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(Time)   Facing over 140 lawsuits for child molestation, San Diego Catholic diocese announces they may be forced to file bankruptcy   (time.com) divider line 135
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2007-02-19 09:05:10 PM  
This is a sham to get out of making payments to victims, nothing more. It's not like they don't have the money.
 
2007-02-19 09:13:40 PM  
I'd love to be the judge on this case and tell the diocese to DIAF and get their money back from the vatican.
 
2007-02-19 09:20:39 PM  
Well, they're certainly untouchable from the law. Might as well bankrupt them out of business.

Gary Glitter and John Mark Car would fair much better if they became priests.
 
2007-02-19 09:37:01 PM  
TheChaz: I'd love to be the judge on this case and tell the diocese to DIAF and get their money back from the vatican.

I would pay good money for a framed transcript of same.

I'd also giggle at the Vatican's form-parchment reply.
 
2007-02-19 11:24:36 PM  
I was eating breakfast at a restaurant this morning and one uniformed butt-burglar and 3 very creepy-looking other guys sat at the table next to me. I lost my appetite and couldn't wait to GTFO.
 
2007-02-19 11:43:24 PM  
torch: one uniformed butt-burglar and 3 very creepy-looking other guys sat at the table next to me.

So they had signs on their shirts or are you just stereotyping?
 
2007-02-20 12:34:13 AM  
Heroic Poser: "So they had signs on their shirts or are you just stereotyping?"

Hey... if the altar boy fits.
 
2007-02-20 12:34:23 AM  
Just because a few priests did these things does not mean that all priests have...

I know a lot of priests who are really disappointed that they are put in the category with these pedo-priests
 
2007-02-20 12:34:51 AM  
Moral bankruptcy? Intellectual bankruptcy?
 
2007-02-20 12:36:20 AM  
todangst

Moral bankruptcy? Intellectual bankruptcy?

*golf clap*
 
2007-02-20 12:38:16 AM  
How do you say, "Awwwwwww" in Latin?

Melt down all the gold in the Vatican and you could probbly pay a good number of the abused kids.

After all, how much gold would Jesus have?
 
2007-02-20 12:38:28 AM  
Just because a few priests did these things does not mean that all priests have.

It wasn't the crimes of these pedophiles that was the worst part, it was the ensuing coverup.
 
2007-02-20 12:38:29 AM  
Who knew little weeners could cause such big problems..

/ Looks like the faithful will be digging deeper for the tithing.
 
2007-02-20 12:40:19 AM  
I hope the judge makes them liquidate very last piece of their property and possessions. Hell they might only get $15 for a used crucifix, and .50 cents for a like new holy water dispenser on e-Bay, but their property has got to be worth a farkload.

As for the priests and nuns move them them all in to a single-wide and "pray" it washes down stream in the next flood.
 
2007-02-20 12:40:45 AM  
is anyone else when thinking of this reminded of that scene from that movie Liar Liar starring Jim Carrey where Jim screams into the phone "STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!!"?

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2007-02-20 12:41:18 AM  
The church as been a corrupt institution since the dark ages.
If you want to believe in God, go ahead (hopefully you'll pull your head out of your arse one day) but don't the God Damn church.

Don't defend ANY God Damn chucrch.

/WTFWJFDIAF?
//When the Fark Will Jesus Freaks Die In A Fire?
 
2007-02-20 12:41:44 AM  
I won't be satisfied until the angry hordes of recently unbrainwashed Americans wake up from the church's love-song and burn them to the ground. While the police stand by and do nothing.
 
2007-02-20 12:42:03 AM  
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2007-02-20 12:44:33 AM  
www.vh1.com
"I'm Bankrupt as well"
 
2007-02-20 12:46:28 AM  
Forget the money, go straight for the jugular.
 
2007-02-20 12:47:03 AM  
nick4753: Just because a few priests did these things does not mean that all priests have...

The problem is not just the fact that a few priests did this - it's that the leadership of the church conspired to keep their criminal acts a secret and move them somewhere else, where they would be perfectly free to re-offend.

I do not assume every priest is a child molester. Regardless, the Church is a corrupt organization that doesn't care about child abuse nearly as much as its own well-being.
 
2007-02-20 12:48:08 AM  
WWJD

/obscure
 
2007-02-20 12:49:28 AM  
The vatican could auction off all the things that they have hidden in their vaults because it doesn't go with their propaganda! Course that would be the complete downfall of the Catholic Church.

/rereads article
//Maybe that's what already happening
///burn in financial H*ll sexually suppressed closet cases
 
2007-02-20 12:50:40 AM  
Gee, it must be so hard being part of the richest "family" on earth.

The diocese is concerned "that settlements not cripple the ability of the Church to accomplish its mission and ministries," the letter said.

Not to mention that it doesn't cripple the church's ability to move proven child molesters from one church to another.

Although I will say that it's not just the Catholic church that does this. Other faiths do it as well. When my Lutheran church needed a new pastor we got a "traveling" pastor who went to churches to fill the empty slots as needed. Well, it ended up that filling the empty slots was why he was thrown out of his own church. My church was about to keep him until they found out about this, as well as finding out that he had been leering & making pseudo advances to some of the youth group girls.
 
2007-02-20 12:51:05 AM  
Because all of these lawsuits are legit, right? I mean, no one would stoop so low as to falsely sue the Church, right? Who needs judges and juries anyways? All priests are obviously pedophiles. Thanks, farkers, for expediting this process.
/where did all the bigots come from?
 
2007-02-20 12:53:35 AM  
Damn, what's it take to get a Church burned down these days?

Half serious. If I had a kid who was molested there, probably more than likely.
 
2007-02-20 12:54:26 AM  
I don't want this to sound like a troll, but in let's say 500 years will the Catholic church be rembered for anything besides this scandal?
 
2007-02-20 12:54:34 AM  
Score one for the good guys.
 
2007-02-20 12:55:44 AM  
From the article: "This is a very rich diocese with over 500 pieces of property and a lot of insurance."

What kind of insurance pays when the policy holder must compensate victims of pedophilia? Is there supplemental coverage to prevent the priests from going to Hell?
 
2007-02-20 12:57:35 AM  
Poor Vatican, they might have to sell 3 or 4 paintings and a few gold rings in order to cover the costs
 
2007-02-20 01:01:39 AM  
AgentPothead I don't want this to sound like a troll, but in let's say 500 years will the Catholic church be rembered for anything besides this scandal?

500 years ago they were doing worse stuff than this, and nobody remembers.

So, yes, they'll still be around in 500 more years, and nobody will remember this scandal, either.
 
2007-02-20 01:03:55 AM  
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2007-02-20 01:04:38 AM  
I can understand damages done and all but why not file a Criminal complaint against the Priest that Raped you, rather than seek funds from the diocese which overall serves for the good of the community.

A priest raped me so rather than try to have him thrown in jail and convicted for his crimes, I'm going to try to extort money from the church who's money really belongs to my neighbor?

Just doesn't make any damn sense.

//Send the pedophile priest to latin american countries. Those central americans know how to punish pedophiles.
 
2007-02-20 01:07:27 AM  
good riddance! (I hope).
 
2007-02-20 01:08:15 AM  
nick4753 I know a lot of priests who are really disappointed that they are put in the category with these pedo-priests

Yes, but are they disappointed they belong to a world wide organization that encouraged pedophilia?

Because, to me, that's the real question.
 
2007-02-20 01:10:26 AM  
What really gets me is, couldn't one defrock a priest, eliminating his circle of molested trust, and still keep secret what transgression has caused the defrocking so as to keep the sanctity of confession?

I mean, really. If a priest had raped a bo/girl in a public forum, where it was known, wouldn't he be defrocked for his transgressions?

If I give money to the church these days, it is because I am well, willing to beileve that donating money to good causes actually sends the money places I cannot go to help.

The molestation bothers me, the coverup bothers me just as much, but I also happen to know that during Mass, NO ONE person in that church (unless Jesus himself was corporeally there) is without sin, and most of us with pretty farking bad stains on our souls. This by no means excuses the abuse of children, of which Jesus mentioned that if you are to do so, you'd be better off tying a boulder around your neck and jumping into the East River.

But I am no judge of anything, and can live with that.

That said, I would probably be in jail for murder of said priest if anything like this EVER happened to any child I knew. I can guarantee you that.
 
2007-02-20 01:11:52 AM  
The Vatican doesn't think it's rich

"I wish we were. If we had so much money, we wouldn't have to go around holding out our hands to the world's dioceses," said Cardinal Sergio Sebastiani, head of the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See.

Riiiiight.
 
2007-02-20 01:12:17 AM  
Get behind me Satan! Oh no I didn't mean that!! AHHHHH
 
2007-02-20 01:12:21 AM  
frank and heidi make fark!
 
2007-02-20 01:15:50 AM  
Nice to see myth believers defending one of the worst religions going.....where's the Muslims trying to get to heaven when you need them????


/fark the pope and everyone in the vatican
 
2007-02-20 01:19:26 AM  
sc.tri-bit.com
 
2007-02-20 01:20:00 AM  
AHHHHHHH NOT THIS SHIAT AGAIN//
 
2007-02-20 01:23:01 AM  
The shame is that the Catholic church has too much political clout. They've used their money, property, power and influence to run an underground railroad for pedophiles.

If this were anyone else their cash and other assets would be seized by the governement. They're no different from a bank that launders drug money. In fact, they're worse. Reasonable people believe that drugs should be legal and available. No sane individual believes that pedophilia is acceptable.

But sadly their influence on our politcal leaders shields them from the consequences of their actions. No politician could or would dare take even a principled stand against the Church.

You can believe every word of Catholic doctrine. That's a personal matter of faith. But the Church itself has become a crime syndicate, and therefore must be stripped of the means to commit its crimes.
 
2007-02-20 01:24:27 AM  
The Vatacan is not a defender in the Civil Suit, it's the local diocese. Each diocese is financially seperate - so worse comes to worse the gold leaf won't be scraped of off the dome of St. Peter's in Rome.

I want to see anyone who covered up pedo suffer, but THIS lawsuit ain't doing it. The pensions of any guilty priest/bishop/cardinal will stay intact, the money will come out of the property & budget of the churches. In other worlds, the church members who didn't do anything wrong will foot most of the bill. Then to make matters worse, the lawyers will get at least a third.

Send actual guilty ones to jail if you can, strip them of any moneys above the poverty line, to the extent that "The Church" didn't act, have them pay reperations. Don't treat it like winning the Lotto and force a sale of Church buildings and rectories (etc).
 
2007-02-20 01:27:03 AM  
pvd021: I can understand damages done and all but why not file a Criminal complaint against the Priest that Raped you, rather than seek funds from the diocese which overall serves for the good of the community.

If covering up and/or ignoring child molestation while allowing it to continue in churches across the area and the country by shuffling molestors from parish to parish constitutes "the good of the community", then I want to know how Janet Reno missed you in Waco.
 
2007-02-20 01:27:48 AM  
pvd021

The issue with that is the coverup... 140 kids?? It should have been ONE and to jail for Brother Chester, instead the Church covered it up, denied the truth, made the victim out ot be a "troubled youth and liar", sent the Pedo to "gay camp", and set him up with access to more children.

What is the only thing worse than a Pedophile?

Someone who knows it wrong but defends him and not the children.
 
2007-02-20 01:28:27 AM  
Forgive me father for I have sinned, father is there someone sitting on your lap.
 
2007-02-20 01:31:36 AM  
Catholic Church is doing a lot of good work in the world. Yes, it is huge organization and it is the oldest but certainly not the richest or perhaps the best run. Doesn't make sense to ruin a conduit of good works for the benefit of a few injured parties, does it? 140 lawsuits out of a congregation of millions - let's put this into perspective.
 
2007-02-20 01:32:05 AM  
.....I mean, really. If a priest had raped a bo/girl in a public forum, where it was known, wouldn't he be defrocked for his transgressions?

Yes, if the Church had a surpluss of priests to take his place.
But they don't. Young men nowadays have other options than a lifetime in service of superstition.
 
2007-02-20 01:44:38 AM  
crayola3

You can't commit civil and criminal offenses and then claim that you're still doing more harm than good. The logic there is frightening.

Try to imagine the sliding scale we'd apply - how many children are you allowed to molest per school or hospital built? If you feed 100 homeless people do we give you a little boy as a reward?

The offenses of the Church in these matters are so outrageous that they deserve to be biatchslapped in court. There simply isn't enough good that anyone can do to make up for aiding pedophiles.
 
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