Because the dumbf*ck that did that stupid test is representative of every single person who doesn't completely agree with the official story, right? Eat a bowl of dicks, submitter.

Obviously, the subby believes that the 9/11 facts are exactly as presented by the government and they would never leave out details. While I am not supporting the conspiracy theories, its a pretty safe bet the Bush administration lied to us about some details. Its not like they are known for their honesty.

Damn, subby. I came in to ask if you really thought such blatant idiot-bait would work, but I see it has.

Nah, this thread's not gonna start a flamewar.

kabloink: Bush administration lied to us about some details. Its not like they are known for their honesty.

Remember this classic? "The air is safe to breathe. You don't need masks. Go back to work." I'm sure the people getting cancer and emphysema get a kick out of that one.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who did that stupid chicken wire "test" was just some asshole trying to discredit the truth movement.

some facts still unknown and some untrue statments about the air after the collapse of the towers does not mean there was a government conspiracy on 9/11 any more than unanswered questions and false starts in the theory of evolution mean that creationism is the answer.

It's about farking time they started on rebuilding. When a bully gives you a black eye, you need to get back up and show them that you're not hurt nearly as badly as he thinks. Not to mention that the land in question is some of the most expensive land in world history. Allowing it to sit idle should be a crime.

Also: Keep an eye out for the c-4 they are pre-packing into the support struts.

Pocket Ninja: Particularly if he decides that you've gotten up too quickly and gives you a second black eye for your efforts.

That's why it's usually better to stand up with a fist cocked and ready to retaliate. Bully's don't do well when you fight back.

Pocket Ninja: But then again, sometimes they're bullies because they actually are big and bad enough to kick your ass.

Sure, but you're taking the analogy too far. Terrorist groups like AQ aren't big and bad enough to take on even a small country's army let alone ours. Sure, they can bloody our nose once in a while and then run away, but cowering in fear when they do it is just an invitation for them to do it more often.

Pocket Ninja: Wait...a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theorist?

The more outlandish theories, i.e. holographic planes, UFOs, etc. are usually put online by people making fun of the true conspiracy theorists.

Mark my words, and I doubt I'm the first to say this, but Freedom Tower as it's designed will never be built. They may built something, but that monstrosity will never see the light of day.

submitter: DIAF.

/9-11 Survivor
//New Yorker
///American

Scooby's'pawn,

Terrorist groups like AQ aren't big and bad enough to take on even a small country's army let alone ours.

They're doing a bang-up job of taking us on in Iraq.

They're gaining in strength and numbers, and our military has been stretched almost to the breaking point in terms of troop fatigue and equipment loss.

Pocket Ninja: He's advancing one of the more commonly accepted ones in those particular circles, and trying to prove it "scientifically" with his intricately developed chicken wire tower.

Well, in that case he's a freaking idiot, and shouldn't be lumped in with everyone still asking the unanswered questions about 9/11.

took them long enough, any other country would have had this thing built already.

four95,

/9-11 Survivor

Were you in the towers, or did you dodge them as they came down?

SchlingFo: They're doing a bang-up job of taking us on in Iraq.

We're mainly fighting insurgents in Iraq, not Al-Qaeda.

everyone still asking the unanswered questions about 9/11.

toss me a few and i'll answer them or get you a source that does

Pocket Ninja: From what I understand of chicken wire man, he's not advancing an "outlandish theory" (as if any of them aren't). He's advancing one of the more commonly accepted ones in those particular circles, and trying to prove it "scientifically" with his intricately developed chicken wire tower.

Nothing good has ever come out of using chicken wire, also known as red neck fencing.

Pocket Ninja: What exactly are those? Is there a list?

9/11 Press for Truth

9/11 was allowed to happen. Bush knew about it.

It's also very likely that the US government was involved on some level.

Furthermore, I believe it's connected to the JFK assassination.

Have a nice day.

Howie_Feltersnatch,

We're mainly fighting insurgents in Iraq, not Al-Qaeda.

I know, but he said terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda, meaning groups with their weaponry, training, and funding.

The groups that are handing us our asses in Iraq are armed and trained no better than Al Qaeda.

9/11 was allowed to happen. Bush knew about it.

and the proof for this claim is...from some guy who told you?

misterhowl: Furthermore, I believe it's connected to the JFK assassination.

And Elvis!

IdBeCrazyIf,

Nothing good has ever come out of using chicken wire, also known as red neck fencing.

A drunken bachelor party from a few years back would beg to disagree.

Chicken wire + passed out friends + sharpies + wedding the next day = good times

chicken wire shake test? please link

Howie_Feltersnatch

The more outlandish theories, i.e. holographic planes, UFOs, etc. are usually put online by people making fun of the true conspiracy theorists.

Priceless.

You said you had some questions, so list them

yeah, make with the questions, bub

Pocket Ninja: You said you had some questions, so list them.

I never said I had any questions. Don't put any farking words in my mouth.

"The soaring tower that begins its 1,776-foot ascension today will for generations to come, stand as tangible proof of the transcendent power of freedom", Gov. George Pataki said. "The Freedom Tower will be an unmistakable symbol that this great nation will never surrender or succumb to the forces of tyranny and oppression."

Gag me with a spoon. This hollow rhetoric just makes you want to throw up. It's not even applicable to why were attacked.

The irony is that the US is sinking into tyranny and oppression by its own hand. The terrorists don't have to do a damn thing at this point. If there were no terrorists, Bushco would invent them.

TheSilverOne
They may built something, but that monstrosity will never see the light of day.

you say that like it's a bad thing ;-)
/hates the design of FT
//just put the towers back as they were

LOL @ Historical Revisionists

"Truth" movement haha. Just like the Holocaust denier 'truth' movement? And i'm going to guess that most of the '9/11 truth' people also believe:

JFK was killed by the CIA
The Moon landings were fake
The government has captured UFO's

You see, these people, before knowing *any* facts, have a predisposition to CONSPIRACY!!!1 Then worry about 'proving' it later.

Check dis:

al-qaeda operatives hijacked 4 planes, crashing two into the WTC causing massive structural damage, 1 into the Pentagon in a glancing blow, and 1 was crashed by hijackers to prevent a passenger retaking. This is supported by such a huge amount of evidence it's plain crazy.

But come, use the same tired arguments again about how the NSA wired the WTC for destruction ( a process that takes a huge team, takes weeks, and involved ripping apart the innards of the building prior) or about the 'cruise missle' hitting the Pentagon (again, the vast majority of eyewitnesses reported it was a plane...don't forget there were intial reports of a missle causing the WTC damage by confused eyewitnesses before video footage proved otherwise). Or explain how the hundreds of people 'in' on the conspiracy have kept quiet (this would include Republicans and Democrats, Police, Fire Fighters, EMT's, FAA investigators, coroners, etc etc).

The only case you *might* make is that certain people knew it was going to happen and didn't stop it. Which would just be a wild accusation, since no proof of such exists.

I never said I had any questions

well, then, what are your concerns about 9/11, what do you feel needs to be resolved to your satisfaction

L.Darte: The irony is that the US is sinking into tyranny and oppression by its own hand. The terrorists don't have to do a damn thing at this point. If there were no terrorists, Bushco would invent them.

Exactly.

NYRBill: just put the towers back as they were

Seconded.

Chicken wire test:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=12 5&topic_id=56836&mesg_id=56836

albo and the proof for this claim is...from some guy who told you?

I believe he was being facetious.