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(ABC)   New Orleans mulls curfew to cut murders, or at least force residents to kill each other in broad daylight   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 92
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2007-01-06 11:13:59 PM
meintx2001
I was there post-Katrina, never been back, never plan to go back. I guess the CHOCOLATE city is melting. Too bad it's not multi-colored like M&M's.

/BTW THEY re-elected Nagin.
//They get what the deserve.


as much as a do-nothing as Nagin has been since his reelection, it is hard to lay this at his feet. I cannot see how any mayor would have prevented this from happening.

You are looking at the predictable consequences of problems that have been festering for decades. There is a vast swath of the population that does not care enough about education; working; abiding by minimal standards of human decency; honesty; and human life. Most of the murders in the last several days happened in crowded neighborhoods; police roll up and "nobody saw nothing."

I fail to see how any of the white people who ran against Nagin could have done a damn thing about this, any more than he can.
 
2007-01-06 11:15:17 PM
GoTarHeels, that's just about the worst idea I've heard in quite a long while...
 
2007-01-06 11:17:20 PM
Charity is where ALL gunshot/major trauma victims went. In the unlikely event another local hospital got a patient with a gunshot, they were stabilized and sent to Charity. It was one of the best in the US for dealing with such injuries, largely due to the very extensive experience the staff had with them. Trust me, if you were shot you'd rather have gone to Charity than just about anywhere else in the country.

I know. I can't believe he wasn't moved shortly after being first attended.
 
2007-01-06 11:18:12 PM
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2007-01-06 11:30:41 PM
I fail to see what a cop can do to prevent a murder. If any of us wanted to go batshiat crazy and off someone right now the cops would have to be right there in front of us to stop it. Are they supposed to be psychic? The police are "law enforcement." If someone is getting actual police protection that cop is within range of doing something about a threat. If you believe the cops are responsible for your safety you are crazy. I don't care if you live next door to the police station and it is high noon and they are having a donut buffet steps from your lawn it only takes you seconds to sustain a fatal injury if you are attacked in your house. There could be cameras all over NO and they still couldn't respond fast enough to stop someone busting a cap in someone's ass.

What's probably going on is that all these cops see all these murders and blame it on drugs and start taking out drug dealers who are stupid or flagrant enough to get caught. Then Tweaky starts jonesing and mugging people and gets shot trying to rob the last dealer on the block who just decided to double the price on Tweaky's drug of choice. I know of a situation in Houston where a cop told his mom he knew they were dealing drugs down the street and he wasn't going to do anything about it until things got violent because it would increase crime in her neighborhood.
 
2007-01-06 11:33:46 PM
Btw, once again I say y'all are so ignorant of what's really going on. You hear about the dredges of society not the decent people here. New Orleans and the surrounding areas. So just go to hell.
 
2007-01-06 11:37:48 PM
Aello

Sorry, your're not going to talk me into moving there.
 
2007-01-06 11:38:16 PM
LaExpat-- you are the man!!!!
 
2007-01-06 11:42:30 PM
As are you. Wait. Can there be more than one?
 
2007-01-06 11:44:42 PM
GoTarHeels, that's just about the worst idea I've heard in quite a long while...

Why?
 
2007-01-06 11:49:16 PM
2007-01-06 11:08:30 PM GoTarHeels

...they're going about it the wrong way ... to to it right: DISTRIBUTE free guns and ammo!!

The problem will solve itself in short order.


On one condition .... we split the pay per view rights. And every tenth gun will be a machine gun. And every 15th will be explosives.

/Id watch it
 
2007-01-06 11:51:04 PM
"There can be no peace"
 
2007-01-06 11:54:58 PM
Lived there for 4 years. Big time love/hate relationship with the town.

Katrina was a tragic but it was a chance for NOLA to start over and stop being a lil' bit o' the third world right here in the USA. They chucked that out the window by keeping all the same tools like Nagin and Landrieu about. They pretty much deserve whatever they get now.
 
2007-01-07 12:01:34 AM
www.research.umbc.edu

Is needed down in New Orleans.
 
2007-01-07 12:02:19 AM
www.travelbypictures.com
 
2007-01-07 12:07:06 AM
Eventhelosers,
Hey, not trying to talk anyone into moving here. I just want people to realize that not everyone here are criminals and wasting the taxpayers money. Like I've said before, my grandma is paying her own way without any help. It's really frustrating to think that people only think the worst of us.
 
2007-01-07 12:14:49 AM
So..... your grandpa, your siblings and your parents are in prison?? or are they just on welfare???
 
2007-01-07 12:18:38 AM
If Nagin were to be murdered (brutally) things would improve. Oh, and please, God, take Villaraigosa with him.
 
2007-01-07 12:30:09 AM
So uhh, those of us in Houston who said these scum were the reason our crime rate went up so dramatically after Katrina are still wrong, right?
 
2007-01-07 12:48:51 AM
meintx2001,

Not me, nor anyone I know voted for Nagin or Jefferson. Nagin bussed in people who hadn't lived in the city for 6 months and have not even returned now over a year later to vote for him with the aid of several organizations.

Please don't think that the majority of anyone left in the city voted for his stupid ass.
 
2007-01-07 12:50:33 AM
Aello - give it up. It's not having asshats like them here that makes New Orleans what it is.

See, hating New Orleans is the new way to say "kill the negroes".

Go back to patrolling the border you farking mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers!
 
2007-01-07 12:50:46 AM
Am wondering if St. Louis, currently the worst place to live in America, is crossing its collective fingers...
 
2007-01-07 01:34:56 AM
Mr. Gunn: See, hating New Orleans is the new way to say "kill the negroes".


Joking? Or stupidity?

I honestly can't tell.
 
2007-01-07 07:00:44 AM
The ACLU will have a field day with this if it happens.

What about freedom of assembly?
 
2007-01-07 10:03:02 AM
Screw a curfew. Just give the decent folks a week or two to get out of there, then have the police leave. A month later bring in some Federal Troops to kill off whatever gang managed to wipe out all its competitors and viola, all the human garbage is gone.
/simplistic? barbaric?
//damn straight it is. but so are they
///and it'll work
 
2007-01-07 10:05:25 AM
Helen Hill was one of my friends in high school. She was perhaps the most maddeningly happy, optimistic, benevolent and benign person I've ever known. Better than any thousand of people like the bastard that shot her (may Hell exist and he someday burn in it). The universe is darker since Thursday.
 
2007-01-07 10:22:42 AM
farkingtomtom
The ACLU will have a field day with this if it happens.

What about freedom of assembly?


Exactly. There is no way to justify a curfew. Plus, who would want to live here if they can't come and go as they please? The very fact that they're considering this is a mark of desperation. It reminds me of during Katrina when the mayor and then-police chief were irresponsibly repeating wild rumors as fact. It looks like they are panicking, again.

10:05:25 AM MadUncleEoin

Helen Hill was one of my friends in high school. She was perhaps the most maddeningly happy, optimistic, benevolent and benign person I've ever known. Better than any thousand of people like the bastard that shot her (may Hell exist and he someday burn in it). The universe is darker since Thursday.


I am glad to hear from someone who knew her. It's so very sad, she seems like she was the greatest person. What a waste. At least she was able to do a lot of good in the world before she left.
 
2007-01-07 11:17:50 AM
the murder rate being high has nothing to do with ONLY 1200 police officers, but with a high number of murdering shaitbags living there.

NOLA is like a new low-flow toilet -- sometimes ya gotta flush twice.
 
2007-01-07 11:20:08 AM
So they think a criminal who does not fear the legal consequences of committing murder WILL be afraid of the legal consequences of violating curfew?
 
2007-01-07 11:55:18 AM
They lost 25% of their police force and 50% of their civilian population. These guys aren't interested in democracy and just need a strongman so we can pull our troops out. What? This isn't Iraq we're talking about? Bush's fault!
 
2007-01-07 12:02:21 PM
I do not not know why I even visit New Orleans threads.

The "kick-em while they're down" assbonnet brigade is in formation, as usual, and ready to catapult their outrage.
 
2007-01-07 12:59:23 PM
With the exception of the Fauburg Marigny murder, and I do not excuse it or disregard it, almost every single murder in New Orleans is either gang-related or domestic, and that has been the case for many years. The chance of anyone being shot who is not either actively involved in a gang or or is an abusive relationship is extremely low. I was born and raised in the city and live there now, too, and I never feel afraid going out, at night or otherwise. There are very few neighborhoods which are outright dangerous, such as central city (which IS NOT the same area as mid-city), which you avoid, and avoiding them is easy since the only reason you would be there is if you live there.

All that said, crime does not know neighborhood borders, it goes where the criminals think they can make money. Lots of crime happens in nice neighborhoods in cities all over the United States because a criminal doesn't have to be very observant to figure out that the driveways with mercedes in them PROBABLY have some valuables in the houses connected. Unfortunately, that was the case with the Hill murder, a home invasion on a doctor's family. I don't excuse it, but it is an exception to the rule, and that's the reason it makes headlines, because it rarely happens. Two years ago, a fan of jazzfest was murdered in an attempted robbery outside of the fest - he was a nice guy, he always wore clogs to dance in, and the murderer was a teenager from Misssissippi who came to town specifically to rob people at jazzfest. He came to where the money was.

That murder and the other murders are not a reflection on the "scum" of New Orleans - it's a reflection on the criminals, who are criminals everywhere. There are lots of jobs to be had in New Orleans right now - you walk past most restaurants and you'll see help wanted signs, but when dealing drugs pays you ten times more money, some people make that decision, as they make that decision in D.C. and Baltimore and Detroit. New Orleans just happens to be lying down where people seem to enjoy kicking it.

Oh, and Wblows, Mardi Gras is still the best party in the entire US, if you think otherwise you're just delusional.
 
2007-01-07 01:20:35 PM
mama's_tasty_foods

You live in NOLA, right? What's been going on down there the last year and a half or so?
 
2007-01-07 01:33:33 PM
Alexandra
You live in NOLA, right? What's been going on down there the last year and a half or so?

Everything, and nothing. Uptown and the Quarter were largely intact and rebuilding is going well in Uptown areas that suffered damage; Broadmoor was hard-hit and yet is coming back; Lakeview was harder-hit and is slowly coming back; the 9th Ward and East are ghost towns with a few residents. We are still losing businesses and good people; our murder rate is vastly higher than it was before the storm, per capita (we have
 
2007-01-07 01:43:13 PM
I have never seen such a display of stupidity as exists in this comment thread.

If you don't like Nawlins now, you probably never liked it. It ain't for you, that's fine. It doesn't suck, you do.

If you did like Nawlins before, you understand what peaps are going through down here. And we thank you for your support.

One of the things that makes Nawlins great is because it isn't Topeka, Dover or Orlando. It's unique. Some folks hate what they don't understand. That's normal. It's also a symbol of constricted thought.

Through the looking glass is a long way to go for some, easy for others.

Your smartass comments are predictable.
 
2007-01-07 02:34:17 PM
See, hating New Orleans is the new way to say "kill the negroes".

I look at it more like "let's just stand out of the way and let the Negroes kill each other". Cause they sure enough will.
 
2007-01-07 04:06:22 PM
zobear
"Am wondering if St. Louis, currently the worst place to live in America, is crossing its collective fingers..."

St. Louis is "Chocolate City North."
 
2007-01-07 04:30:53 PM
I know. Definately don't want people who would just lay down and give up. New Orleans and the whole of South Louisiana were built upon the backs of those who have been through extremely rough times and have gotten back up and went right back to what they were doing. Like my Grandma. I just get so frustrated that people would think it's ok to up and abandon those who really are trying because of dome bad apples.
 
2007-01-07 05:46:06 PM
MARDI GRAS 2007 !!

I made a short video of my adventure to Zeus yesterday( the first parade of the season ) This video is complete with funky ass music

Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R86g7r8LtY
 
2007-01-07 08:05:13 PM
what does snake pliskin have to say?
 
2007-01-08 12:27:45 AM
Hey Greta, thanks for the link to the ray davies letter...I have alot more respect for him now.
 
2007-01-08 08:23:10 AM
New Orleans is a prime example why Throwing money at people does not work.

The goverment has spent about 180,000 per person in the city of New orleans. that not counting the millions given from private citizens.

I was pretty close to buying some of the flood property over there since generally speaking i like New Orleans. I was buying in to the propaganda of a bright new future. Of course we all can see Reality is setting back in.
 
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