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(sbpost.ie)   Donald Trump doesn't have nice things to say about a proposed skyscraper that's significantly taller than his 92-story building under construction in Chicago   (sbpost.ie) divider line 83
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2006-12-27 12:21:38 AM  
Every week I somehow manage to dislike Trump just a little bit more. If he actually said something constructive I may actually take him seriously. I can't speak for the nearly 10 million Chicagoland residents, but I would think Chicago has room to grow and city officials would love to keep more development and people inside of city limits. Are the prices going to keep people away? Maybe. Would the building compete directly with Trump? Yes. Financial nightmare? Maybe. Bigger and more inspiring than Trump International Hotel and Tower? Slightly.

Dear Mr. Trump,
STFU.
Sincerely,
Sitruc
 
2006-12-27 01:01:55 AM  
I kind of like the new design better than the orginal. Although it still looks like a drill bit.
 
2006-12-27 01:21:04 AM  
What's Rosie O'Donnell have to say about it? 'Cause honestly, the tiff between those two dudes is the only time I've ever given a shiat about either one of them.
 
2006-12-27 02:14:10 AM  
The Trump-fecta's in play, people. Don't disappoint!
 
2006-12-27 02:17:02 AM  
"You're spired"
 
2006-12-27 02:20:11 AM  
i104.photobucket.com

TRUMP vs. The SUPER BIG MOUTH BUTCH LEZZIES!

stay tuned!
 
2006-12-27 02:24:01 AM  
is it trump day again already? neat. i'm going to go fire my underlings.
 
2006-12-27 02:26:43 AM  
Sitruc, I'm with you.
 
2006-12-27 02:27:12 AM  
that one on the right kinda looks like the chick from "The Closer" (pops)

She has an enormous mouth too
 
2006-12-27 02:29:53 AM  
I'm very upset by this disturbing new development.
 
2006-12-27 02:30:28 AM  
that one on the right kinda looks like the chick from "The Closer" (pops)

She has an enormous mouth too


Agreed. For some reason - when I look at them I don't like it. Maybe too many years of Mortal Kombat?

/Was her name Jade?
 
2006-12-27 02:31:25 AM  
Trump's building vs the Chicago Spire

is the drawing of the Spire to scale cause damn that's scary.
 
2006-12-27 02:36:56 AM  
Here's what I think about Trump:
 
2006-12-27 02:38:55 AM  
I don't hold Trump's opinion in very high regard. He's certainly not the businessman his old man was, but he's a larger-than-life asshole. He can, however, talk investors out of money.

I don't necessarily agree with anything he said here, but I do hope they don't build the re-designed version. I kind of liked the original (left):

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Though with the re-design, that would be one hell of a view from the top floor.
 
2006-12-27 02:50:42 AM  
The Spire building just looks odd to me...just looks out of place with the skyline. Someone put up a picture of the skyline with the Trump and Spire building and it still stood out, but the Trump building looked perfect. I don't like the guy but he's obviously not stupid. However if the Spire is built I think Chicago will start looking radically different because more will follow. If I had the money I definitely wouldn't mind living there, just think it looks odd and the building design needs to be changed some.
 
2006-12-27 02:53:15 AM  
Well.. WTF, man? No shiat it's gonna be taller than Trumps, by 600 friggin feet !

Sorry, Donald. 1400 ft is not exactly an engineering marvel. It's nice, dont get me wrong. In fact, I like the design of Trumps better. That twisty one looks like a sex toy.
 
2006-12-27 03:01:56 AM  
Irish property developer Garrett Kelleher's plans to build the world's tallest residential building in Chicago have come under fire from one of America's most famous businessmen.

Irish property developer Garrett Kelleher's plans to build the world's tallest residential building in Chicago have come under fire from one of America's most famous businessmen.


Journalism training provided by
www.discountbananas.com
 
2006-12-27 03:04:41 AM  
Donald "Worst hairpiece ever" Trump is a complete and utter a5swipe, who should STFU and DIAF.

/Why oh why is that moran on TV all the time
//He is really annoying the fark out of me..
 
2006-12-27 03:13:16 AM  
While Trump onviously has a vested interest in less competition
for his current building plans - he does know the ins and outs
of such a project better than 99.9% of the people out there.

But as a sway-a-phobe, I have a question....
At 2,000 feet vs. 1,600 ft,
how much will each's top-floor apartment sway in high winds?
Chicago, high winds?
 
2006-12-27 03:14:55 AM  
That's not a drill bit. It looks more like an Easy Out

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Anyone who has ever re-built an engine can see that.
 
2006-12-27 03:16:13 AM  
Who is Donald Fart? A businessman or something? That syrup is the worst and least convincing cover up ever.
 
2006-12-27 03:16:27 AM  
tallguywithglasseson: Frankly, I'm with you as to the design merit of the thing. I think that the spire adds just a slight touch of classicism to a very modern design, and the taper is well complimented by the more regular "spin" of the building. The new one is interesting as a concept, but in my opinion, it doesn't really reach a natural terminus visually.


t farks: That said, my opinion is still with you. While the architectural merit of the Spire is certainly intriguing, the design doesn't pay any homage to the existing cityscape. Its placement lessens its own beauty, not just the skyline as a whole.
 
2006-12-27 03:20:16 AM  
bmasso Per your question:

Q: What is the windiest city in the USA?

A: According to the National Climatic Data Center's list of annual average wind speeds, the windiest U.S. city is Dodge City, Kansas, with an average speed of 13.9 mph. Other windy cities include Amarillo, Texas (13.5 mph) and Rochester, Minn. (13.1 mph.). The windiest "big" cities are New York City (LaGuardia Airport) and Oklahoma City, which both have an average annual wind speed of 12.2 mph.

The "windy city" of Chicago isn't as high on the list as you might think. It's average annual wind speed is 10.3 mph.

Our answers archive has more FAQ about wind speed averages and records.

(Answered by Doyle Rice, USATODAY.com weather editor., June 23, 2005)

Source
 
2006-12-27 03:24:13 AM  
maudibjr
I kind of like the new design better than the orginal. Although it still looks like a drill bit.


There's a building in San Diego that my friends and I refer to as the Phillip's Head Screw Driver Building, and another complex of towers, not too far away from the screw driver, that we call the Ratchet Set Buildings.

/Useless without pictures
//I'm not skilled enough to add pictures. Apologies.
 
2006-12-27 03:27:02 AM  
chicagos nickname of "the windy city" has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of actual wind experienced on a daily basis.

that misconception bothers me as much as people who believe "wherefore art thou romeo?" means "where are you romeo?"

/nickname is derived from chicago business men back in the day being "full of hot air"
//means "why is your name romeo?" interpreted as "why do i have to love the guy from the one family im supposed to hate?"
 
2006-12-27 03:35:40 AM  
You're not doing too well when you get totally owned by (of all people!) Rosie O'Donnell. Donald Trump is a billionaire brat who proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that money can't buy class.

JR
 
2006-12-27 03:37:14 AM  
Is it as ugly on the inside as it it on the outside?
 
2006-12-27 03:46:32 AM  
Even the damn SIGN next to the under-construction Trump Thing, explaining what's going on with the construction (just north of the river) is an overblown, metal with gilt letters crazy fancy annoying WTF? monument.

I think his hair has grown downwards into what's left of grey matter.
 
2006-12-27 03:55:01 AM  
that's residential??
 
2006-12-27 04:05:29 AM  
menace to propriety: the design doesn't pay any homage to the existing cityscape

When the first large tall buildings went up in Chicago, the same was true, each tiime one went up. Even when the Tribune building went up, it looked like nothing else. Architectureal unity is a fradulent concept invented by hacks who couldn't design their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
2006-12-27 04:11:49 AM  
So, basically, Trump is feeling threatened by an erection bigger than his own?

/Building!
 
2006-12-27 04:14:10 AM  
Potential redesigns:

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Saruman says: "I like choice B!"
 
2006-12-27 04:22:30 AM  
WhyteRaven74

I certainly agree that "architectural unity" is a crock. It's well known that the cityscapes we take for granted today only exist because of rampant competition for height and visual dominance. So the only unity is in the hubris of the architects and their clients.

In this case, however, I meant simply that the Spire stands out so dramatically that it becomes an unavoidable focal point. This is not necessarily a great evil, but I feel that the building looks out of place.

/Further thoughts to share?
 
2006-12-27 04:24:30 AM  
I saw pictures of this building at a party three years ago where it was flashing its naughty bits and licking the nipples of some hawt architects.

Wonder what Trump is going to do about that?
 
2006-12-27 04:42:31 AM  
"In this case, however, I meant simply that the Spire stands out so dramatically that it becomes an unavoidable focal point. This is not necessarily a great evil, but I feel that the building looks out of place."

Don't worry, I'm sure there's a terrorist out there somewhere just itching to bring it down.

JR
 
2006-12-27 04:58:31 AM  
Sounds like the Donald needs some cheese.
 
2006-12-27 05:16:19 AM  
I want licorice.
 
2006-12-27 05:25:43 AM  
Daley will never let that thing get built in Chicago. Ain't gonna happen.
 
2006-12-27 05:44:14 AM  
m1.freeshare.us
 
2006-12-27 06:02:01 AM  
FTA

of these changes mean that the Chicago Spire will have three times the capacity it had in its earliest stages. It will total about three million square feet, and will include 1,300 luxury residential apartments. An earlier plan to include a 150-bedroom hotel has been shelved.

The development company's aim to sell the units at a price of about $1,000 per square foot has raised some eyebrows. The so-called Windy City has several other high-end buildings either constructed or under development.


3 million sqr ft / 1300 apartments = aprox 2300 square feet per apartment which is about the size you'd expect for a luxury apartment... now at 1000 a sq foot each apartment will cost 23 million dollars... if they think there is 867(break even) people who want to buy a condo for 23 million dollars, they are going to be very very disapointed... and thats only if the 1000 per square foot is the one time purchase price not a yearly or the incomprehensiable monthly rent

Some real estate experts in the city have questioned whether there will be sufficient demand to make the Kelleher project a success.

...

Due to the fact that one of the other luxury buildings in which units are still for sale is a Trump Tower...


so let me get this straight, they want to spend 2 billion to build a big eye sore that is going to be used for 23 million dollar a pop condos and there is already a building set up for the same purpose that has a bunch of vacant units.


Kelleher's Chicago spokesman Thomas Murphy insisted that the project had sound financial foundations.


you won't find me investing... shorting maybe


''Garrett Kelleher is interested in marketing this project globally," Murphy told the Chicago Sun-Times.

''You look at the markets around the world, and you have to say that Chicago is underpriced and maybe it's undiscovered."


what? if there are vacant units in an existing competitors tower and the price of units is low, how is adding 1300 more units going to increase demand and raise the price people are willing to pay?

someone flunked economics hardcore, like so hard they caught fire in the first 5 minutes of instruction.
 
2006-12-27 06:04:02 AM  
Choice B is very Isengard.
 
2006-12-27 06:16:40 AM  
Of course. Only one phallic symbol can be the tallest, and it's gotta be the Donald's.
 
2006-12-27 06:26:10 AM  
WTF is that? A unicorns horn?

That is just not "City of Big Shoulders" material. Just make another Sears type building. We dont need no flashy crap in Chicago. Leave that shiat to LA.
 
2006-12-27 06:36:16 AM  
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/the luck dragon approves
 
2006-12-27 07:15:18 AM  
shrugs: chicagos nickname of "the windy city" has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of actual wind experienced on a daily basis.

/nickname is derived from chicago business men back in the day being "full of hot air"


Actually it has at least something to do with the weather. In an era when urban areas were littered with horse dung and coal smoke, the winds provided some relief, so it was a good thing. The "hot air" was a applied in a derogatory fashion roughly contemporaneously.

L8knight: Daley will never let that thing get built in Chicago. Ain't gonna happen.

I don't think Daley will be the chief ob$tacle.
 
2006-12-27 07:22:55 AM  
C_Canuk: 3 million sqr ft / 1300 apartments = aprox 2300 square feet per apartment which is about the size you'd expect for a luxury apartment... now at 1000 a sq foot each apartment will cost 23 million dollars... if they think there is 867(break even) people who want to buy a condo for 23 million dollars, they are going to be very very disapointed...

Good thing they hire better math geniuses than yourself. 2,300 * 1,000 = 2.3 million, not 23 million. :-p
 
2006-12-27 07:30:08 AM  
I'm more interested in the new Trump Taj Mahal tower going up in Atlantic City and the dealings between Steve Wynn and the Donald on another proposed Mega-Resort near the AC Boardwalk Hall which may include knocking down the Old Trump Plaza for space.
 
2006-12-27 07:32:31 AM  
Looks like a twizzler. However, still nicer looking than that freedom tower turd they're going to build in NYC.

Trumps an Ass.
 
2006-12-27 07:34:46 AM  
Someone's got skyscraper envy.
 
2006-12-27 07:42:12 AM  
First an overweight Irish lesbian and now an Irishman with penis envy.

If he got killed by a pint of Irish Stout then two trifectas could be completed.

/Brown, Ford, Trump
//O'Donnell, Kelleher, Guinness
 
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