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(Chicago Sun-Times)   New study reveals what many Chicago-area jobs pay. Clergymen make more than twice the salary of average bartender but six times less than anesthesiologist. Once again, worst job belongs to assistant crack-whore   ( suntimes.com) divider line
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2007-01-02 10:55:31 AM  
ACW!!!
 
2007-01-02 10:55:52 AM  
www.saturday-night-live.com

/smitty?
 
2007-01-02 11:16:54 AM  
Does the income figure for the bartender include tips?

To be fair, though, both teh clergyman's and the bartender's income are somewhat performance-based--but the barkeep has to both lend a sympathetic ear *and* sling drinks, while the clergyman has a bit more time to do his job.
 
2007-01-02 11:20:14 AM  
Chiropractors make more than pharmacists and physicists?

*holds head in hands*
 
2007-01-02 11:34:38 AM  
hillbillypharmacist: Chiropractors make more than pharmacists and physicists?

*holds head in hands*


Yes, exactly. Now, a sharp turn to the left--not too sharp, or you'll snap his neck a bit *too* much. After you've done that, we'll work on the shoulder joints.
 
2007-01-02 02:07:28 PM  
Man...Chicago owns Fark these days. There must be a disproportionate amount of Farkers in the area for some reason.
 
2007-01-02 02:32:22 PM  
What about "crackwhore trainee"?
 
2007-01-02 02:33:25 PM  
Chiropractors make more than pharmacists and physicists?

Evidently Ch>Ph.
 
2007-01-02 02:35:01 PM  
Assistant TO THE Crackwhore!
 
2007-01-02 02:35:43 PM  
What muninsfire said.

Also, many bartenders have a second job, such as Clergymen.
 
2007-01-02 02:36:39 PM  
I'd rather be an Assistant Crack Whore than an Indentured Crack Whore.
 
2007-01-02 02:37:19 PM  
muninsfire: Does the income figure for the bartender include tips?

That was my thought, too.
 
2007-01-02 02:38:21 PM  
I thought that the worst job would be male fluffer. Especially if you're straight.
 
2007-01-02 02:40:28 PM  
Which one gets more pussy, the preacher or the bartender?
 
2007-01-02 02:42:35 PM  
Bartenders get more pussy, preachers get more little boys
 
2007-01-02 02:43:14 PM  
elturdogrande; preachers don't dig chicks.
 
2007-01-02 02:45:15 PM  
Man...Chicago owns Fark these days. There must be a disproportionate amount of Farkers in the area for some reason.

Err.. perhaps they are fleeing Gary Indiana?
 
2007-01-02 02:45:49 PM  
GigSnatch
Case and point.
 
2007-01-02 02:45:57 PM  
Good to know that dishwashers in Chicago make more than experienced and educated computer techs in Toledo. Oh well, still make more than dishwashers in Toledo.
 
2007-01-02 02:48:29 PM  
What's the blank job under Mathematician? It pays $60,505. I'll do nothing for that kind of money.


/had no idea Astronomers make so much
 
2007-01-02 02:48:45 PM  
zekeburger:

if you are a male fluffer, you are not straight.
 
2007-01-02 02:51:22 PM  
Muninsfire
Does the income figure for the bartender include tips?
Does the income figure for the clergyman include tips?
 
2007-01-02 02:53:02 PM  
Why does the article make a big deal out of anesthesiologists being paid so much? If they screw up, you die. Pay them as much as you can so you only get the best!
 
2007-01-02 02:54:06 PM  
HA! Crackwhore's a great job. They get to party all the time, don't have to worry about gaining weight, and get fed for free (if they swallow)


The worst by FAR is Janitor for peep-show booths
 
2007-01-02 02:55:04 PM  
I want to be a < > - they make $60K! What school do you have to go to for that? Is it a bachelor's degree in < and a master's in >?
 
2007-01-02 02:58:44 PM  
ItchyMcknobster: Bartenders get more pussy, preachers get more little boys

No, no, no, you got a perfect opportunity wrong.

Say it this way instead:

"Bartenders get more pussy, but preachers get more ass. From little boys."

Has *far* more punch that way, and if you can get the pause right when you deliver it live, you'll bring down the house.

Riffington: Does the income figure for the clergyman include tips?

Only for the mohels.
 
2007-01-02 02:58:58 PM  
Those salaries seem low for an area like Chicago.
 
2007-01-02 03:01:57 PM  
Among the lowest-paid jobs surveyed are dishwashers, bartenders, waiters and cashiers. These lower-paid workers likely will see pay increases of less than 2 percent next year, according to the survey.

Even though the state minimum wage is rising by 15%?
 
2007-01-02 03:02:06 PM  
j__z

Yes they do. I don't recall. Was it an average number or median? Either way, some still seem low. $100K in Chicago is nothing really...if you have student loans, a place to live, a car to drive, a stomach to feed, and taxes upon taxes to pay.
 
2007-01-02 03:10:59 PM  
West_Side_Charlie: Even though the state minimum wage is rising by 15%?

Depends how the numbers are run. And waiters tend to get less than minimum wage 'officially'.
 
2007-01-02 03:12:35 PM  
The median family income in the Chicago area was $69,900 last year, compared with $59,600 for the nation. Chicagoans need that extra money -- the cost of living in the Chicago area is 27 percent higher than the rest of the nation, Lampkin said.

OK - cost of living 27% higher than rest of nation. Salaries are 17% higher than rest of nation. Maybe that's why the rest of the nation stays out of Chicago...


Average salaries for Chicagoans tend to be around 6 percent to 8 percent higher than the national U.S. average.

I thought that average salaries were 17% higher. Where do they get the 6-8% figure from?

The exceptions are in two areas: the building trades, where salaries are 15 percent or more higher; and in food services, where salaries average 12 percent to 13 percent more. Linda Lampkin, research director at ERI, said one surprise of the survey was the relatively low salaries in the building trades.

Doesn't the first sentence here contradict the second sentence?

This is the most screwed up article I've seen since the woman who burned the stacks of toys for thinking she was getting wrong change at the checkout counter.
 
2007-01-02 03:13:35 PM  
Bartender = anesthesiologist.
 
2007-01-02 03:14:52 PM  
FTA -- Electrical engineer $80,675

Just as I thought. I'm underpaid, to the tune of ~$17k/yr, after doing this for 15 years. No big raises this year because we're busy equipping a test facility in North Carolina or some shiat.

Waaay past time for a change.

/Milwaukee's part of Chicago, right??
 
2007-01-02 03:15:01 PM  
Fropm the article:

At $307,629 a year for an average salary in the Chicago area, anesthesiologists were among the best paid of Chicago workers,

And a few senteces later, aansethesiologists cries:

he pays $65,000 a year in malpractice insurance. The job also requires an enormous investment in education -- Klock has a friend who owes $300,000 in school loans.



So, let's see, after insurance, he pulls down a quarter of a mil a year? Yea, I feel sorry for him. And he had to finance what's equal to one years sallary for education? That doens't sound too bad.

Don't get me wrong, I never begruge a man his paycheck and profit, just this guy, should shut his pie hole if he thinks he's gonna get any sympathy.
 
2007-01-02 03:16:18 PM  
I feel bad for the anesthesiologists having to fork over the $65000 a year in insurance costs. And assuming this is not a first year anesthesiologists, but an established anesthesiologists then most of their loans should be paid out. So lets assume $300000 - 65000 = $235,000 subtract taxes and such (28% is about right) - 65800 for a total of 169200. Lets assume if there is a medical emergency then they would pay 25000 in medical a year. So for shiats and grins lets say $144200. Now subtract the alimony and child support 65000 a year for 79200, then subtract the mistress, (70,000) for $9200. And if they still have loans 9000 a year for payments for a grand total of 200. So really an anesthesiologists makes only 200 a year. Less than a crack whore. Man what a sucky job.

katghoti
 
2007-01-02 03:20:47 PM  
Reading the list, I get a feeling that many of these jobs are part time and have not been normalized to a 40 hour week.
 
2007-01-02 03:23:50 PM  
katghoti

You owe me a new keyboard. Good stuff, but don't forget the payments on the McMansion and Bimmer.
 
2007-01-02 03:23:54 PM  
SOURCE: ERI Economic Research Institute www.erieri.com

Wait - Their name is the 'ERI Economic Research Institute'? erieri.com? What does the first 'eri' stand for?

Here's the contact info from their website:

ERI Economic Research Institute
8575 164th Ave NE, Suite 100
Redmond, WA 98052
USA

Tel: 800.627.3697 | 425.556.0205
Fax: 800.753.4415 | 425.885.5091
E-mail: i­nfo*e­ri[nospam-﹫-backwards]i­reire­*c­om



i­nfo*e­ri[nospam-﹫-backwards]i­reire­*c­om? I think these people just like using the phrase 'eri'.
 
2007-01-02 03:27:13 PM  
$100K in Chicago is nothing really...if you have student loans, a place to live, a car to drive, a stomach to feed, and taxes upon taxes to pay.

Hey - umm - are you on crack?

I live pretty darn well in Chicago on FAR less than that. Like, say, $35,000/year. And I put at least $10k/year into investments.

Rent is pretty cheap in the right areas. I have a huge studio with a separate kitchen the size of a small studio in itself. Even the 2 bedroom apartments in my building are under $800/month, heat included.

I have a car, though I take the el to and from work.

Add a kid to the equation (as though I'd be stupid enough to pump one out without adding a second salary to the mix) and while I probably couldn't put away quite as much of that $10k, I'd still be fine.

Basically, it's not that expensive here unless you try to live like a rockstar.

/used to live in rural Indiana
//spend less here because there's more to do on weekends for free
 
2007-01-02 03:35:31 PM  
Since when did "one-sixth" become "six times less?"
 
jgi
2007-01-02 03:36:12 PM  
Could any current Chicago residents enlighten me as to what the job market like in Chicago right now? It's on my list of possible places to move. My ideal job would be teaching liberal arts at the college level (that's the track I'm on) but my professional experience is all computers. I'm not looking to become a millionaire.
 
2007-01-02 03:37:02 PM  
Ok - and teachers can officially stop whining as $50k/year isn't too damn bad for 9 months of work
 
2007-01-02 03:38:21 PM  
Is six times less than X the same as -5 times X?
 
2007-01-02 03:39:59 PM  
Freudian_slipknot:

except it isnt 9 months of work. Basically teachers work 12 months of work crunched into 10 months.

How often do you take work home that you are not getting paid for...if you are doing it 2-5 days a week you are a sucker. Teachers have to because they get 2-2.5 months off (hardly any school is off for 3 months anymore.
 
2007-01-02 03:42:28 PM  
I'm in Chicago. I make a great living myself. Wifey too. These numbers do look low to me, but maybe I've been spoiled?

The market seems good now at least to me. I happen to be good at a relatively 'new' field (IT Security Architecture) I get calls about once a week from headhunters. Although I've had some friends that don't think it's that good, but they tend to be the 'slackers' and blame everyone else for their problems types.
 
2007-01-02 03:43:04 PM  
Of the professions mentioned, only one actually pays well enough to own a home. Weird.
 
2007-01-02 03:44:39 PM  
Freudian_slipknot

//spend less here because there's more to do on weekends for free


I LoL'd

You are talking about Chicago, Illinois right?
 
2007-01-02 03:45:39 PM  
Bartenders make minimum wage (less in some states. Minimum wage was $2.13/hr for waiters and bartenders in Ohio when I lived there in '97) so this has to be including tips. 40 hours a week at minimum wage is about $13,000/yr.
 
2007-01-02 03:45:52 PM  
Freudian_slipknot


I live pretty darn well in Chicago on FAR less than that. Like, say, $35,000/year. And I put at least $10k/year into investments.

Rent is pretty cheap in the right areas. I have a huge studio with a separate kitchen the size of a small studio in itself. Even the 2 bedroom apartments in my building are under $800/month, heat included.

I have a car, though I take the el to and from work.

Add a kid to the equation (as though I'd be stupid enough to pump one out without adding a second salary to the mix) and while I probably couldn't put away quite as much of that $10k, I'd still be fine.

Basically, it's not that expensive here unless you try to live like a rockstar.

/used to live in rural Indiana
//spend less here because there's more to do on weekends for free


I find that hard to believe. you gross $35K a year? after taxes, what, you're pulling in what 500 a week? On that, you have a car, put another 10K into investments and still have money for toilet paper? Amazing. I bet the 10K in invewstments is pre tax (a-la a 401K, and before the 35K a year figure?).

I mean good for you, but I coulnd't make those numbers work for me. I tried, several years ago and almost died.
 
2007-01-02 03:46:53 PM  
tweekster

Well, honestly, my wife is a teacher, and I bring home work far more often then her. But I think she's an exception.

However, I totally admire the work of teachers and I feel they should be paid much do to their impact on society. She is NOT overpaid, even without bringing work home.
 
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