were friends.

The website is called kutv, kut means vagina in dutch.

Creepy movie, very well done though it veers into Close Encounters of The Serial Killer Kind in the last third

You Bay Area people left out the Zebra Murders but I know those aren't p.c.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders

east bay's cheerleader killers though...
http://www.geocities.com/traciy2000/kirsten_costas.html?1008971597590

Crime Library (pops)

should be decent, if you've read the books my best bet is Bob Starr aka arthur lee allen.

Coelacanth

As for Bundy, my brother worked with him on the suicide hotline in San Diego. They were friends.

Seattle, not San Diego. He worked on the suicide hotline in Seattle.

Zodiac and DB Cooper, two unsolved cases that have become almost folklore. Both possibly dead by now, though they could still be alive. And Zodiac could be right under everyone's nose. Sometimes the hardest people to catch are the obvious ones. And my armchair gut feeling hunch is the Zodiac was a military crypto-analyst. Would explain the knowledge of codes.

Don't forget how long the BTK killer hid himself.

two times in one month. who'da thunk it?

Anybody else watch "America's Most Wanted" last night? The entire show was about the Zodiac and the movie was mentioned and plugged several times. What I wanna know is- Did Sumner Redstone catch Rupert Murdoch with a tranny prostitute or what?

EBEORIETEMETHHPITI

Wut? LOL!

Well if your in the theater and someone starts shouting "Bullshiat! Thats not how I did it!", theres your chance to be a hero.

I did watch America's Most Wanted last night. It was like a big advertisement for the movie. I figured that the movie was a 20th Century Fox production...then got on Fark this morning and find out it's a Paramount production. Weird.

/Here's a horoscope for everyone:
Aquarius: You're gonna die
Capricorn: You're gonna die
Gemini: You're gonna die TWICE
Leo: You're gonna die
Scorpio: You're gonna die FARKIN'!

viral marketing?

All I want to know is how he keeps getting my horoscope so wrong.

And I kid you not, one day I read my horoscope and it said stay away from all power sources and/or power lines. It was pretty emphatic about it. Strangest prediction ever.

/Stayed away, so we'll never know...
//Taurus FTW!!

Huh sounds like Hollywood is running out of ideas. Wonder how long it will be before they make a movie about the Oklahoma City bombings...

It always makes me wonder how many killers are out there.

I truly believe the number to be vastly, vastly higher than anything most people would typically believe. Almost everytime I read about serial killers, I notice that often times, they really aren't that bright. I mean, some are of average intelligence but aside from a notable few (and I'm being giving here) there weren't any really /smart/ killers.

Thus it leads me to believe quite simply that the very intelligent killers simply get away with it way more often than people want to give credit for. Zodiac killer sounds like a fairly intelligent guy. He slipped up and got noticed at some point but he was at least smart enough to never be caught (to this date anyway).

/killing doesn't take intelligence, not getting caught does.
//guilt probably gives most people away be it conscious or sub.

Hey! Let's release a major film about a killer who craves media attention! What could possibly go wrong?

Avatar is still out there...

/obscure?

Setiri: I truly believe the number to be vastly, vastly higher than anything most people would typically believe.

Well, the US is sending its soldiers all over the place.


ZING

Setiri

I don't agree with your line of thought. Real serial killers are usually too compulsive and too risk-prone to last for all that long.

Also even if they don't get identified at least their crimes get identified as serial killings. It's extremely hard to make an extended series of serial murders look patternless, and anyway the killers would almost never want to do that. They usually want their killings to be acknowledged... it's an ego thing.

I do think in some situations serial killers stand a much better chance of going undetected. One is serial killers at war (I know there were psychopaths during the Vietnam war who deliberately murderer civilians under the 'fog of war'.

Another situation is wealthy people in third world countries. One case I recall is this guy in India (or maybe Pakistan) who raped and killed some ridiculous number of boys over the years... like 50 or something.

I was stationed at Mare Island for 3 years when I was in the Navy. Used to go to Pt. Reyes and Lake Berryessa all the time, sometimes just me and gf. Never heard about the Zodiac killer until after I moved away. Totally freaked me out, b/c we were in some of the exact places as his victims.

/still creeped out

I really couldn't care less about the subject matter. I'm just excited that a new David Fincher movie is coming out; it's been FAR too long. Though Panic Room was kind of lame.

/the 30 Seconds to Mars guy is in my house omg panic

My mom told me once that she thought the Zodiac killer could have been my dad. Pretty much because both wore glasses.

raccoon2k: Avatar is still out there...

I remember that show and miss it.