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(Time)   Columnist takes a serious look at a major issue facing today's society: Is playing the Wii a reasonable substitute to exercise?   (time.com) divider line 44
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2007-02-05 10:35:58 AM  
Well, I got a pretty stiff shoulder playing that motherfarking Wii Tennis game. I still can't ergonomically grasp the idea that no matter how hard I swing, it still won't go any faster or further.

/was fun for 15 minutes
//still want to try Zelda
 
2007-02-05 10:36:36 AM  
It's a sad commentary of the typical level of movement fatties have if the Wii is actually considered a form of exercise.

Fat farks.
 
2007-02-05 10:59:44 AM  
If you are the type of slug who considers time spent on a Wii as "exercise," you are probably beyond help.
 
2007-02-05 11:09:30 AM  
Let me save any genuinely curious person the trouble of reading this article: No. It's not a reasonable substitute for exercise.
 
2007-02-05 11:21:33 AM  
If you do more than break a tiny sweat while playing the Wii, you're either doing it wrong or you're a complete fatty.
 
2007-02-05 11:24:16 AM  
If you do more than break a tiny sweat while playing the Wii, you're either doing it wrong or you're a complete fatty.

What about those of us who use a Wii while on a treadmill?

What if we even turned it on?
 
2007-02-05 11:27:39 AM  
I had wii elbow from bowling. Fortunately, it has resolved, so I guess I'm pretty buffed now. Plus, my Mii is tall and thin, so I feel better about myself.
 
2007-02-05 12:06:20 PM  
God, no. Is it better than slouching back into your own multiple chins as you passively twiddle your thumbs on twin joysticks? Of course.

Especially if you really get into it (i.e. actually swinging through the tennis strokes, and changing stances for forehand and backhand), Wii can actually be somewhat tiring over long periods. I've also noticed that it's a lot more fun that way.
 
2007-02-05 12:14:37 PM  
If the most vigorous activity in your day is playing Wii, you may well be a fatty. And if you're not, you will be.
 
2007-02-05 12:27:09 PM  
It's better than nothing.

/ Gotta love the fat hate on fark, you all remind me of Rex from Napoleon Dynamite
// OH! That's because it's the same people that post about sharp knees
 
2007-02-05 12:32:24 PM  
It is the most exercise I get, that's for sure. Just wait till someone comes out with an exercise program designed around the Wii-mote.

/not fat
 
2007-02-05 12:36:04 PM  
I like my Wii, and not because I think it's a substitute for exercise, which I don't. But it is a heck of a lot of fun. And Zelda is great.

Confabulat: Just wait till someone comes out with an exercise program designed around the Wii-mote.

That's what I was thinking. While Wii Sports and others might not count as actual exercise, it is not hard to envision someone designing a legitimate exercise/workout program designed for the Wii. I'm almost positive we will see things like that in the near future.
 
2007-02-05 12:37:38 PM  
boot20: / Gotta love the fat hate on fark, you all remind me of Rex from Napoleon Dynamite
// OH! That's because it's the same people that post about sharp knees


Yeah, I've been a fatty forever, and will probably continue to be one. But does that mean I think no exercise actually is exercise? Nope. Being fat is not an excuse for continuing to be fat.
 
2007-02-05 12:45:08 PM  
I prefer to play better than life anyway.
 
2007-02-05 12:47:11 PM  
Not a substitute for exercise, but it's a good sub for an x-box or ps2. Thirty minutes of Boxing will cause you to break a sweat.

Although you can lay on the couch and control the game with little flicks, you're a loser if you do.
 
2007-02-05 12:50:21 PM  
of course its exercise ,anything that gets kids off the couch and moving is a GOOD thing.

Ive broken many a sweat playing wii.

//not fat,but overweight
\\\\needs more wiixercise
//can still do backflips out of a swingset
 
2007-02-05 12:58:28 PM  
DDR Hottest Party should be out by the end of the year, using floor mats and the Wii-mote in conjunction. That's moving closer to "real" exercise.
 
2007-02-05 01:03:39 PM  
Substitute? How about the only exercise that kids are willing to have nowadays.
 
2007-02-05 01:03:45 PM  
2007-02-05 12:47:11 PM Toonol

Not a substitute for exercise, but it's a good sub for an x-box or ps2. Thirty minutes of Boxing will cause you to break a sweat.


Wait, let me get this straight.. so after only half an hour of playing the most demanding game on the game, you can burn 40, possibly 50 calories? We need to get this magical box to all children right away!
 
2007-02-05 01:09:48 PM  
Actually some guy played Wii Sports for 30 minutes a day for a month and lost a net 12 pounds, he gained some muscle mass and lost more fat poundage.

He found that Wii Boxing was the best, and used full force when he could.

Will look for the link, it was on Reddit like a week ago.
 
2007-02-05 01:17:34 PM  
burned calories are burned calories.
 
2007-02-05 01:18:32 PM  
A more pressing issue:

Will Nintendo fanboys stop cluttering every gaming forum with their ridiculous ideas on how Game X would be soooo much more awesome using the Wiimote? Give it up, kids-- you bought $250 worth of minigames.
 
2007-02-05 01:21:38 PM  
I Like Bread: Give it up, kids-- you bought $250 worth of minigames.

$250 worth of minigames is far better than $600 of "potential" in my book.


/Weeee, sweeping generalizations is fun!
 
2007-02-05 01:30:24 PM  
I Like Bread: Yup. Damn all of these minigames.

/goes back to playing Metal Slug Collection.
 
2007-02-05 01:43:15 PM  
I think it is a good substitute. I am quite thin and in decent shape, and I play with some friends for hours on a somewhat regular basis. Without fail, the next day when I take my trash down to the dumpster, my arms are sore.

Wii is a practical and fun substitute for exercise for people who wouldn't otherwise be exercising.
 
2007-02-05 02:02:19 PM  
Toonol: Not a substitute for exercise, but it's a good sub for an x-box or ps2. Thirty minutes of Boxing will cause you to break a sweat.

Tourney3p0: Wait, let me get this straight.. so after only half an hour of playing the most demanding game on the game, you can burn 40, possibly 50 calories? We need to get this magical box to all children right away!

I'll repeat, with highlighting to make it a little more simple:

Not a substitute for exercise, but it's a good sub for an x-box or ps2. Thirty minutes of Boxing will cause you to break a sweat.

And here's a rephrasing, just in case:

The Wii will not take the place of real exercise, but it is better than the complete non-activity of many other consoles.

Let me know if you need any other clarification.
 
2007-02-05 02:04:37 PM  
See... I've been thinking about this. By itself the Wii isn't much of an exercise machine but it does get muy bulbouse bottom off the couch.

Now what would happen is you attached a couple of small weights to your arms and did the sports thing for bit of time?

Or the same thing when DDR comes out?

Could work if you combine with a decent diet. At least a bit.
 
2007-02-05 02:36:32 PM  
Has anyone played Rayman on the Wii yet? After doing the cow toss a few times my arms were about to fall off.
 
2007-02-05 02:45:45 PM  
Gilligann: Has anyone played Rayman on the Wii yet? After doing the cow toss a few times my arms were about to fall off.

Yes, Rayman's cow throwing and 'running' games have been kicking my arse for the past few days as well.
 
2007-02-05 02:56:13 PM  
Tourney3p0: Wait, let me get this straight.. so after only half an hour of playing the most demanding game on the game, you can burn 40, possibly 50 calories? We need to get this magical box to all children right away!

Compare to biking. A quick Google got me a stat of about 300 calories/hour using a stationary bike. So 150 calories in a half hour.

Sure, biking's more efficient for burning calories. Guess which is easier to get the kids doing, though?

And much better than the 3 calories a 1/2 hour that playing most other game systems uses (these numbers being completely out-of-ass)

/Zelda is teh awesome. Could only be better if the wiimote controlled the sword directly, rather than any wiggle resolving as a slash
 
2007-02-05 03:02:18 PM  
ccmods

$250 worth of minigames is far better than $600 of "potential" in my book.

XBox360 and PS3 have "potential", as well as minigames, the ability to host passable PC ports for the next 5 years, open-ended independent development environments, and a practical use in the ever-more-popular home theater.

The Wii has Ubisoft hacks, endless first-party regurgitations, ridiculous licensing requirements and optional DVD playback for your 25" CRT. (Component video optional!)

Still too generalized for you?
 
2007-02-05 03:25:26 PM  
Again it needs saying.

I bought a 3DO for its potential
 
2007-02-05 03:27:41 PM  
I Like Bread: XBox360 and PS3 have "potential", as well as minigames, the ability to host passable PC ports for the next 5 years, open-ended independent development environments, and a practical use in the ever-more-popular home theater.

What in there is not "potential" ? "The ability" - Potential. "Open ended development" - Potential. "Practical in a home theatre" - Potential, depending on which format wins the format wars.

(Component video optional!)

Quoting a PS3 commercial?

/PROTIP: The PS3 didn't come with component cables either. That would have made the system at LEAST $800.
 
2007-02-05 03:38:01 PM  
Substitute? No.

Good way for a group of people to get would normally get little or no exercise to get somewhat active? Yes.


/plays Wii Sports almost every day
 
2007-02-05 04:24:21 PM  
I Like Bread
Give it up, kids-- you bought $250 worth of minigames.

As opposed to $400 for 1 game of any interest to me on the 360 (Gears of War) and $600 for no games of any interest to me on the PS3. Sure, Halo 3 is coming out soon and it'll be 2 games I want to play on the 360 and...still nothing on the horizon for the PS3 that holds the least bit of interest.

Compare that to 7 Wii games I play regularly, mostly with my wife. Those minigames have a hell of a lot more legs than Gears of War would have.

/she constantly pwns me at the Rayman dancing games, damn her
//I WILL get rhythm someday...oh yes...I will
 
2007-02-05 04:28:16 PM  
ccmods
What in there is not "potential" ? "The ability" - Potential. "Open ended development" - Potential. "Practical in a home theatre" - Potential, depending on which format wins the format wars.

What you should be asking is if the Wii has the potential to do ANY of those things. Maybe someday Nintendo will get with the times in terms of indie game development policies-- but you'd be lying if you said there's any evidence of that happening any time soon. Oh, and there's nothing "potential" about HD movies... take a look in your local video store. Did you happen to find both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies? Yeah. They're not "potentially" there, they're "actually" there.

/PROTIP: The PS3 didn't come with component cables either. That would have made the system at LEAST $800.

Not my problem if you don't know where to buy them. Plus, I don't see how having to buy cables for HD movies is just as bad as not being able to play them... at all. Ever.
 
2007-02-05 04:47:52 PM  
HD movies exist. The 'potential' is that they may succeed. It's looking a bit iffy.

Hey, if I bought a PS3, I'd be desperately talking it up on internet forums, also.
 
2007-02-05 06:19:16 PM  
Ooh, sorry, your attempt to peg me has failed. I'm a PC gamer. I may buy a new console whenever one of them decides to publish a game I want (which, barring release schedule changes, is the PS3 if it's that important to you).
 
2007-02-05 07:35:01 PM  
I Like Bread: Give it up, kids-- you bought $250 worth of minigames.

Oh yeah. The Wii has nothing but minigames.
 
2007-02-06 01:36:26 AM  
I Like Bread

What you should be asking is if the Wii has the potential to do ANY of those things. Maybe someday Nintendo will get with the times in terms of indie game development policies-- but you'd be lying if you said there's any evidence of that happening any time soon.

While Nintendo is a lot of things, stupid is not one of them. If they see a market for more "indie" game development, they'll probably take it.

You know what "indie" game development means to most people though? Bejewled or Nethack...take you pick.

Oh, and there's nothing "potential" about HD movies... take a look in your local video store. Did you happen to find both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies? Yeah. They're not "potentially" there, they're "actually" there.

They sure aren't flying off the shelf though. You want to know why? Cost of entry. The consumer sees no reason to:
A) Drop their current DVD format for something that may or may not look better on their TV. Plus, they have already bought a DVD player, why should they buy another one?

B) Move to a different format that actually looks the same in the box and looks like a DVD, but costs more?

C) The consumer can't and won't understand the difference between Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, and DVD. They just know a HD-DVD player costs more than $500 on the cheap and Blu-Ray is more than twice that. They can pick up a DVD player for $50

D) They don't see the benefit in paying more for the "same" disk. Sure, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are high def, but that disk sure doesn't look the same, so why pay up to 50% more?

HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will catch on eventually, but not any time soon. By the time it does catch on (if multi-players actually make it to market and are priced right), the next generation of consoles will be out.

/PROTIP: The PS3 didn't come with component cables either. That would have made the system at LEAST $800.

Not my problem if you don't know where to buy them. Plus, I don't see how having to buy cables for HD movies is just as bad as not being able to play them... at all. Ever.


Uh, I use my consoles to play games. If I want to watch a movie, I use my player or computer. I could really care less if the PS3 plays movies or not...I'm not paying $30 for a movie that is on a high def format, but isn't high def.
 
2007-02-06 09:37:38 AM  
The fact is you do tend to work up a sweat and such when you first get a Wii.

They you learn that smaller non-exhaustive movements can get the same results, and it quells down. OTOH, you could purposefully stand up and play at full exertion to get a work out if you chose to.

As for minigames and whatever, I know this much... it's fun. I can go play on the Wii and have fun. At that point it has fulfilled it's job as an gaming console in my book, and done so at under half the price of a PS3.

The "console wars" for this generation seem to be boiling down to "One side chose making bigger/faster/newer, one side chose making things different and more fun... the fun side is winning"
 
2007-02-06 10:35:00 AM  
Only if they develop a Wii "Welcome to Spin Class" game.
 
2007-02-06 11:13:30 AM  
2007-02-06 10:35:00 AM Gramb0


Only if they develop a Wii "Welcome to Spin Class" game.


They need that more for the PS3. Learn how to claim Blu-ray is the best thing ever!(even though not many movies are on it yet, or the fact you need to spend $100 on component cables, or the fact that you would have have to shell out $1k+ on a HD TV to see any difference).

Learn how to claim graphics is more important than gameplay(cause seeing aliens blow up in amazing picture quality is more important than fun).

Etc, etc, etc. Let me know when the PS3 fanboys come up with a new argument. If I wanted to spend a few grand on something that isn't very good, I'd get an ugly hooker for a month.
 
2007-02-06 05:31:55 PM  
You can turn wii actions into basic aerobics if you want. You can also turn breakfast into excercise if you use really heavy coffee mugs and do curls instead of reading a newspaper. My only suggestion: Pitch with your left hand so you don't have one popeye strength wii right arm and a flabby left arm. Lefties can adjust accordingly.
 
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