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(Some Guy)   1 in 5 teens don't know whom US declared independence from.   (dailypress.com) divider line 142
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2001-07-03 08:40:06 AM  
It wasn't France
 
2001-07-03 08:44:54 AM  
I'm surprised it wasn't a higher percentage.
 
2001-07-03 08:48:46 AM  
damn you mungo .. you beat me to it .. :-))
 
2001-07-03 08:53:30 AM  
"Nearly a quarter didn't know who fought in the Civil War, and nearly a third didn't know who wrote America's national anthem, the "Star Spangled Banner."

Now, you have to be certifiably stupid if you didn't know who fought in the Civil War. But, c'mon..."Who wrote the 'Star Spangled Banner'"? I knew the answer, but I bet there's a lot folks out there who didn't. Next thing you know, they'll be asking the name of all the women JFK farked...
 
2001-07-03 08:54:00 AM  
Actually, that is pretty sad,
I got all the questions right
and haven't ever been to America.

do I win a prize ?
 
2001-07-03 08:57:20 AM  
It is really sad that the youth in this country have no real idea how and why we exist. It seems people would gladly give up thier freedoms just to recieve a free air conditioner.
 
2001-07-03 08:57:35 AM  
We have those two crapheads Bigpeeler and Buttsteak to thank for these numbers. They ought to feel proud that they can spend drunken hours flaming each other over the Net while their students suffer. Nice goin', turkeys!

As I suggested, PLEASE RESIGN! Get a job at Kmart or Best Buy. You two morons are a disgrace!
 
2001-07-03 09:07:37 AM  
yeah...but 1 in 5 teens nowadays know how to break into your farking computer system, change the questions to the test, and retake it and pass...screw williamsburg...
 
2001-07-03 09:09:31 AM  
I have a friend who teaches high school history. Not making this up...the highest grade in his class one year, was a Danish exchange student, who aced his general knowledge test he gives the first day of class. One of the responses from one of the goobs in his class, stated that General Motors was on Patton's staff during WW II. I am not making this stuff up.
 
2001-07-03 09:13:48 AM  
These kids today are stupid as hell....at my old high school, a friend told me that a kid was laughing at a WWII vet who was crying when he was talking about the war and his friends that died in front of him...i wish i was there to hit that kid. I blame this on that crap music like rap and limp biscut and all the bands like them.
 
2001-07-03 09:28:14 AM  
In my 8th grade US history class a kid started complaining
"who is this pearl harbor person I keep hearing about? Are they going to be on the test?"

Thanks god todays kids can go to the movie theaters and learn about Peral Harbor in an enlightening, even-handed and straight-shooting epic delivered from hollywood.
Ahh, hollywood. Their commitment to veraciousness brings tears to my eyes.
 
2001-07-03 09:46:27 AM  
Personally Sparticus while I agree with you about gangsta rap and Limp Bizkit (sp?), I think there is a far more dire puppet master behind the curtains of America's brain dead youth.

Yes.

It is truly the Dark Lord of Hell...Carson Daley
 
2001-07-03 09:48:41 AM  
"Veraciousness"? Is that anything like veracity?
 
2001-07-03 09:57:01 AM  
I'm Canadian. Save your applause. I don't know much about history. I do know that everyone of you is saying to respect the war dead though. That might be all there really is to know. Lograin: put it best when he said it is really sad that the youth in this country have no real idea how and why we exist. I think that applies to Canadians too. History is Boring! Teacher's don't make it interesting either. I suppose they are fuzzy on the whole thing too. When your flags half way up keep going!
 
2001-07-03 10:00:04 AM  
I dont know who wrote the star spangled banner
But then I am english, so I dont give a toss really
 
2001-07-03 10:05:49 AM  
If the answers are not in Dr. Mario or Quake, these kids don't stand a chance.
 
2001-07-03 10:08:26 AM  
hey, all i know is that the germans invaded pearl harbor, that independence is december 7 and that d-day happened on july 4, 1776 at Bull Run - wich I happen to know is in Pamplona, Spain.

fark, and you guys thought i didn't know nothin..
 
2001-07-03 10:08:38 AM  
Docwra: Francis Scott Key wrote the star spangled banner. The funny thing is- the tune he wrote it to was an English drinking song.
 
2001-07-03 10:23:31 AM  
Can I please get my Super Value Meal done RIGHT the next time I come to your window???
 
2001-07-03 10:25:58 AM  
At least we declared independance and don't still follow around a crown that watches us from across the ocean. Canada i'm looking in your direction...
 
2001-07-03 10:27:33 AM  
hell, if the children are our future, we're up shiat creek.
 
2001-07-03 10:28:22 AM  
And for bonus credit can any US teen tell which ocean Hagbard23 is referring to?
 
2001-07-03 10:30:02 AM  
buttsteak....it looks like that is where these kids are going to work for the rest of their lives. they just dont care anymore and they wonder why it happened to them.
 
2001-07-03 10:30:14 AM  
F.uckingLoser
yeah...but 1 in 5 teens nowadays know how to break into your farking computer system, change the questions to the test, and retake it and pass...
I don't think those are not the same kids, though. The 1 in 5 who don't know who we declared independence from are the ones whose hobbies do not include computers. They tend to be the ones who (at least in my town) hang around smoking in parking lots in their trucks. They are the same people who would ask "which one is the 'any key'?"
 
2001-07-03 10:31:59 AM  
And another thing England you're alright...but give us your Monty Python, Rowin Atkinson, Red Dwarf, Ab Fab, The Who and Rolling Stones. But keep everything else over on your shores, If we get one more Oasis or ColdPlay over here you guys are gonna have to rely on the French to bail your asses out of the next pickle you get into over there.
 
2001-07-03 10:33:15 AM  
Yeah, but Canadians get all their Worship the Queen holidays. Helps pass the time in the igloo.
 
2001-07-03 10:43:29 AM  
Well Hagbard, you can keep your britney spears, knight rider, whitney housten, backstreet boys, new kids, beverly hills 90210, mcgyver etc. etc.

Is it worth worrying about crap music and tv from other countries ?? no ..
 
2001-07-03 10:46:59 AM  
How can you possibly put inane retards like Britney, Whitney, and the Backstreet Boys in the same sentence as the lord of improvisation, McGyver?
 
2001-07-03 10:47:32 AM  
Disney makes the best history.
 
2001-07-03 10:54:14 AM  
I got all of these right. I'm Canadian. I'm 18.
This either means that I'm smart, or that American teens are incredibly stupid.
 
2001-07-03 10:55:15 AM  
Over!!! Who said its over!!! Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?!!!

-John Blutarski, American Icon
 
2001-07-03 10:56:30 AM  
Oxidus: touche...but Oasis is worse
 
2001-07-03 11:04:23 AM  
Actualy the real problem is education. History used to be based first on teaching facts, then teaching (late in High School and in college) how to interperet those facts. Now too much time is spent teaching the meaning of history (based on the leberal leaning of the majority of teachers).

For example, teaching that the US Civil War was fought to free the slaves. While thats a nice piece of revisionist history its not a fact. In fact, the Civil War was fought over the rights of states to determine the laws within their own borders and over whether the US Constitution should be interpreted strictly or loosely. Freeing slaves was a result of the war.

Then there is the fact that the US was founded by Slave owning white men. That makes any teaching of US history a bad thing since most of the history would focus on the achievements of theses men.
 
2001-07-03 11:05:41 AM  
mel gibson makes the best history.
 
2001-07-03 11:15:40 AM  
Funny they don't teach things like:

- The "War" of independence was won by the "Americans" because Britian needed it's troops somewhere else and decided to pull back and not sqwash those colonies. All that was over tax, and the fact that colonies where treated like hoars - most kids only learn the date.

- The "War" of 1812, America tried to invade Canada. Not only did we fight them all off, but we retaliated and burned down the white house! Whih was not the white house until they had to paint it, because of the burn marks! Since then they have bleached the stone!

- The Vietnam "War" was a failed police action - where the US got to act in 1969 to 1975 like Britian did once, and you an see that polie actions don't work! I think you also gave up there or where driven out, something like that right?

Anyway, there are a lot of Good things in America, like 24hours Walmarts and other cool things. The problem is North America is a comsummer society - it is just part of Canadian consumerism is to laugh at America!

Thank-you for your time!
 
2001-07-03 11:17:40 AM  
...be real interesting to see results in a larger demographic sampling. I suspect it isn't just teens; this "dumbing down" has been going on for some time now.
 
2001-07-03 11:23:05 AM  
Bycustin, what kind of goddamned redneck are you? I hope that Wal-Mart remark wasn't serious, or you are one fucked up fellow.
 
2001-07-03 11:23:45 AM  
Who wrote the Star Spangled Banner?


This is American history? Seriously, out of all those questions this one sticks out like a sore thumb. To add insult to injury its not a very good song either.
 
2001-07-03 11:33:24 AM  
Bycustin1:
War of 1812: You forgot to mention that the Americans burned York. You also forgot to mention that the whole war was basically a stalemate. Americans didn't capture anything and the Brits failed in capturing New Orleans and Baltimore.
 
2001-07-03 11:37:54 AM  
"Nearly all students surveyed knew that Washington, D.C., is the U.S. capital and that George W. Bush is the president."

Wow, nearly all. Anyone that missed one of these 2 should be sent to France.
 
2001-07-03 11:40:20 AM  
Aaah, but the British have kicked the Frenchies arses on more than one occasion
When have the americans ever done anything of that calibre??
 
2001-07-03 11:41:33 AM  
They had an answer key!!! Sweet Lord.
Most kids are stupid today because they are allowed to "pass" on to the next grade with pitiful grades of D's. In fact, thanks to the increasing liberalization of EVERYTHING in this country, anything that might remotely "hurt their self esteem" is banged up in a dungeon somewhere. So instead of holding kids back a year to get their act straight, they push them forward making them feel even more hopelessly lost.
And hands-on learning is hardly the key to anything. Sure, the occasional feild trip is fun and can be very enlightening, but good old dry memorization of facts works wonders.
Grrrr.
 
2001-07-03 11:42:42 AM  
Where was Color Me Bad from? Were they Americans?
 
2001-07-03 11:43:51 AM  
The public education system perpetuates its own ineptness. My ex is a teacher. She teaches history. The only formal education that she had in this area was what she learned in high school. She wanted to be a math teacher and she focused all of her college courses toward that goal. Unfortunately, there weren't any openings in our school district for math teachers. When she was given her class assignment there was no consideration as to her ability to teach the subject. They had a classroom that needed a teacher. She had a degree. She got the job.

As I helped her prepare for her first year of teaching, I realized that she didn't have a clue. She learned more history from reading the text book that she was supposed to use in the classroom than she remembered from school.

I feel for the kids she teaches. She'll be one of those teachers that prepares a bunch of overheads and then uses them over and over again year after year so that she doesn't actually have to put any effort into it. But, then again, at $29,000 per year, why should she feel the need to put effort into it? Afterall, they aren't her children.
 
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2001-07-03 11:46:18 AM  
Groucho2: I don't know anything about the two guys you mentioned, whom I assume are teachers, but to blame them is a common mistake. While there are certainly teachers who suck, blaming teachers for today's mess is wrong. It's a complex problem but at the root of it are PARENTS. If you guys want to do something about this, make a commitmewnt to your kids' education and don't expect the schools to be your surrogates. Schools are constantly asked to do more and more and are at the point where they're raising your kids! Every politican and activist that comes along wants to get to kids early through the schools.

Madpiper: Key didn't set the anther to a drinking song. That was done later. Key merely wrote a poem.

Bycustin: What the hell are you talking about? The Brits attacked us in 1812.

Eaton: umm, hate to point this out in public, but you did mean veracity, not veraciousness, didn't you?

Speeddialer: "Teacher's don't make it interesting either." That is the exact freakin attitude that is largely to blame for this mess. Teachers are supposed to teach, not entertain. You ask any professor or teacher and he/she will likely say the same thing - "kids today just want to be entertained". I'm probably older than the average farker, but when Iwent to school (70's), it was NOT entertaining. Sure there were some teachers who could throw a twist on things now and then, but to EXPECT that is absurd. A typical teacher today sees 180 - 200 students each and every day. The teacher is supposed to entertain ALL of them?!

The problem is a lack of basic skills testing. There's a lot of smoke getting blown up our arses about this, but nobody is really taking it seriously. NOBODY should get a high school diploma without passing a test that includes all main areas of education. History, math, science, reading.

And while I'm on my soapbox.... Why are we spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year teaching retarded kids how to tie their shoes when we could be preparing the next Einstein or Salk to tackle the problems of the future? Because of political correctness and an over-liberal attitude, we put a huge portion of our resources into the wrong area. Some kids will never need to learn anything but "Do you want fries with that?" because they are intellectually limited. Let's spend our efforts on teaching the top 10% to be the best they can instead of the bottom 10%.

Alright, I'm done.
 
2001-07-03 11:46:36 AM  
Hagbard23
you are indeed correct :-))
 
2001-07-03 11:48:41 AM  
I did pretty well on that one..I got them all right..

did France surrender yet?

Hi MaxLoad!
 
2001-07-03 11:56:25 AM  
Sparticus: I agree with you on the whole I wish I were there to hit that kid...but blaming the kids attitude on the music he listens to I have to disagree. The music, the media, the tv, movies, etc...these are not the things to blame. The people to blame are the parents of these children.

I say this because I like listening to Limp Bizkit, Korn, Metallica, Eminem, Dr. Dre, etc. I find a lot of humor in some of the music. But I'm sorry I couldn't even try to laugh at a Veteran who was crying over his buds he lost during the war.

Reason being is because my parents brought me up some values, morals, and for the most part just how to be g-d damned courteous to others. Which I must say todays teens are some of the rudest motherfarkers out there.

Ok I am done babeling now
 
2001-07-03 11:57:24 AM  
Looks like my plan is coming together nicely. This time next year two in five won't know. I reckon by 2020 the whole damn population will have forgotten they're independant at all and I'll be able to stroll in and declare myself Supreme Grand Overlord. BWAHAHAHAHA!!
 
2001-07-03 12:11:16 PM  
Soylent - I hate Walmart - that was a joke!

Kgf - June 19, 1812: U.S. President Madison declares war on Great Britain, after a single ship was attacted almost two years earlier. You do read stuff other than American Text books right?

Please, anyone in America - leave your country and buy a history book not printed in your country! You will see that the world is VERY different!
 
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