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(CNN)   Dozens poisoned after using generators, charcoal grills for warmth   ( cnn.com) divider line
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2006-12-18 12:04:56 PM  
I have done way more damage to myself and my stuff with those pesky electrical cord/outlet combinations than anything else ever. I guess I always had a thing for sparks and smoke or something. mmmmmm I can smell ozone just thinking about it.

Old lamp cords should have warnings on them so that kids who use them like I used them can also be called stupid if they die from it. I bet you didn't know that you can plug virtually anything into an outlet if you just have a cord to attach to said item somehow.
Let's see....hook this here...and that over here....READY!...SET!...PLUG!!!. 90% of the time, just nothing happens, but when you hit that magical combination of the right connection....pure exhilaration and excitement!!
 
2006-12-18 12:07:55 PM  
Oddly, Richard Dawkins fails to mention such instances in The God Deluision, but I have a feeling Doug Adams is looking down and laughing, nonetheless.
 
2006-12-18 12:08:35 PM  
Well... Looking down from his spaceship.

/I don't believe in Heaven. . . I just slip into the cliche now and again.
 
2006-12-18 12:33:13 PM  
I would like to be the 104th to say..

Thank you Charles Darwin.
 
2006-12-18 12:35:12 PM  
Yup.

Heaters and grills, meh buh meep meep blah, Doug Adams.
 
2006-12-18 12:37:52 PM  
I live in the Seattle area, was without power for 36 hours, and I think you all are exaggerating the dangers of the cold. The temperature in my home didn't drop below 40 degrees, I'm sure, and I was able to keep myself warm through the sophisticated and clever plan of wearing a coat. Beneath which I was wearing jeans and a short sleeved shirt. I considered wearing 2 shirts instead of just the one, but didn't get around to it.

At night, when the temperature was at its lowest, I kept myself warm by sleeping in a bed with my usual blankets over me, still wearing the coat. If a coat and the usual blankets on my bed was all it took, then people weren't in danger of getting frostbite or freezing to death or any such thing.
 
2006-12-18 12:44:17 PM  
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Charles wants a tall skinny mocha, half-caff with whip.
 
2006-12-18 01:08:50 PM  
It was below freezing in my house last night. Try changing clothes for work in freezing air, and putting on freezing clothes. I drove around in my truck for awhile just to warm up again. Ugh.
 
2006-12-18 01:09:43 PM  
I guess these people didn't know that most gas stoves, even those without pilot lights, can be lit with a match.

/btdt
//yet another reason why electric stoves are the sux0rs
 
2006-12-18 01:32:45 PM  
the win goes to the guy whose sole concern is the other guy who removes warning labels.

"I can't BELIEVE that!!! Have you no ETHICS??????"

/i'd write in their names . . . but you know who you are
//thanks for the entertainment
 
2006-12-18 01:42:34 PM  
It is warm and toasty in here. I am so smart and superior. Are you proud of me, dead Mr. dead Darwin? Because that means a lot, in the grand scheme of things.
 
2006-12-18 01:44:24 PM  
We were without power for three days, and even with a fireplace it was farking freezing in my place. All our cooking was done on our gas grill or our Coleman stove - OUTSIDE. At night my wife, daughter, and I slept in the same bed to stay warm, and we were pretty comfortable. We had to make long treks to find gas and firewood, so the car helped keep us warm. I mean, the whole thing sucked but it wasn't a catastrophe. Yes, it got cold at night but when I lived in the northeast I lost power for a week when the temperature hovered around 5° during the day and much colder at night. This was downright balmy compared to that.
 
2006-12-18 01:49:21 PM  
"when I lived in the northeast I lost power for a week when the temperature hovered around 5° during the day and much colder at night. This was downright balmy compared to that".

Exactly. It was about 35 to 45 degrees out, nobody's freezing to death at that temperature unless they really try hard to do so or unless they have failed to master coat/blanket technology.
 
IP [TotalFark]
2006-12-18 01:59:22 PM  
pitydafoo: Ditto to all of that. We live on the Sammamish Plateau and went 60 hours without power. We weren't freezing to death but it was damn uncomfortable with only one weenie fireplace (Woodburning! So I stayed awake all Saturday night feeding it wood.). It was teh suck.
 
2006-12-18 02:27:55 PM  
hotter than the ads: the win goes to the guy whose sole concern is the other guy who removes warning labels.

"I can't BELIEVE that!!! Have you no ETHICS??????"


That would be me. Thanks!
 
2006-12-18 02:28:41 PM  
(multiple exclamation points removed)
 
2006-12-18 02:46:08 PM  
Nogami: If you're burning anything inside your house (including a stove/fireplace), you should be investing in a cheap ($30 or so) carbon monoxide detector with a battery-backup. Cheap insurance.

We did, but the damn thing started going off every time we fired up the generator indoors. It was loud. In the end we had to take the battery out of it.
 
2006-12-18 02:49:25 PM  
canyoneer

When are these moron utilities in the tree-rich parts of America going to begin burying their electric lines? I can see why it doesn't make sense to bury high-voltage transmission lines, but the little feeders from sub-station to end-user? Why not?


It's expensive. They're stupid monopolies.
 
2006-12-18 02:49:35 PM  
Oznog

Nogami:
If you're burning anything inside your house (including a stove/fireplace), you should be investing in a cheap ($30 or so) carbon monoxide detector with a battery-backup. Cheap insurance.

We did, but the damn thing started going off every time we fired up the generator indoors. It was loud. In the end we had to take the battery out of it.

I farted when I lauged.
 
2006-12-18 02:53:35 PM  
someone earlier asked:

Do gas heaters emit CO too?

YES(pops)
 
2006-12-18 03:16:19 PM  
JakeElwood

i can't describe how delighted i am to find a sense of moral outrage about the underserved issue of warning labels alive and well.

you, sir, are a hero, and i take my hat off to you.
 
2006-12-18 03:23:19 PM  
hotter than the ads: i can't describe how delighted i am to find a sense of moral outrage about the underserved issue of warning labels alive and well.

you, sir, are a hero, and i take my hat off to you.


Thank you so very, very much for gaining a vague understanding of what I was trying to say in my posts. Perhaps some day we can convince the world of what worthless scraps of paper those labels really are. All of us, every one, deserve a fair chance to DIAF. I know I would have preferred if the gas fireplace I just put in didn't have any annoying scraps of plastic attached to it, but what are you gonna do?
 
2006-12-18 03:37:41 PM  
JakeElwood
I know I would have preferred if the gas fireplace I just put in didn't have any annoying scraps of plastic attached to it, but what are you gonna do?

You didn't remove them? Are you the same guy that still has the stickers on his new windows years after they are installed?
 
2006-12-18 03:40:19 PM  
Krazymutz: You didn't remove them? Are you the same guy that still has the stickers on his new windows years after they are installed?

No, but I left that clear plastic protector thing on my alarm clock so it always says "12:00" day or night. I wouldn't want to scratch the plastic.

Ironically, the plastic safety warning tags on the fireplace melted and filled the whole house with choking, acrid smoke. Where is your safety NOW?
 
2006-12-18 03:41:02 PM  
Geez, I remember about a year ago, something like this got the Florida Tag. Are all these folk dying up Washington way, Florida transplants?
 
2006-12-18 04:00:51 PM  
JakeElwood

No, but I left that clear plastic protector thing on my alarm clock so it always says "12:00" day or night. I wouldn't want to scratch the plastic.


Those things trip me up sometimes. They don't always have printing on them you know. You have no idea how upset I was when I found out my cell phone had a clear plastic sticky thing on the screen...2 weeks after I got it!!
 
2006-12-18 04:09:18 PM  
Krazymutz: Those things trip me up sometimes. They don't always have printing on them you know. You have no idea how upset I was when I found out my cell phone had a clear plastic sticky thing on the screen...2 weeks after I got it!!

Ha - cell phwn3d! (cellophwn3d?) Speaking of things like that, I bought a $20 cover for my ipod before I realized that a $0.003 piece of clear packing tape did the job better. Who knew?
 
2006-12-18 04:09:45 PM  
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2006-12-18 04:23:24 PM  
JakeElwood
I bought a $20 cover for my ipod before I realized that a $0.003 piece of clear packing tape did the job better. Who knew?


I think the people who make the $20 ipod cover knew.
 
2006-12-18 04:29:44 PM  
Good luck with the heat NW'rs. Send that storm this way with some snow. My snowmobile isn't getting any use. 60 degrees in December is just silly. Don't get me started....gotta go.
 
2006-12-18 04:33:22 PM  
I have this theory based on absolutely nothing at all that one of the things contributing to this is these homes are very well sealed. Maybe it's not so much ignorance or stupidity, but it's possible these people have used this in the past to get warm, but the homes they were heated leaked like a sieve and they never got ill-effects from the CO.
 
2006-12-18 04:38:13 PM  
Did anyone mention Weird Al's parents yet?
 
2006-12-18 07:30:59 PM  
Nogami: If you're burning anything inside your house (including a stove/fireplace), you should be investing in a cheap ($30 or so) carbon monoxide detector with a battery-backup. Cheap insurance.

We did, but the damn thing started going off every time we fired up the generator indoors. It was loud. In the end we had to take the battery out of it.

Wow, I actually teared up a little from laughing when I read that...hilarious
 
2006-12-18 08:30:12 PM  
Most of the people who brought charcoal grills inside and suffered poisoning were Somalian immigrants in a large area of apartment complexes in Kent (not a wealthy area, not nice complexes). A good portion can't read English, and alot just saw it as a way to warm their children. So, save the redneck jokes.

And, as someone else mentioned, there were leakages of exhaust into houses of people with the generator outside.

I think to myself, yes these people have done something stupid. But then I think, almost all of the people who were poisoned were children. And their parents don't know any better. There are alot of people here freezing in their houses. My boss still doesn't have power and she has structural damage and a gap in her house from a tree falling on her bedroom. She and her daughter are alone at home trying to get by without even a generator. That just sucks. I'm glad I didn't lose power.
 
2006-12-18 10:01:01 PM  
At last check their was a shiatload of homeless people sleeping *outside* in downtown Seattle (tent city under I-5 across from the jailhouse). None of them have frozen to death lately (at least not in a newsworthy way). I think those people are more worried about the drug dealers from Yesler Terrace coming over to collect on their debts than they are about the weather. So buck up, bundle up and get over it! If three days without power is enough to break you then you will be farked if we ever have our long overdue earthquake or Mt. Rainer decides to erupt.
 
2006-12-19 01:32:28 AM  
Somewhat on-topic:

One of the best generators I've found is the Honda EU1000i. Moderately expensive (about $600-$700, depending on where you shop), it provides 1000 watts of power through a sine wave inverter, which provides computer-safe power that's comparable to (if not better than) utility power.

Fantastic for computers (useful for power outages of a few hours, which I occasionally get), and for running the sump pump to keep the water out of the basement in my old house outside of San Francsico. It's quiet, efficient (it has the Eco-Throttle feature, where the motor spins only fast enough to generate power for the load, thus saving gas and staying quiet), and works quite well.

Maintenance is easy, and Honda's engineers did a good job designing the oil fill/drain port and the channel where one can pour dirty oil out into a catchbasin (my Coleman generator made it tough to change the oil). Well worth the money.

Also, for those of you who have generators -- be sure to change your generator's oil, keep extra spark plugs on hand, and make sure the gasoline isn't gumming up the engine (store the generators without gas in the tank, and use Sta-Bil stabilizer in the fuel cans to preserve the gas). A bit of preventative maintenance keeps them running a lot smoother over time.
 
2006-12-19 05:13:56 AM  
We were without power for 65 hours. Sucked since I'm 37 weeks pregnant and got a cold the morning of the storm. Still, there's a lot of people out here without electricity.

canyoneer
When are these moron utilities in the tree-rich parts of America going to begin burying their electric lines? I can see why it doesn't make sense to bury high-voltage transmission lines, but the little feeders from sub-station to end-user? Why not?

It comes down to money and unions. It's more expensive to bury the lines. And what sort of job security is there for the workers if the powerlines are less suseptible to failure?

ScottMpls
It'll be a complete Fark story when the lawyers start trolling for clients among these idiots.

Funny you should say that...
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/story/6283379p-5481013c.html
 
2006-12-19 09:12:17 AM  
unicycle: Most of the people who brought charcoal grills inside and suffered poisoning were Somalian immigrants in a large area of apartment complexes in Kent (not a wealthy area, not nice complexes). A good portion can't read English, and alot just saw it as a way to warm their children.

Well then, the good news is that the survivors can sue the grill manufacturers for not having the warning label in their language! Everybody wins!
 
2006-12-19 11:12:33 AM  
im in ur garage stealin ur labelz
 
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