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(Some Guy)   British Airways warned that if it lets employees wear small crosses, it would have to allow other religious ornaments, like New Age crystals, FSM pins or the heads of freshly-slaughtered goats on a rope or some damn thing   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 111
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2006-12-15 07:10:04 AM
this is such a nonissue i can't believe it's still being discussed. the woman is a whiny biatch, and BA is right. get over it.
 
2006-12-15 07:23:35 AM
Rowlf: Best solution? Ban all religious symbols.

In that case, shirts and bras are required as part of my religion. If you plan to ban all religious symbols, you must also ban shirts and bras. Oh - and not only is nobody allowed to wear shirts, but everyone in our religion is given a gun, in a special secret ceremony (that you infidels can't find documentation of any kind on, because you are infidels), and therefore you must allow us to carry the gun anywhere we want, including airplanes. After all, it wouldn't be fair to infringe on our religious rights.

Comparing wearing a cross, pentagram, star of davids, crystals, etc, with carrying a knife is bullshiat. This is basic common sense. And claiming that anything that might be considered a religious symbol should be banned leads to someone like me claiming that since my religion belives shirts are evil, nobody can wear shirts.

At some point, you have to apply some common sense.

Seriously - let people do what they want, so long as nobody gets hurt, use some common sense, and if they say "I want to bring a weapon on board because my religion said I should" then tell them to fark off.

And if you are an old lady, like this one, and they tell you "Don't do that", then either take the damn thing off or wear a longer chain so it doesn't show. She's just looking for attention and hoping for a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

desolationrow: Sikhs can't cut their hair, the turbans make it possible to live in that lifestyle. They're not doing it to show anyone anything, or prove a point to anyone, or advertise their faith. It's a functional piece of clothing.

I don't cut my hair, either. (I don't want to get technical, but feel free to google for "hippy".) But I don't have to wear any special headgear to point out that I don't cut my hair, and I don't scream about having a religious right to not cut my hair. If someone doesn't want to hire me because I have long hair, I'm fine with that. Personally, I think that anyone hiring me for my looks is an idiot anyway, and I don't want to work for idiots.

Sikhs not cutting their hair, wearing turbans to cover their hair, etc, are doing at least as much to advertise their faith as a christian wearing a cross. Employers need to have a right to decide what they will accept, and what they want. And if your religious beliefs piss off everyone that you would like to work for, then maybe you should consider another religion, instead of screaming "Oh My God, I'm Oppressed!".

I don't care much for religion, but I have no problem with wearing "whatever" on a chain around your neck. That doesn't mean I would let them bring weapons on board, and I think the argument that you can't stop them from bringing weapons if you allow any other signs of your faith to be absurd.
 
2006-12-15 08:22:05 AM
So, does this mean I can't wear a giant silver telescope charm around my neck? Well damn, just damn!
 
2006-12-15 08:35:46 AM
On the one hand, a company has the right to mandate a uniform with no personal decoration.

On the other hand being a total secular d__head is terrible for moral and your employees will work less efficiently which does not protect and increase shareholder value.

If the customers have a problem with your employees wearing religious symbols then it is the customer who should feel shame. If we tolerate discrimination against personal religion then to be fair we must tolerate discrimination for any personal factor, such as race, sexual preference, hair color, accent, national origin, crooked teeth, big ears, etc.....Discrimination is either good or bad, you cant split hairs on the issue.

Now a liberal will try to tell you that discriminating against a person of color is bad, but discriminating against a christian is good. That is primarily because persons of color vote for liberals and christians dont. They will cloak the argument in secularist namby-pamby, i.e. people are offended by religious symbols.....well im assuming that a big old racist is offended by people of color. Attributing different values to each instance is hypocrisy, prejudice is either good or bad.
 
2006-12-15 08:52:44 AM
Millions have been slaughtered in the name of Jesus.

Not really.
Quite a few, just not up in the millions.

/Someone tried to tell me yesterday that millions of people were killed in the inquisition
//Pretty sure that would have been most of the population of Europe at the time
///slashie
 
2006-12-15 09:12:55 AM
2006-12-14 07:24:56 PM FarkmeBlind

No, no, no.

Wolfman's got nards.
 
2006-12-15 12:09:15 PM
archichris

If the customers have a problem with your employees wearing religious symbols then it is the customer who should feel shame. If we tolerate discrimination against personal religion then to be fair we must tolerate discrimination for any personal factor, such as race, sexual preference, hair color, accent, national origin, crooked teeth, big ears, etc.....Discrimination is either good or bad, you cant split hairs on the issue.

Get off your cross. Telling fundie-lady she can't wear her cross while she is at work wearing the exact same uniform as everybody else who are also not allowed jewelry is not "discrimination." Once again, the classic persecution complex at work.
 
2006-12-15 02:57:04 PM
kb7rky: Feh...I carry a piece of Buster's legbone everywhere I go. It comes in really handy for beating the crap out of non-believers.

/yes, THAT Buster


I salute you sir!
 
2006-12-15 03:49:27 PM
She was never told she couldn't wear a cross, only that if she did it had to remain under her clothing. She can still wear a cross if she wants to.
 
2006-12-15 04:26:05 PM
Has anyone else noticed that religions are a gigantic pain in the ass?
 
2006-12-15 08:37:15 PM
Brick top:
"Millions have been slaughtered in the name of Jesus.

Not really.
Quite a few, just not up in the millions.

/Someone tried to tell me yesterday that millions of people were killed in the inquisition
//Pretty sure that would have been most of the population of Europe at the time
///slashie"

estimated 3 million people killed in the 30 years war(s) alone... the one that split protestant from catholics. 2 million or more in the French Religion Wars.

There's millions right there, and we haven't even started with the inquisition, crusades, and the genocides in the new world.
 
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