That submitter is a sentient being capable of high-level thinking. Total bullshiat.

2007-01-27 09:09:01 PM shadesofblack [TotalFark]

Weigard: "I'm not religious but I'm spiritual."

Did this person still like to talk about Jesus? Because I usually hear that one from people who like to talk about Jesus.

Makes me grind my teeth.

If you don't mind me asking.. why, exactly? It seems to me that the two are not mutually exclusive... Jesus (assuming he existed) never founded a religion, and most likely would be ashamed to see all these people worshiping him via doctrine and dogma today. I think I understand what you're trying to say - but I would submit that there are plenty of folks who follow the teachings of Jesus, and consider themselves spiritual (however you care to define that) but don't adhere to any religious doctrine. Not trolling, just looking for some insight into your opinions on this.

AcadianSidhe: I find the opposite to be true, actually. Maybe it's just experience or something. Last person I heard to say that was a completely agnostic phyicist.

Well, I hear it sometimes from those people but in their cases they usually actually mean it, and not only that, they actually know what it means.

It's only a "stupid thing" when the person saying it really obviously IS, in fact, religious.

Maybe Weigard didn't mean it that way, but that's what I think. I'm an atheist without a drop of supernaturalism in me, but I know there's a difference between spirituality and religion, and I actually have a touch of the former. It's possible to feel spiritual without believing in anything supernatural.

But... yeah. When someone says they're "not religious" and then goes on to talk about Jesus? THAT'S stupid.

and creating a nuisance: just looking for some insight into your opinions on this.

Fair enough. In the interests of making a snappy comment, I left out a little of the detail: what I was really referring to are the people who are wholly Christian and talk about Jesus as savior and messiah, but still like to claim that they're only spiritual and not religious.

That's dumb.

As far as "following the teachings of Jesus," well, sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. That's religious. His teachings include, explicitly, doctrines of worship and faith in divine power. That is unambiguously religious. Even the moral teachings are based on divine law and the will of God, and not on philosophy or reason.

I wasn't talking about historians or anthropologists; I thought that would be clear, but if there was any confusion I apologize. Like I said, I was going for cleverness, not clarity.

Anyway, let's go ahead and end this threadjack before we get a religion flamewar going in here. I'm pretty sure that's not what this thread is for. ;)

and creating a nuisance
but I would submit that there are plenty of folks who follow the teachings of Jesus, and consider themselves spiritual (however you care to define that) but don't adhere to any religious doctrine. Not trolling, just looking for some insight into your opinions on this.


Like my SO, and, to a degree, myself.

Though I'm much more pagan than my love. He doesn't mind, though he thinks me silly sometimes.

wow two TFD's green in a single day

are the mods drunk?

SpillyFarker: Something about if you eat the green M&Ms it means you're horny.

this explains your large stash of green m&ms

There was an old timer dude that came to visit our home when I was a kid. He asked for a water, and he got a nice glass of ice water. He refused to drink it, saying that cold water makes you fat. We had to microwave it.

allium: I've heard that about chewing on ice cubes.

I have heard that as well, although my doctor friends tell me there is a perfectly rational reason we crave chewing on ice.

"Bob Vila installed vinyl siding on a whole house in 30 minutes"

Same guy, regarding the rubber mats you used to have step on to trigger the automatic doors at a store:
"That must be a really sensitive mat to detect the weight under the cement" There was a motion detector camera...

2007-01-27 09:23:13 PM shadesofblack [TotalFark]

and creating a nuisance: just looking for some insight into your opinions on this.

Fair enough. In the interests of making a snappy comment, I left out a little of the detail: what I was really referring to are the people who are wholly Christian and talk about Jesus as savior and messiah, but still like to claim that they're only spiritual and not religious.

That's dumb.

As far as "following the teachings of Jesus," well, sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. That's religious. His teachings include, explicitly, doctrines of worship and faith in divine power. That is unambiguously religious. Even the moral teachings are based on divine law and the will of God, and not on philosophy or reason.

I wasn't talking about historians or anthropologists; I thought that would be clear, but if there was any confusion I apologize. Like I said, I was going for cleverness, not clarity.

Anyway, let's go ahead and end this threadjack before we get a religion flamewar going in here. I'm pretty sure that's not what this thread is for. ;)

OK, I see where you're coming from, and I agree for the most part. I'd tend to agree that describing Christ as the savior Messiah and son of God is religious, rather than just spiritual. As to your contention that following his teachings entails religion as well, I'm kind of split. I can see how some of his commandments ("whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.")are religious in nature, but aside from his teachings that discuss God, he also lays out a lot of great rules for how to live our daily lives ("If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles"). So I suppose it all depends on whether or not you blindly accept the whole of Jesus' teachings, or just draw from them as a guideline for moral living.

And yes, this is pretty off-topic.. I'd be interested in hearing more of your thoughts on this, though, if you'd care to drop me an email. ;)

and creating a nuisance

If you don't mind me asking.. why, exactly?

Because people that say this are idiots. It's like an Early Warning System for dumb.

No hair on my Knuckles.



Go get your own damn Knuckles.

daywin: So if you are behind this guy going down the road, what do you do?

Drive off the bridge.

If you're not on a bridge, find the nearest bridge and drive off of it.

I have a razor specifically for the hair on my knuckles; along with my four dental brushes, three specifically for my tongue.

2007-01-27 09:32:00 PM Weigard [TotalFark]

and creating a nuisance

If you don't mind me asking.. why, exactly?

Because people that say this are idiots. It's like an Early Warning System for dumb.

So I guess a serious answer is out of the question? Shadesofblack was kind enough to share his genuine, thoughtful opinions on the subject with me.. I'd be much obliged if you'd do the same. Could you be more specific than "people that say this are idiots"? I'd truly be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter.

I've been told the earth is 6000 years old.

that shaving your genitals makes your wii look bigger:
now i have cold nuts, the beta browser still only has one zoom level and it took me 5 minutes to type this damn post.

In the early 90's, I once heard an "expert" claim that BMP files were pictures of naked boys, and GIF files were pictures of naked girls.

That you can tell the truth on Total Fark because, you know, it's not like the whole world is going to read it or anything.

/whew!

That AIDS originated from someone in africa "eating the brains of the 'green monkey' ".

1. If you put salt in your bellybutton, you'll grow celery.
2. Don't swallow gum, it'll stay in there for 7 years.
3. You can tell if a girl has STD's by taking a dab of earwax and touching her vagina. If she screams, she's sick.
4. If you swallow a watermelon seed or appleseed, your appendix will burst.
5. Raw potatoes will make you sick and give you worms. (My mom told me later she just said that so I'd quit bugging her for a piece of raw potato).
6. Asian women have 'openings' 90 degrees to other women.
7. This or that (a variety of substances) will put hair on ones chest.
8. Putting ones hat or shoes is bad luck. I think a woman made that up to keep men in line.
9. Monsters live in the forest.
10. A ring of toadstools indicate where Fairies were gathering and dancing during the night.

Ok, enough. I know about a hundred more like that.

I was going to mention the whole magical zombie jew on a stick who loves you but will send you to hell if you question his existence yarn, but it's too obviously flame-bait.

That if you swallowed orange seeds, an orange tree would grow in your tummy.

That men with hairy chests are 'bad'.

Cats kill newborn babies by jumping into their crib and "stealing their breath".

That men with hairy chests are 'bad'.

Close. Only one letter missing.

Most of us are bald.

My knuckles have never been so incorrect in their entire lives.

That dogs from the protection-type breeds will always turn on your when they're older (bad training or bad breeding).

A dobermann turns aggressive because its skull is too narrow for the brain, and the brain keeps growing in the skull causing enormous pressure that turns the dog nuts. Again, bad breeding/training and NOTHING to do with skull size. If it were true, all Lassie-type Collies would be insane.

A mutt is automatically extremely healthy. Sigh. If the parents are unhealthy wrecks, so will junior. Dur.

If the groundhog sees its shadow, there will be more winter. If the groundhog does not, Spring is near. Either way, if you're up north, you're in for six more months of freezing your happy parts off, and if you're in the south, you're too busy lounging in your hammock and sipping daiquiris in the sun to care what a damned rodent thinks of its stupid shadow.

George Bush is doing a good job. *chortle*

azrien: If it were true, all Lassie-type Collies would be insane.

My best friend has 2 collies. They are definitely insane, just not in a violent way.

That Pol Pot wasn't a real person and Buenos Aires isn't in Argentina.

and creating a nuisance

So I guess a serious answer is out of the question?

Welcome to Fark. Get a helmet, a clue, and the hell off my lawn.

how you can turn this into a anti-anti-semetic thread is beyond me.

My grandparents told me that the reason there were no black people at our pool/club was that they just didn't like to swim.

/I was 6
//Even at 6 I didn't believe it
///eh, never mind.

I was told that there are two signs of retardation:
Number one was having hairy knuckles
Number two was checking to see if you had hairy knuckles

/does not have hairy knuckles
// I know this cause I checked when no one was looking
///no foolin

What other stupid things have I been told?

/mind boggles at anecdote overload

wildestdreams3214: Someone told me this week that peeling the label from a beer bottle was a sign of sexual frustration.

You're a chick, and I'm going to guess it was a guy that told you that. Guys will tell you anything is a sign of sexual frustration, in the hopes that you'll say "oh sh*t, really? Damn, I'd better get some then. What are you doing tonight?"

We're wonderfully optimistic creatures.

That only TFers can post to this thread.

That Total Fark gives you a much longer, harder, more satisfying erection.

Knuckels are smooth but what does a hairy ass mean?

I was told that weener size and foot size are related... I found out from experience that they are most decidedly not correlated.

Yellow No.5 makes your testicles shrink.

shadesofblack

As far as "following the teachings of Jesus," well, sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. That's religious. His teachings include, explicitly, doctrines of worship and faith in divine power. That is unambiguously religious. Even the moral teachings are based on divine law and the will of God, and not on philosophy or reason.

Ahhhh but you did not ask which teachings. There are the manufactured ones and then the genuine one. As for the initial question, I feel spirituality has certain roots in all prophets. From Ghandi to Buddah, to Jesus. All had main points. Focused around one thing. And those that look to science are starting to see the same, except that a neutron takes the place of a prophet. All centralizing on certain aspects of life as we know it. Love/Law of Attraction, Peace/Law of Unity, Emotions/Gravity. As for the blockers of foward thought, they are the religion holders, for the scientist a "Law". All can be broken. Or seen through. It's a matter of perception.
Peace,
-Craig

Action Replay Nick

That AIDS originated from someone in africa "eating the brains of the 'green monkey'

I heard it was from someone farking a monkey.

elturdogrande

Knuckels are smooth but what does a hairy ass mean?

That you're a werewolf and you just don't know it yet. Check for these signs:

1. an uncontrollable urge to howl during a full moon and hump legs on persons of all genders
2. rise in missing and/or mutilated cats in your neighborhood
3. dogs either growl aggressively at you or whimper as they run away
4. anything made with silver gives you a rash