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2007-01-20 02:11:30 PM  
OrangeWarp

No kidding about NorthWorst. I went to Japan in May and I was scheduled to fly JAL for the bulk of it. Due to my connection's (American) incompetence, I missed the JAL flight to Japan and got stuck on Northwest. Awful.

On the way back I was lucky enough to get on JAL, despite arriving at the airport 5 minutes before departure time. The airport was prepared for the eventuality of late arrivals due to the JR (Japan Rail) delays, and I got on the plane with time to spare. And the flight was much better.
 
2007-01-20 02:13:31 PM  
I always wish that I was born a munchkin when I fly.


//I never wish to be a munchin at the dwarf tossing games.
 
2007-01-20 02:16:44 PM  
Is #5 a picture of a table? Talk about the most useless picture in the bunch. You talk about angles to make the cabin look bigger--this completely obscures anything I want to see.
 
2007-01-20 02:17:52 PM  
Olddinosaur

Before TWA went under, my family received free flights to anywhere the airline serviced. This wasn't done because we were rich, far from it. It was done because my grandfather worked for TWA from its inception.

Some companies enter in to business arrangements with airlines to allow free flights for their employees/high muckity-mucks. There is usually an exchange of goods or services at some point which justifies this agreement. For example, I once worked as the chief of security for an obnoxiously rich man who flew for free on American Airlines. He'd entered in to an agreement which gave himself, his partners and the senior members of their company free flights with heavily discounted flights for other employees in return for discounted service from his company.
 
2007-01-20 02:19:48 PM  
Photos of coach are in there. Just look at what's behind the staircase in the later pics. Yep, its planks with fabric as usual.
 
2007-01-20 02:20:17 PM  
I thought they were retiring the 747 in favor of their 787 "dreamliner." Does this mean they plan to make both? What would be the point of that?

Not positive about this, but I believe the 747 will be used for mostly international flights. And to narrow that down, probably the asian market more than the euro one. The 787 dreamliner will be used for mid range flights or long range to smaller destinations. Each has its own use.
 
2007-01-20 02:21:52 PM  
no snakes on that muddurfarker?
 
2007-01-20 02:24:18 PM  
The 747-8 is an exceptionally cost effective way to bring the 747 up-to-date and compete with the A380. The tried and true design has been enhanced with an entirely new curved wing design and new, more efficient/quieter engines, and a longer fuselage.
The A380 is entirely new thus having HUGE R&D costs to recover (over $14 billion). Airbus may only be able to deliver 7 or 8 A380s in 2007. Last I heard the average price tag is about $300 MILLION each.
The average 747-8 should go for about $280 million. (R&D costs were about $5 billion).
 
2007-01-20 02:31:25 PM  
very beautiful, a true achievement in air transportation. how long before the religion of peace tries to destroy it?
 
2007-01-20 02:31:39 PM  
Quel: Not positive about this, but I believe the 747 will be used for mostly international flights. And to narrow that down, probably the asian market more than the euro one. The 787 dreamliner will be used for mid range flights or long range to smaller destinations. Each has its own use.

The 747 has been the aircraft of choice in the pacific rim, especially between SE Asia and the west coast of the United States. Air France and KLM also operate 747s heavily on their Caribbean and Indian Ocean routes.
 
2007-01-20 02:34:18 PM  
General Specific: The airlines are dense, they will rip out all the nice amenities and turn it into a sardine can before they even consider the possibility that people would pay more for a flight on such a plane.

Almost everyone sells 1st class seats. 1st class in a 747 is real nice.
 
2007-01-20 02:35:40 PM  
Wow, what a concept, sit around the bar, glasses on the table, spiral staircases, and all that luxury, then you hit a patch of severe turbulance and it all get slopped around like a two dollar hooker. Hahaha
 
2007-01-20 02:39:01 PM  
OMG - what a beautiful plane!

Airbus is going to get so pwned.
 
2007-01-20 02:39:09 PM  
Commence Snakes on a Huge New Plane Photoshoppin' in 3...2....
 
2007-01-20 02:41:27 PM  
img114.imageshack.us

in the cockpit...
 
2007-01-20 02:42:20 PM  
www.postcardpost.com

Yet another 747 interior that will live only the dreams of the designers. It looks like fun too. But in reality it will packed with seats to squeeze every dime out possible. Thats just reality.
 
2007-01-20 02:43:03 PM  
My friend got stuck next to about a 400 lb'er that was oozing all over the surrounding seats. He had to sit at an angle because he was being pushed over slightly. To make matters worse he is extremely tall so his legs were scrunched up. It looked like he was doing a yoga session in his seat.

I sat next to this tiny, quiet asian woman. It was pretty comfortable. I'm requesting quiet asian woman seating from now on.
 
2007-01-20 02:44:47 PM  
Just the other day, I was discussing with a friend my wishes that a Miami Vice-inspired airliner would hit the market.
 
2007-01-20 02:48:25 PM  
I can't stand it that they show all these business/first class shots when 99% of flyers only get to glance at the stuff on the way out the door...Just like the predictions that there will be bars, workout facilities, etc on the A380, just hype...remember, 747's had bars once....now crammed full of seats.
 
2007-01-20 02:51:56 PM  
Wow, sure are a lot of you who believe these pictures are what it is actually going to look like. Wait until the airlines get their hands on them.
 
2007-01-20 02:53:03 PM  
What's the big farkin' deal? It looks like an airplane. In fact, it looks a lot like the prospective interior of the new 787s -- just a bit wider. Here's a pic of the 787 interior for comparison:

www.boeing.com
 
2007-01-20 02:56:39 PM  
www.strk3.com
 
2007-01-20 03:02:13 PM  
Just a comment on people wondering why Boeing is selling BOTH a 787 and a 747, and why airlines will buy both (potentially).

I believe the prediction is that the 787 has a better seat-mile cost, and with range to connect almost any two points on the map, it is a popular choice for a nimble international fleet. The 747 has slightly higher seat mile costs, but consider this:

Airlines have limited "slot" rights for takeoffs and landings at any given airport (especially competitive ones like O'Hare, Heathrow, etc.). If I am flying a New York to London route, I may have limited slots with which to do it (more demand available than takeoff/landing slots). So, while maybe flying two legs with a 787 is more cost efficient (and would be more profitable), due to my limitations on slots I instead fly 747s for each leg, and make more money because the demand is enough to fill 747s for every leg I fly (or close enough).

I've overly simplified it, of course, but that is the general idea behind super big airplanes and differentiating between high and low density routes.
 
2007-01-20 03:03:33 PM  
schwnj: I thought they were retiring the 747 in favor of their 787 "dreamliner."

As mentioned, the 747-8 and 747-I are being introduced to replace the 747-400 currently in use.

The 787 is to phase out the 757 and 767 airframes.
 
2007-01-20 03:05:52 PM  
MIKELIVE

Actually, the 757 replacement is the 737-900...but there is a (mostly correct) argument that it is a weak replacement, since the range is much less.
 
2007-01-20 03:12:35 PM  
pages.sbcglobal.net

Life imitates Halo.
 
2007-01-20 03:13:36 PM  
I hope the interior lighting isn't actually as blue as the white balance of the photos suggests. It may look cool in promo pictures, but I doubt it'd be that pleasant to spend 8 hours under blue-tinted light.
 
2007-01-20 03:17:09 PM  
If only airline travel were this cool... oh well, back to reality, which is that if you can fly first class (which is a total rip-off, cost-wise) it's tolerable otherwise is sucks monkey ass.

I occasionally fly up front on points. I feel bad for spending the extra points on it but the wife enjoys it.
 
2007-01-20 03:23:23 PM  
One of the main reasons I don't fly anymore (aside from the BS you have to put up with thanks to the idiot MUSLIMS that flew airplanes into the WTC) is that you are nothing more than cattle being shipped from one point to another. They pack you in like sardines, and expect you to be a happy camper on a 2-6 hour flight. I have to travel to Dallas & Chicago from time to time, but, by the time I show up at the airport 1-2 hours BEFORE the flight, hassle with checking in, late flights, poor service, it's easier for me to spend 6 hours on the road driving there.
 
2007-01-20 03:30:58 PM  
I was hoping for something more like this:

www.scaredmonkeys.com
 
2007-01-20 03:34:51 PM  
Jument
If only airline travel were this cool... oh well, back to reality, which is that if you can fly first class (which is a total rip-off, cost-wise)


I'll say. I fly a ton for work, and aside from the upgrades I earn throug the various "airline loyalty programs," I always fly discounted economy. However, I have also been banking away miles, so I have a trip lined up with United and Lufthansa from Seattle to Munich for Oktoberfest, first class. It ends up costing me 120,000 miles plus about $100 in taxes.

The price of the ticket if I had to pay cash? $14,000. Holy shiat.
 
2007-01-20 03:35:39 PM  
do i still have to discontinue use of my ipod 30 minutes before landing? i still don't understand that.
 
2007-01-20 03:40:19 PM  
lohphat: Fly Air Ambien or Air Ativan -- you'll sleep through and wake up refreshed while the other sardines look like they went through fours rounds of bumfight.

I'll go for that flight. cept the whole freaking plane will be ready to kill me. My husband calls me the "freight train of pain". Yeah, I snore. Loudly. really loudly.

/won't even mention the sleep farts...
 
2007-01-20 03:42:49 PM  
p51d007: One of the main reasons I don't fly anymore (aside from the BS you have to put up with thanks to the idiot MUSLIMS that flew airplanes into the WTC) is that you are nothing more than cattle being shipped from one point to another. They pack you in like sardines, and expect you to be a happy camper on a 2-6 hour flight. I have to travel to Dallas & Chicago from time to time, but, by the time I show up at the airport 1-2 hours BEFORE the flight, hassle with checking in, late flights, poor service, it's easier for me to spend 6 hours on the road driving there.

I hear people say this all the time, but then I look at Southwest Airlines and see how they keep on packing those flying cattle cars full.

Then again, their fuel price hedges are starting to expire, so look to see their prices increase over the next few years.

/avoids Southwest like the plague
//classy airline, trashy passengers
 
2007-01-20 03:46:01 PM  
All of you people complaining about flying should join me in lobbying for more beaming technology funding.

Beaming technology is the answer to all our problems. Beaming technology and alcohol.
 
2007-01-20 03:46:09 PM  
Airliners never, EVER look the same inside in reality as they do in the manufacturer mock up. In real life, it'll look the same as every other airliner out there.
 
2007-01-20 03:53:53 PM  
eraser8: All of you people complaining about flying should join me in lobbying for more beaming technology funding.

Beaming technology is the answer to all our problems. Beaming technology and alcohol.


Yea, but when it's a pain when it screws up and you have to deal with the pussified duplicate of yourself.
 
2007-01-20 04:07:53 PM  
Still all seats though...

I wonder what's wrong with a design that uses stacked beds instead of seating, y'know, like a Japanese "Love Hotel". You get a little enclosed chamber with a tv, stereo, gamecube (yay Ninty!) etc and the whole thing is horizontal so its easier to sleep. They showed something like this in Fifth Element as they flew to Disney Planet or whatever place whatshisname got to blow up.

There's probably issues about safety and quick evacuation, but seriously, if your plane crashes, lets face it, you ain't gonna be walking daintily down the aisles in an orderly manner. Might as well be comfortable :) Or, better yet, turn the capsules into escape pods too. With wings. And lasers.
 
2007-01-20 04:08:24 PM  
I wouldn't take Ambien for a only a few hours of flight.

You might wake up but you'll still be all kooky and forgetful. No, I mean even more than usual.
 
2007-01-20 04:34:16 PM  
so where is the holo-deck?
 
2007-01-20 04:36:21 PM  
Americans have shown time and time again that they talk a bunch about wanting sevice, but won't pay even the smallest premium for it. If that airline thay used in the Great Muppet Caper, the one were Kermit, et al were flying in cargo and pitched out the hatch existed, that baby would be full if it was ten bucks cheaper than Southwest.
 
2007-01-20 04:56:03 PM  
olddinosaur: I asked if flying 4000 miles round trip to watch a ball game wasn't a little wasteful, and she replied: No, her hubby is a mucky-muck with some company, they get free flights all over; she had logged about 100,000 free miles that year alone.

Free flights probably = hubby's company was paying for it, rather than the airline giving them free tickets wherever and whenever they wanted to fly. But that's just a guess...
 
2007-01-20 05:00:45 PM  
You could pretty much find those "open lounges" on planes back in the day. This is the 747 that I remember:

www.braniffinternational.org

^^^ the upper deck lounge on a Braniff 747. I don't remember much about the flight (since I was only 4 or 5 at the time), but I do remember my mom taking me upstairs and letting me nap on that bench in the center on our way to Hawaii.
 
2007-01-20 05:09:56 PM  
Why did everyone go colorblind back in the 1970s?

Yeeeeeck.
 
2007-01-20 05:12:07 PM  
fark the airlines. If I have to go anywhere I'm driving from now on.
 
2007-01-20 05:16:50 PM  
theurge14: Why did everyone go colorblind back in the 1970s?

Hah, it was teh druggz.

/woke up around 83
 
2007-01-20 05:21:00 PM  
blog.mobissimo.com

Here's coach...
 
2007-01-20 05:28:49 PM  
Skiffy - I'm right there with you, I have a free business class trip to NZ coming up soon from all my work miles. There has to be some upside to travelling lots, this ticket would have been $10k if I bought it. Which would be never.

The only downer is they changed the plane from a 747 to a 777 on the way back so I can't try out sitting upstairs.
 
2007-01-20 05:30:49 PM  
graphics.jsonline.com
 
2007-01-20 05:34:39 PM  
The 787 Dreamliner is intended to put Airbus out of business. It carries 20-45% more cargo than an A330 or an A350 with the same number of passengers and the -8 has a greater range. The "noiseprint" will stay within the existing airport and the airframe maintenance is 30% lower than for a 767. Fuel savings are amazing.
Right now, fuel is 23% of the cost of owning and operating a jumbojet and maintenance is another 6%.
No, I don't work for Boeing.
 
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