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2006-12-06 11:16:38 PM  
1. This writer is a farking moron.
2. The writers have said half of those will be known next year.
3. This list has been done by better men.
 
2006-12-06 11:34:52 PM  
I agree with you there Heroic. I mean no one is complaining how the Harry Potter series has a slew of unanswerd questions going into the final book, be patient, most of the answers will be answered because most of the mysteries have a similar answer on Lost.
 
2006-12-07 12:09:31 AM  
What HP said
 
2006-12-07 01:22:38 AM  
8. The Island's healing powers. They work for Locke and Rose, but not Ben? Is it because he's lived on the Island all his life? Do the "healing powers" discriminate? Were they effected by the Hatch blast?

Ben lives on the other island, dumbass
 
2006-12-07 01:32:36 AM  
That list is bogus without the answer to why there is a CITY on the other island, with a zoo and all. And a fairly modern city, not like Atlantis or Mu.


P.S. That scene in which the doctor guy closed the door against an onrushing wall of water that was supposed to flood the whole place and drown everyone? Bo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-gus.

Show has jumped the Killer Whale pool, leaving the shark far behind.
 
2006-12-07 01:43:00 AM  
And what about Scarecrow's brain???
 
2006-12-07 02:00:56 AM  
Tatsuma: Ben lives on the other island, dumbass

Says who? Just because the Hydra is there, doesn't mean that their village is also there.
 
2006-12-07 02:01:08 AM  
Aaargh. I've seen every episode. I'm considering not watching anymore. It's become like the X-files post-Mulder. Best point in this list is Walt. Why was Walt so important? I also tend to think the writers were "winging" it.
 
2006-12-07 02:24:25 AM  
clj124: I mean no one is complaining how the Harry Potter series has a slew of unanswerd questions going into the final book

AAAARGH IS SNAPE EVIL?
IS SO-AND-SO DEAD?
IS HERMIONE LEGAL YET??????@

unto_others: I also tend to think the writers were "winging" it.

They've admitted that.
 
2006-12-07 03:17:22 AM  
I stopped watching half way through S2. It just got boring.

When is BSG back on?
 
2006-12-07 04:00:29 AM  
Arbitrator: IS HERMIONE LEGAL YET?

That's the one that's got me on the edge of my seat.
 
2006-12-07 07:44:47 AM  
Is Claire Jack's half sister?

One thing that always pissed me off about that show is this: Charlie was in the tail section of the plane when it landed on the island, but in the first episode, you clearly see him run up to the bathroom in first class to hide his stash, then return to a seat in first class. Yet later on in the same episode, he has to go back to the front of the plane to retrieve his stash.
 
2006-12-07 07:56:47 AM  
The Claire-Jack relationship always bugged me. I thought they were then my sister pointed out that they might be, so now I've gotta know.

Another thing I wanna know is how evil is Juliette. My sister thinks she could be "a good person" and want to get away from Ben, I however think she's even more evil than him.
 
2006-12-07 08:52:22 AM  
I don't think they have sloved the American Idol mystery. 10pm when the show returns? WTF?
 
2006-12-07 09:09:50 AM  
Arbitrator: They've admitted that.

I challenge you to find a quote to that effect.

It's very sad that people feel they need to create a FUD for a TV show.

Jamdug!: One thing that always pissed me off about that show is this: Charlie was in the tail section of the plane when it landed on the island, but in the first episode, you clearly see him run up to the bathroom in first class to hide his stash, then return to a seat in first class. Yet later on in the same episode, he has to go back to the front of the plane to retrieve his stash.

Huh? Want to try again?
 
2006-12-07 09:28:54 AM  
The numbers have been explained. The writers farked up by not being absolutely clear that it was cannon.

Aw fark it, those who don't like it will biatch over not watching. That's what I don't get -- just don't watch it then, quit beating it senseless in the media all the time, some of us still enjoy it.
 
2006-12-07 09:41:10 AM  
The issue with Walt - the real child grew up - he's twelve, nearly thirteen now, and due to the slow pace of the show's timeline (only about three months at this point) and his real age, he's simply too old to have a recurring presence on the show while lookingl like a ten-year-old. I assume he and his father will be written off the show (for good) in the Spring "season."

Third Day Mark: Another thing I wanna know is how evil is Juliette. My sister thinks she could be "a good person" and want to get away from Ben, I however think she's even more evil than him.

Agreed. I see this as a powerplay for control of the Others, with Jack, Sawyer and Kate as pawns in their game.
 
2006-12-07 10:05:45 AM  
Where are people getting this Claire-Jack thing? Is that from the "Lost Experience" or whatever that other thing was that wasn't the TV show, or have I missed something heinously?
 
2006-12-07 10:30:24 AM  
Tatsuma
Ben lives on the other island, dumbass

If you go to the Lost-nerd websites, just about everyone agrees that "Otherville" (where the others were when they saw the plane crash, where Juliette held the book club) is on the main island, and that the Hydra station where Jack, Sawyer and slut *er* Kate are held is on the other island.

My question is, how did the Others get Jack et. al to the Hydra station without them realizing they were being transported to a separate island?
 
2006-12-07 10:35:11 AM  
Gavin

In the Season 2 episode "Two For the Road" you see Jack's father Christian in Australia fighting with a blonde woman and he is demanding to see his daughter, which implies that perhaps Claire is his daughter.
 
2006-12-07 10:37:18 AM  
Karma Chameleon

Hmmm, check, thanks very much! Will be interseting to see how that plays out.
 
2006-12-07 10:43:06 AM  
I love Lost...love it love it love it! I will not stop watching no matter how clandestine or labrynthine the plot becomes, this show is not for the casual viewer and any one who gets frustrated or impatient with the pace or how miserly the answers to the BIG QUESTIONS are meted out shouldn't be watching either. This show is not about instant gratification, it's a puzzle, a riddle, an enigma all twisting in on itself. This show is Zen, just enjoy it when you have the chance and don't let it worry you if you never get the answers you want, I never thought that was what the show was about anyway. The answers will come when they come and if they nevere do, well there are mysteries in real life we never get the answers to but we don't end our lives in frustration, we enjoy our lives for what we have.
 
2006-12-07 11:06:26 AM  
Jakevol2

I think there's a difference between "strange plot" and "crappy plot". The writers are dangerously approaching the latter.
 
2006-12-07 11:11:33 AM  
GavinTheAlmighty


Give me some examples of what you mean by crappy plot and lets discuss them.
 
2006-12-07 11:26:35 AM  
Jakevol2

This is not necessarily a plot line yet, but for me, I hate the introduction of Paulo and Nikki. They act stupid, ask stupid questions, and make others around them stupid (i.e. Locke. Hopefully they are getting camera time in order to be killed off, not just to "dumb it down" for new viewers.
 
2006-12-07 11:31:00 AM  
I see Paulo and Nikki kinda like the Rosecrantz and Guilderstern of the show, so I am not hating them yet.
 
2006-12-07 11:46:04 AM  
here's a few simple solutions for some of those mysteries that cant be "solved"

10. The numbers - 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. The show's creators have outright admitted that they don't really know what the significance of Hurley's numbers are. The Lost Experience reveals that they're the core numerical values of the Valenzetti Equation - a formula created to predict the world's end. Does this explain why they make an excellent Lotto choice, or why they mystically appear everywhere in the show? Nope.

Who cares why they appear here and there? Seriously. Was it a mystery in the x-files when all the clocks would show a cast member's birthdate? These things are usually called easter eggs.


9. The outside world. If the Others are so well-informed of what is going on in the outside world and know how to reach it, than why is Ben at the mercy of Jack to remove his spinal tumor?

Maybe Ben Cant leave the island

8. The Island's healing powers. They work for Locke and Rose, but not Ben? Is it because he's lived on the Island all his life? Do the "healing powers" discriminate? Were they effected by the Hatch blast?

Notice that Locke and Rose live on a different island than the Others? You do watch the show right?

7. The black smoke. I've heard the theory that the cloud is a collection of thousands of nanomachines, but I'm not buying it. I know that the actor wanted off the show to make movies, but seriously, smoke, why kill the second season's most compelling and seemingly most repentant character?

What exactly are you asking here?

6. Jacob's list. Who's been naughty and who's been nice? Who's on the list, and why are the Others so freaking judgmental anyway?

Why would this be so hard to explain?

5. Charlie's religious visions. Readers, you'll have to remind me. Did we ever get a satisfying reason for why Charlie had a fit of religious dreams and tried to baptize Aaron?

My guess was the heroin but that's just me.

4. Artificial limbs and glass eye. This one was a toss up between Bad Twin and the limbs, but I decided to go with the limbs. When the orientation film was first shown, the show's creators told fans to take note of the doctor's fake arm. We also know that there's a one-eyed man running around the Island. We saw him on the Pearl Station monitor. Why all the fake parts? Is the eye thing even connected to the arm thing? Did the writer's forget about the fake limb clue?

hmmm, correct me if I'm wrong but if #4 on your list was a tossup between the limbs and Bad Twin, shouldnt Bad Twin also be on your list? Just saying

3. Walt's powers. What happened to Walt? Where is he now? How could the Others let go of someone who seemed so precious in exchange for Jack, Sawyer and Kate. We were asked to invest so much emotionally in Walt - particularly at the end of the first season. Seeing someone's son ripped away from him was cruel. Not telling us the full story about his experience and the nature of his powers was even crueler.

Have you seen Walt off the island? Who's to say that he's not on the 2nd island?

2.Goodness. The Others' concept of being the "good" guys is pretty f-ed up. What's frustrating to me every week is that Jack, Sawyer or Kate just don't ask - "Why are you doing this to us?" As far as they know, they are innocents who didn't ask to crash and burn onto the Others' precious Island. Why make with the killing, forced labor, kidnapping? Are the Others victimized lab rats or trying to save the world? Help us out here because Ben and company aren't engendering any sympathy from this viewer.

You're not suppose to have sympathy for the bad guys...even if they think they that are the good guys, Germans also tought they were the good guys during WW2, you have sympathy for them?

1. How long can this keep going on? Lost's ratings are starting to slip. While I would certainly hate for the show to be forced into an Alias or Veronica Mars strategy, simplifying the episodes for newcomers, it seems like giving Lost an end date would make sense - don't let it end prematurely, but don't let it play past its prime for the sake of advertising dollars. There's obviously a whole lot of story to be told, but what a little television miracle it would be to let that story unfold organically for as long a time or as short a time as it needed to.

this one has already been answered by the producers, they are looking at 5 years max then maybe a movie.

The ironic part about this article is that he fails to actually mention the one mystery that I dont think they will be able to solve: what's up with the day/night switches from scene to scene?
 
2006-12-07 11:58:37 AM  
10. Who gives a shiat? Do you want some intricate explanaition as to the meaning of the numbers? You just asked to make everything simplified - if the writers made the meaning intricate like Jack's/Kate's/Sawyer's/etc. birthdays in backwards order then that would be too complicated. Just deal with the explanation and know that the numbers are important.

9. I think the Others have made it pretty obvious that they do not want to communicate with the outside world - sure they are up on current events, but that doesn't mean that they want to go to the outside world. I'm sure we'll find out in the later episodes as to why they despise it as they do.

8. Either Ben is on the other island, or the X-ray that Jack saw was a fake made by Juliet so that Jack would operate on Ben and either kill him or make it so Ben was powerless (I personally like my second explanation).

7. We will probably never see the black smoke again because both times that we witnessed it was with Mr. Echo and now he is dead. I believe that it is something closely tied to Mr. Echo, but I am hopefully wrong because I would like to find out more.

6. You will find out a lot in the upcoming episodes, I am sure.

5. What more explanation do you want? That he used to be an altar boy? Just let it go...

4. Just a really dumb thing to want to know.

3. Walt has no powers, he was obviously a tool for the others to get at Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. If he does have powers it is just the power to mesmerize grown adults that haven't seen an innocent child for many years.

2. Ever hear of a cult? The idea of being 'good' is all relative.

1. Lost can go on as long as people that own Nielsen boxes keep watching it...
 
2006-12-07 12:39:47 PM  
Jakevol2

My opinion of a crappy plot is unfortunately just my opinion. I don't think there's much to discuss outside of what I personally think is dumb. I personally preferred the show when it was a survival story with mystery - a few questions to be answered. The entire show could have been a two-season miniseries to me and it would have been much better. Of course, that's just personal preference.

The whole thing would be a twenty page paper that I just don't feel like typing out. Let's just leave it at "I don't like the direction the show has taken from what it was in the first season".
 
2006-12-07 12:42:22 PM  
The Others do not necessarily live on the island that Kate, Sawyer and Jack are on. Remember the plane crash as seen by the others in their community in the first episode of this season? Ben tells Ethan and Godwin to go to each crash site, and the way he said it made me think they would be going on foot. Also, the island that Ben showed Sawyer could be an entirely different island altogether, neither where the others live or where the survivors from the crash are.
 
2006-12-07 12:46:36 PM  
1. Put snakes on plane: I challenge you to find a quote to that effect.

You're right, they haven't said in as many words that they are "totally making it up," but comments such as these from Abrams (no pop) and the writers' admission that they don't know what the numbers mean can be taken, in my eyes, as a between-the-lines indicator that they're winging it.

The increasing randomness of the plot tells me the same thing. It's not difficult to pick up a vibe like that. This show reminds me a lot of The Pretender - it had a solid idea and some gripping mysteries, but four seasons and two TV movies later, we still didn't know anything because they kept filling in all sorts of random things.

The writers may well know the beginning and the end (I've seen them say that too), but I'll be damned if they actually know how to get from A to B.

It's very sad that people feel they need to create a FUD for a TV show.

I don't understand the acronym. FUD? Face Up Display? farked Up Disinformation?
 
2006-12-07 12:46:42 PM  
Gavin

I agree. From what I've been able to gather from various internet sources (which of course have to be taken with a grain of salt), the creators really only wanted to do one or two seasons, but ABC saw what a cash cow lost could become, so they've kind of been pressuring the creators to draw it out farther. I do not know the validity of this theory, but it makes sense.

I think the same thing is happening with the Sopranos. It was originally supposed to be 4 or 5 seasons and they've turned it into a long drawn out soap opera in which every new episode raises more questions and provides little to no answers.

/still love both shows
 
2006-12-07 01:28:49 PM  
I have decided that today's Lost thread needs more Claire.

That is all.
 
2006-12-07 02:01:51 PM  
Here you go Drone1047

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2006-12-07 02:15:04 PM  
Noooooooooooooooooo!1111!
 
2006-12-07 02:39:59 PM  
A wizard did it.
 
2006-12-07 06:14:04 PM  
that picture will definately make its rounds at work tomorrow, thanks.
 
2006-12-07 07:40:16 PM  
2006-12-07 10:43:06 AM Jakevol2


I love Lost...love it love it love it! I will not stop watching no matter how clandestine or labrynthine the plot becomes, this show is not for the casual viewer and any one who gets frustrated or impatient with the pace or how miserly the answers to the BIG QUESTIONS are meted out shouldn't be watching either


well then that is sort of a double edge sword, the more viewers you weed out, the less ratings, the less advertisers want to put into the show, and then you get an early demise...

here's my beef:
lost season one: amazing, quite possibly one of the greatest first seasons in american television history
lost season two: who the fark knows, you could tell the writers were not on the same page as season one, or if they were even the same writers... stopped watching at this point
lost season 3: seems to have found what its lost, but at this point it may have lost too many viewers to recover...

/24 greatest show on television
//the wire most well written show and realistic drama on tv
///lost, somewhere in the top 100 shows on now...
 
2006-12-07 08:48:54 PM  
CheekyMunky: Arbitrator: IS HERMIONE LEGAL YET?

That's the one that's got me on the edge of my seat.


Emma Watson was born on April 15, 1990- and is 16 years old. She's been legal in the Philippines for 4 years, Nigeria for 3 years, and in Albania, Iceland, and Togo for 2 years. Presently she's legal in about 1/2 of U.S. states.

The more you know...
 
2006-12-08 01:45:11 AM  
Arbitrator: You're right, they haven't said in as many words that they are "totally making it up," but comments such as these from Abrams (no pop) and the writers' admission that they don't know what the numbers mean can be taken, in my eyes, as a between-the-lines indicator that they're winging it.

You mean this? "I would be an absolute liar if I said every single thing was planned out from the beginning." That's a far cry from 'winging it'.

The writers have not said anything about not knowing about the numbers. The background on them has already been given.
 
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