Hawthorne Wingnut: I think William Donahue is a reprehensible human being, and he embarrasses me as a Catholic. That does not in any way absolve the people this story is about.

O Rly?

For the record, I would have only filled her mouth with my hot, sticky, holy spirit...

Edwards found a two-edged sword. Live by the bloggers, die by the bloggers.

Christianists love being persecuted, 'cause if you're persecuted for being Christian you get to go to Heaven. It says so right in the Bible. I seen it!

So lets get to persecutin'!

I'm serious. fark Christ and Mohammed and Abraham.

Worst campaign mistake evar?

how about Gary Hart saying "go ahead and follow me."

LUKE:

For Edwards to put people on his staff who would show such utter contempt for Christianity is not just asinine, it should cost him any chance at a nomination.

But...they...don't! Marcotte has Christians posting on her blog. She directs her animus to those who use their faith as a weapon against minorities.

And the other blogger, McEwan, never said squat about Christians as far as I know. She just got caught in the crossfire: she's a woman and a feminist, after all, so I can see where the troglodytes responsible for this shiat-storm could confuse her for Marcotte and end up blasting both of them.

While Edwards probably should distance himself from this kind of stuff while looking to get elected, I don't think that what she said was entirely untrue.

/God Semen is a good name for a band
//Atheist

my god. My neighbors have a little dog that's less yappy than that michelle malkin.

dstaggs

Since when did Christians have all the political power?

There is one Muslim and a few Jews in all of the House and Senate. The rest belong to some denomination of Christanity. Historically, the west has had to deal with this religious bullshiat since Rome declared Christianity the official religion 1700 years ago.

Have you been living under a rock for the last 2000 years?

/rant on

I consider myself fairly conservative, but that 'Talking Points' segment offends my intelligence so much it's not funny. I barely made it through that video. It's like they're written for five-year olds. "Former Senator John Edwards is running for President on the Democratic ticket." "Like many politicians, Edwards employs some Internet bloggers." And these are better than his usual fare. I assume it's for his hardcore viewership, who can't actually bother to listen to his show, they just wanna be able to say something besides, "But...but...Clinton! Carter!"

/rant off

Does nobody realize that they're hired to represent HIM not the other way around? Their views have absolutely no bearing on what he would do as president, so why make a fuss? How the Eff can he connect this to Iran? Somehow what republicans have "accomplished" in Iraq makes them more qualified?

She quit just before she would have had to move to campaign HQ in north carolina, from the famed slacker abode Austin. Methinks someone has comfort zone issues.

If you read some of the Pandagon and other blog comments, it's like they took it as a personal affront that Edwards didn't 110% stick up for her right to spew venom from her own blog. It's like they have no clue that she was a junior level campaign staff hire, and that signing on for that kind of work means, amonst other things, that you don't frickin embarrass the candidate. Do you think Edwards even knows the name of all the paid workers on his campaign staff? Does anyone think he personally hired her? Has Marcotte even met the guy? Give me a break. He probably knows the person who hired and then fired her, but even that person is unlikely to be a direct report.

This is what happens when you are headed rapidly for 30 and you've never held a real job, and you have a highly rated blog because you get people all riled up.

Google has over 543,000 hits for the word "Jeebus". Malkin's got a lot of work to do if she wants to sort through all of them and find any potential ties to Democratic candidates.

Also: Be on the lookout for Mohama-mama-ding-dong, and Buddha-Buddha-Poopie-head

Aracnix, as I posted above: If someone writes something completely horrifying about your religion are you not allowed to object?

Let's see, maybe it's because none of us are being paid by a Presidential candidate to promote their candidacy? Are you so blinded by partisan hate that you cannot differentiate between Farkers posting and the work of a professional political operative?

The comments in question came from the writers' personal blogs. Also, the comments were from before they were hired by the campaign.

Do you think that "plan B" was really birth control or the good ol' coat hanger?

This is what happens when you invade Iraq!!! Oh wait.. nevermind that was for the Crazy astronut lady!

If you're a political staffer, even an amoral one, it's probably good to understand something about politics and that includes not saying things like a complete dumbass that piss big parts of your potential constituency off personally (as well as annoy people of good will and tolerance generally).

I think Edwards didn't know or have anything to do with what they were doing. I care for the man less than zero, but he's not a retard. He's just doing damage control and perhaps trying to placate the far far far left by not tossing the dumbasses directly out on their... dumbasses.

Pretty farking terrible nonetheless, but not necessarily a reflection on Edwards just two dumb and/or overzealous broads that worked for him. Now the guy having made millions as a trial lawyer... well that's another can of beans.

downtownkid: Let's see, maybe it's because none of us are being paid by a Presidential candidate to promote their candidacy? Are you so blinded by partisan hate that you cannot differentiate between Farkers posting and the work of a professional political operative?


That's what bothers me the most. Now my honest and perceptive political commentary on the web means I'll never get hired as a blogger by a major political candidate. Just because I hate everyone, especially women, rabbits, and Commies. And coconut. God, how I hate coconut!

>>Their views have absolutely no bearing on what he would do as president, so why make a fuss?

You always have to be careful about who you hire for your campaign. If you hire poorly, you have the chance to make a point by firing them immediately and using it as an opportunity to clarify your views. Or you can try to weasel through...

Hating Christians is fun!

downtownkid: dbaggins, it's an undeniable fact of political life in this country that your past is relevant. Also, it's not like it was something in her distant past. It was a relatively recent post from her blog. She was hired as a blogger by Edwards. How could her earlier work be any more relevant?


and it has taken this far into this thread to even bring up the fact that she posted none of these scandalous statements during her employ ?


I'm fairly certain she was required to bring her rhetoric closer in line with dignity of the Edward's campaign. I'm sure people will get a chuckle out of a sentence with "dignity" and "Edwards" in it. woohoo, welcome to grade 5.

She was an outspoken and rude commentator. She was also a part of america. a civic-minded part of america. and was also well connected to a large number of other civic-minded americans.



at some point, you have to give rebels a chance to join the process and change it from within.

both sides do it. The difference seems to be the Dems cave to media pressure, and the GOP just ignore it and move forward.

>>The comments in question came from the writers' personal blogs. Also, the comments were from before they were hired by the campaign.

Even worse. That just means the Edwards campaign does a horrible job of vetting its workers.

This is the blogger John McCain hired as a consultant for his PAC, Patrick Hynes of Ankle Biting Pundits. Of course the so-called liberal media and Loofah O'Falafel were nowhere to be found with their outrage:

Hynes referred to the Democratic Party as "anti-Christian." Hynes titled a July 6, 2006, blog post: "Exclusive Poll Info: Democrats Devolve Deeper into an Anti-Christian Party."

Hynes asserted that the United States is a "Christian nation." In a June 2006 interview regarding his book, In Defense of the Religious Right (Nelson Current, 2006), Hynes was asked whether he believed it was fair to call America a "Christian nation." As blogger and attorney Glenn Greenwald noted, Hynes responded: "Yes. America is a Christian nation. As I write in my book, 'Is America a Christian nation? Of course it is. Don't be ridiculous. What a stupid question.' "

Hynes apparently called Chelsea Clinton "hideously ugly" in a 2004 posting on the conservative website FreeRepublic.com -- echoing a joke McCain had reportedly told about Chelsea Clinton years earlier.

Hynes suggested that Rep. Waxman be nicknamed "Pig Man." In late 2006, Hynes posted a photograph of Rep. Henry Waxman (D-NY) on Ankle Biting Pundits and solicited captions, saying, "[A] dude with a mug like this guy really needs a nickname." Hynes and his readers went on to offer numerous vulgar suggestions.

maskedloser: She intentionally makes hyperbolic statements as a way of pointing a finger at ideological opponents who make equally outrageous statements.

no she cherry picks and lies. The thread that is unfortunately TF only linked to a page where she was ranting on about some comment made by one fark liter and saying that all emails she was being sent were from people who thought she should be raped. If that is her idea of satire to prove a point, she blows at proving points.

The best way to point a finger at ideological opponents who make equally outrageous statements is to put what they have said on your blog, unadulterated by your opinions, and use facts to prove them wrong.

She loses her audience and gives morons like O'really the chance to blather on his soapbox about you. Don't paint her as some sort of posterchild for human rights.

She may have a point, but it gets lost in her words.

JRHoward, I guess reading the thread isn't your strong suit:

2007-02-13 04:30:57 PM downtownkid


dbaggins, it's an undeniable fact of political life in this country that your past is relevant. Also, it's not like it was something in her distant past. It was a relatively recent post from her blog. She was hired as a blogger by Edwards. How could her earlier work be any more relevant?

These are the same ppl that could understand the outrage from the Muslim community after Allah was depicted with a bomb in his turban - I'm not Muslim and laugh along with every other American at the absurdity of the their reaction. The shoe is clearly on the other foot now and Christian (like my ignorant parents) can’t take a joke of their God busting a load in the virgin Mary - what hypocrites! Religion (the major ones particularly) is the source of all the world's evil and we would be better off with them and bill o’rlly.

BACONTASTESGOOD: She quit just before she would have had to move to campaign HQ in north carolina, from.....and you've never held a real job, and you have a highly rated blog because you get people all riled up.

And where did you get all this insider-information on Marcotte's career history and personal motivations? Peep hole in her bedroom?

Ok, so let's assume that "christians" do have all the power...if that's true, why can't kids carry Bibles or pray in schools (not forcing anyone else to pray with them, just praying personally) when Muslim kids get a state-funded room with a paid teacher so that they can go pray their daily prayers? Why do Christians get fired from work for just trying to tell others about their faith and why do Christian kids get mocked when they go to college and don't believe in abortion or existentialism or zomg, have moral absolutes? I'm a libertarian and a Christian, and I think they go well together. I don't wanna force anything on you, I just wanna tell you. So much for Free Speech.

dbaggins, let me put it this way: if you were looking to hire a mechanic would you go with someone who took a shiat in the back seat of the last car they repaired?

For Edwards to put people on his staff who would show such utter contempt for Christianity is not just asinine, it should cost him any chance at a nomination.

Why? I'd rather see an honest bigot than a mealy-mouthed windsock any day. I can easily identify (and ignore) an honest bigot - a windsock will wait until his or her position is secure before "revealing" their true beliefs, screwing folks in the process.

"Edwards isn't pandering to Christians - EVERYBODY PANIC!" I'm more concerned about the fact that Edwards (or, at least, one of his folks) caved so very easily with just a touch of pundit pressure. And, you should see what she's been getting in terms of hate mail from outraged "Christians."

Christianity doesn't earn my sympathy here. Her only fault was in not realizing that her remarks affected more than just her.

downtownkid: dbaggins, let me put it this way: if you were looking to hire a mechanic would you go with someone who took a shiat in the back seat of the last car they repaired?

your analogy displays a lack of comprehension.

Pretty clear the first two blog its were uses of extreme language in support of abortion rights.

The third one was an ironic statement criticizing the Duke lacrosse team.

Meh. Edwards isn't gonna win. He had his shot.

From the examples given in the video, only one of the women is a "Christian hater." Why does O'Riley lump both the women together in this category?

You guys have a really farked up, unhealthily dillusional image of Karl Rove. Jesus Christ, get some counseling or something.

It is apparent from her blog, and fark that the progressive left has no desire for Christians to have any part of their country or government. The comments here reflect this.

Answer me this: If you are a progressive secularist do you really want the Christians turning out for your favored political party? If they do turn out are they anything more than useful idiots or will you have any more respect for them?

Blues_X

Yeah, I heard that story from Lot's daughters.


Winnar!

Is it just me, or are these political TV programs reminiscent of Jerry Springer? I haven't read either of their blogs, but I can imagine that in some form or another that some of those things are taken out of context...

/turns off the sound of the YouTube video ...

Obeah Man: "These are the same ppl that could understand the outrage from the Muslim community"

Can you provide a link to the story where Christians are rioting in the streets over this? Killing people? Attacking embassies? I'll keep an eye out for that link.

At least this Edwards guy can talk to dead people...

oh...wait...

maskedloser And where did you get all this insider-information on Marcotte's career history and personal motivations?

Reading maybe two posts of hers in the last couple days. Sorry to let you down with the stalker angle.

So, where do these women live? I wouldn't mind hanging out with them. Hear me girls? If you're ever in NJ, drinks are on me.

ALONZ: no she cherry picks and lies. The thread that is unfortunately TF only linked to a page where she was ranting on about some comment made by one fark liter and saying that all emails she was being sent were from people who thought she should be raped. If that is her idea of satire to prove a point, she blows at proving points.

I remember her complaining about fark, but I don't recall the exac5t text of that complaint (and I can't call it up, either, since her site is down.)

I don't remember where she claimed all e-mails she was being sent were from people who wanted to rape her.

I do remember the fark thread that spawned that response, however, and I found it pretty farkin' distasteful.

She loses her audience and gives morons like O'really the chance to blather on his soapbox about you. Don't paint her as some sort of posterchild for human rights.

No one needs to give O'Reilly a chance to spew horseshiat; he takes every opportunity without being invited.

I don't always, or even often, agree with Marcotte - but I do think she is "some kind of poster child for human rights." Whether her style offends or not, the message she's spreading is no different than the message a lot of fiery human rights activists have spread over the last 50 years. And it looks like her punishment is going to be about the same, as well.

Reading this thread is too funny....and sad. What this country needs is a viable third party. Heck how about some mainstream middle-of-the road people. You know that if all the religious haters in the US were given guns, they would be perfect replications of the Taliban or such!

dbaggins: "your analogy displays a lack of comprehension."

How so? Both situations involve someone being hired to do the same job, both involve the person in question doing something gratuitously offensive earlier. Seems pretty clear to me.

Question: If the most risque and politicallty incorrect thing you have said over the past 10-years was published, would you still have a chance at public office?

I wouldn't.

The comments mentioned are obviously supposed to be humerous, not literal. And what if there was some truth in those comments? Well, who do you put your faith in, people who are honest and put their cards on the table...or people who are 'politically correct' snakes, who make the same horrible comments behind the scenes.. O'really needs to get DIAF and I hope KeithO absolutely demoralized him on this issue.