Tatsuma!!!!

notfromhere

Somacandra: Instead, 100,000+ Muslims ralled in Istanbul peacefully yesterday, calling for unity with Christians and Jews, between Armenians and Turks.



"You forgot to mention deliberately omitted that this rally took place after an Armenian journalist was murdered because he (gasp) dared to say that Turkey is dirty with (Armenian) blood. Before his murder, he was convicted under the "insult to Turkishness" law. Such murders do not grow in a political vaccum."

Fixed that for you.

TappingTheVein: Not to mention his refusal to resign at all costs to the very last moment.

Yup, whether he's guilty or not, that was a disgrace in itself. He should have stepped down quietly instead of dragging this for so long

blackminded: And further bets on juxtaposing these charges against the treatment of women in some Muslim countries/sects.

Why on earth would I do that?

rodeofrog: (I think I'm going to have to work on that one. Comedy's all about timing)

Go back to stormfront, I'm sure they'll find it funny

Ignorant McNugget: There are, maybe, 50 million people in the world that support Israel.

Wow, you really ought to redo these stupid maths. If you say:

Do you believe that Israel has a right to exist, there's a majority in the Western World that agrees. In America only, more than 70% of the population supports Israel.

Ignorant McNugget indeed. Don't project your hatred of Israel on the rest of the world.

/And frankly, the rest of the Middle-East hates us? It reallllly saddens me

Pseudotype: They have criminal farking immunity while in office!

Like most countries in the world.

You are supposed to be a theocracy.

No it's not. It's a democracy

rodeofrog: Kinda hard to have good without evil, too. Does that make evil good? I think we've stumbled on a bit of philosophy here that this thread should totally resolve.

Jooooos are evil, we get it

alpha_q2

What story about Hebron? This one?

"Cafferata testified to the Commission of Enquiry in Jerusalem on 7 November that he had seen an Arab cutting a child's head with an axe. Behind him was an ex-police-constable standing over a woman with a dagger in his hand. Cafferata shot the assailant, who shouted "Your Honor, I am a policeman". The Times reported Cafferata's evidence to the Commission that "until the arrival of British police it was impossible to do more than keep the living Jews in the hospital safe and the streets clear [because he] was the only British officer or man in Hebron, a town of 20,000".[4]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

Sloth_DC
I would say, a Mid East obsession.

There are many of Israel threads that get turned down

There are also mountain of Iran threads.

Man, this thread got frigging roasty quickly.

/about to eject

Mugato: I'm sure he'll be able to find a good lawyer.

Wocka, wocka, wocka!

Chaos Theory: Now isn't israel just the beacon of anti-corruption...

There's corruption in every country. What matters is not if it happens, but what happens when it does happen.

alpha_q2: seems like troubled times in Israel (Sarcasm). Not trying to thread jack, but did anyone watch the Hebron incident regarding the Palestinians and the Jewish settlers on BBC. Crazy stuff. Here is the link if anyone is interested.

Well, first of all, the Palestinians asked for these cages to be installed and, second of all, this is a one-sided video of what actually happened. Maybe you should investigate the other side

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Just give us our billions of dollars back.

I fail to see your point

Adman12: He's wise to steer clear. This is troll country.

unfortunately, I replied without reading TFT. Otherwise, I would have steered clear from here

He should have taken pointers from Clinton. What good is rape if you can't get away with it? He probably got complacent because no one was punishing him as he virtually raped all those Palestinians over the years.

Hebron cage on the Israeli centrist Ynet paper (repost from red lighted thread)
One of the videos in question

Sloth_DC
More like an Israel obsession.

Well, seeing as how the attention of the news media is more or less intently fixed on the middle east, and the only three really active sources for news from the middle east right now are Iran, Iraq, and Israel, it would stand to reason that we would see a lot of articles involving all three, which, in fact, there are. You could argue that there is a "relevant news" obsession as much as an Israel obsession. Of course, then we have to debate on what is relevant, and how many of the articles on any of the aforementioned three countries qualify.

Tatsuma
unfortunately, I replied without reading TFT. Otherwise, I would have steered clear from here.

hell, agree with you or not, at least you know how to hold civil discourse. I have this dream about getting to a thread and everyone is debating things in an intelligent and reasonable way, and we all end up the smarter for it.

/not that reading the snarks isn't fun too, but Life is Balance

PoopStain
He should have taken pointers from Clinton.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'rape' rape."

Captain_Impavid: hell, agree with you or not, at least you know how to hold civil discourse. I have this dream about getting to a thread and everyone is debating things in an intelligent and reasonable way, and we all end up the smarter for it.

Cheers, mate. That's why I hang around fark, we get these from time to time, and they are always worth it

Captain_Impavid: and the only three really active sources for news from the middle east right now are Iran, Iraq, and Israel,

There is a lot going on in Sudan (Genocide), Lybia (the Hungarian doctors blood libel), Lebanon (Hizballah's attempt to overthrow the government), UAE (massive economic boom and slave labor), etc. etc.

How dare he embolden Israel's enemies by playing Leda's swan.

Captain_Impavid
you forgot Syria, Poland

there's a video two
Video #2

And a
"A senior official of Israel's central Holocaust memorial on Saturday assailed Jewish settlers who harass Palestinians in a tinderbox West Bank city, saying the abuse recalled the anti-Semitism of 1930s Europe."
Link

On the other side of that, Lapid came under fire for making the comparison. This link has a summary of that side of the argument.
Link

is this all sides?

Tatsuma: Well, first of all, the Palestinians asked for these cages to be installed and, second of all, this is a one-sided video of what actually happened. Maybe you should investigate the other side

Hey Tatsuma, I am not trying to attack anybody. When i saw the video with my wife on BBC, we were stunned by it. You talk about the cages being installed on behalf of the Palestinians, how come there was a star of David on the other side of the gate.I would like to find out what the other side had to say, other than what I heard on the TV, which was "Sharmouta". i am not of arabic decent but have lived in an Arabia (Dubai). And i know that is close to calling somebody a c*nt in the states. yes the literal translation might be prostitute, but then again we have a lot of different terms for prostitution in the states. Again, i am not attacking you, but just wanted to see what the other side thinks. from what i have seen, Olmert is not happy about this.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3352098,00.html

alpha_q2: You talk about the cages being installed on behalf of the Palestinians

Yup, they asked for it, it was built with international funds

I'm not happy about this either, but if we videotaped you having an heated argument with someone, and we published only the section where you're insulting the other guy, it wouldn't reflect reality, would it?

I'm not too happy about the video, either ways

ok, sorry. I meant the areas that got the most attention, not deserved it. I was just saying it isn't fair to accuse Fark of an Israel obsession.

Party Boy
Can't watch the videos at work, sound like interesting stories though. but are you missing my point or am i missing yours, because i'm really not making the cognitive leap between what you posted and my suggestion that the media is fixated on Iran/Iraq/Israel stories.

My be getting confused.
/maybe i shouldn't be sitting so close to the radioactive equipment.

Tatsuma: Dude. DUDE. I'm on your side. Once your blood pressure has gone down and you've regained your sense of humour, read my post again. Adjust the numbers however you like, the point stands.

alpha_q2: And i know that is close to calling somebody a c*nt in the states.

Actually, sharmouta means whore.

Tatsuma

God how I wish there were like an email alert service for those threads. I always seem to get to them too late to participate.

plus, i'm still getting used to the liter/tfer adjustment. so many choices!

/when you say "cheers" my mouth cries out for beer

raoul.duke: If this was a Muslim state, there'd be several hundred more comments by now.

If it were a Muslim state they would be arresting the raped women . . .

/Ducks . . .
//Kidding

Captain_Impavid
what you are missing is my lame-assed attempt at a joke.

Ignorant McNugget: Tatsuma: Dude. DUDE. I'm on your side. Once your blood pressure has gone down and you've regained your sense of humour, read my post again. Adjust the numbers however you like, the point stands

My complete and utter apologies. I didn't even read your own post completely. I'm very, very sorry for that. Amidst the sea of trolls and downright anti-semitic farkers, I was in a defensive mode. Again, complete apologies for that.

Captain_Impavid: /when you say "cheers" my mouth cries out for beer

Don't tempt me! I've got a fridge with guinness, yet it's too early to open one... musn't..

Party Boy

Sorry, I actually was just very confused.

I have constant beeping dosimeters driving me bonkers too.

Tatsuma

Yeah, I have some Boddington's at home waiting for me.

/Could also go for some Left Hand Milk Stout. tasty.

Picking sides/teams on this issue is one of the problems faced in these discussions. Its unfortunate that arbitrary lines are sometimes drawn before the discussion even gets off.

notfromhere :Actually, sharmouta means whore

I already mentioned that in my post

moops : how long until a winger claims that bill clinton raped women?

Acually, the only credible accusation - dating from his time as governor - has THE WOMAN in question claiming it happened. So only one woman, not "women". As rape accusations go, this one appears more credible (contemporanious confirmation that she was traumatized, confirmation that they did meet, her story never changed, no upside for her to making the claim) than many that actually get prosecuted.

It IS interesting though that told in English by a long-time supportor that "We're in desperate financial problems, can you help me get a job?" what he heard was "I really think you're hot - can you grope my tata'a for me while my hubby (your friend) is home committing suicide?"

Captain_Impavid
lately I'm batting a .000 on fark jokes.

Party Boy

No, it's cool. You just have to aim for a more achievable goal. Trying to get me to catch on to all but the most obvious jokes right now is like taking a comatose person out on a date and complaining that he/she doesn't pay attention to your needs.
/not that there's anything wrong with that.
//wait, did I do that wrong?

Captain_Impavid

Ok, man. thats cool.

Everybody also clear that this Israel Presidential office is largely ceremonial, right? Way different than the Prime Minister.

Americans (US) really dont have an analog, but the closest would be, i guess, the Vice president.

/Yea, yea, leave Cheney out of this.

Party Boy
Everybody also clear that this Israel Presidential office is largely ceremonial, right? Way different than the Prime Minister.


Yeah, I was going to say earlier, I'd never really heard of an Israeli President. Just the Prime Minister. I figured it was a typo or something at first.

/If you're only news when you fark up, you aren't really important.

/Yea, yea, leave Cheney out of this.
No, include him if you want, jsut make sure you live somewhere with no wild game nearby

Captain_Impavid
heh.

/off to check out some books

Them Israelis chicks are sometimes hot.

/because it had to be done

Looks like NEW America Jr. Is going for the Clinton approach to government.

/I keed, I keed
//Clinton's the man

1 down, 6 million to go

Tatsuma
No it's not. It's a democracy

YES, But a flawed democracy it is with substantial zionist influence that superced public opinion. (The Economist, Democracy index 2007)