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(Reuters)   Radio host Jerry Klein staged a hoax on the air and suggested that all Muslims in the United States should be identified with a crescent-shape tattoo or a distinctive arm band. Many xenophobes called in and actually agreed with his statement   (today.reuters.com) divider line 572
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2006-12-02 07:28:05 PM
vertigo32 [TotalFark]

Obdicut: That is the similarity between what we're doing to Muslims now and what happened to us in German, pre-war-- a stripping of dignity.

Have people realized that even the Nazis didn't just start marching the Jews off one morning...


No, they started with murdering Jews in the streets in Bavaria and organizing a huge force of storm troopers to do it. That was when they were still a small party in one German state.
 
2006-12-02 07:28:23 PM
Um, sure, Israel has a right to exist. Somewhere else. The Europeans took Muslim land and just gave it to the Jews. Sound fair for Muslims? Why couldn't the Europeans give some of their own land?
 
2006-12-02 07:28:33 PM
"I can't believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said," he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland

And there's your answer.

/Yes, Northern Virginia is better, but it is still Virginia.
//Capital of the Confederacy!
 
2006-12-02 07:29:07 PM
the_only_right_way: Sound fair for Muslims?

Well, they were residing "in a terrorist configuration". ;-)
 
2006-12-02 07:29:33 PM
the_only_right_way: Sound fair for Muslims? Why couldn't the Europeans give some of their own land?

I agree. All western religions have a claim in Palestine, why should the Jews get it?
 
2006-12-02 07:29:53 PM
2006-12-02 07:28:23 PM the_only_right_way

Um, sure, Israel has a right to exist. Somewhere else. The Europeans took Muslim land and just gave it to the Jews. Sound fair for Muslims? Why couldn't the Europeans give some of their own land?


I have always believed that the solution to the problems of the middle east is to give the Palestinians Northern Maine. It's huge, it's nice, no one's using it.
 
2006-12-02 07:30:53 PM
Will_Tweak_For_Meth: No, they started with murdering Jews in the streets in Bavaria and organizing a huge force of storm troopers to do it. That was when they were still a small party in one German state.

I can see Texas doing that.
 
2006-12-02 07:30:54 PM
the_only_right_way: Israel has a right to exist. Somewhere else. The Europeans took Muslim land and just gave it to the Jews. Sound fair for Muslims? Why couldn't the Europeans give some of their own land?

Uh oh. Here we go...to the moon, Alice!
 
2006-12-02 07:30:58 PM
KazamaSmokers: It's huge, it's nice, no one's using it.

Sandy Koufax wants a word with you.
 
2006-12-02 07:32:33 PM
Oh, no offence, Tatsuma if you read that, being a zionist and all. I think that Jerusalem should be open to all religions, and not considered part of any country, especially a religious-based one.
 
2006-12-02 07:33:03 PM
2006-12-02 07:30:53 PM zabdorff

I can see Texas doing that.



Oh SNAP!
 
2006-12-02 07:34:10 PM
"I like Jebusites, personally."

That one's already taken. Refers to the native people of Jebus, later conquered by the Israelites and renamed Jerusalem.
 
2006-12-02 07:34:27 PM
2006-12-02 07:32:33 PM Notalking_justhead

Oh, no offence, Tatsuma if you read that, being a zionist and all. I think that Jerusalem should be open to all religions, and not considered part of any country, especially a religious-based one.


That's true. I'm guessing there might be fewer problems if Jerusalem was adminstered by the security council as a trusteeship.
 
2006-12-02 07:35:18 PM
marsupial: That one's already taken. Refers to the native people of Jebus, later conquered by the Israelites and renamed Jerusalem.

Why isn't is Jebusalem?
 
2006-12-02 07:35:57 PM
KazamaSmokers

That's true. I'm guessing there might be fewer problems if Jerusalem was adminstered by the security council as a trusteeship

Hell, most Muslims would be happy if Jews just weren't assholes about the place.
 
2006-12-02 07:36:33 PM
KazamaSmokers: I'm guessing there might be fewer problems if Jerusalem was adminstered by the security council as a trusteeship.

Yeah, it is a lot harder then it sounds though, because of extremists of all the religions.
Jerusalem doesn't hold significance only to religious people though, as Ironic as it may sound, Jerusalem, hell, most of Palestine can be considered the birth place of western civilization, it is probably the city with the greatest cultural significance in the entire world.
 
2006-12-02 07:38:12 PM
2006-12-02 07:35:57 PM the_only_right_way

Hell, most Muslims would be happy if Jews just weren't assholes about the place.


WELL... NOW YOU'RE GENERALIZING JUST AS BLATANTLY AS BEOSWULF whoops dammit caps
 
2006-12-02 07:38:51 PM
Kleinhundt was lying about hoaxing his listeners. How this turned into YAIT only the FSM knows
 
2006-12-02 07:39:10 PM
Notalking_justhead
Woo... wow, I wasn't sure if you were bieing funny, guess you werent.
So if you really want to scrap about being a knowledgeable catholic:

The entirety of Judaism/Christianity is a huge ripoff from Mesopotaian culture, cheifly Babylonian, which is from Babylon which is now Babil, Iraq which is currently under US oppresion.

The Flood = Gilgamesh and countless others
Jesus and Mary = Anahita, the Immaculate Virgin Mother of the Lord Mithras = Horus and Isis = Semiramis and Tammuz

Most importantly is Abraham who was a Babylonian who migrated to Egypt (pops) to spread his own faith much like Joseph Smith or any other cult leader. The only interesting thing about his faith was that it was monotheistic, but that wasn't even original in his time, just unusual. But, being a Babylonian, he was taught and still had beliefs that originated in popular Mesopotamian culture and those beliefs persisted, albeit in a modified manner

I could go for days drawing parallel after parallel to illustrate just how much of a rip and assimilation of other beliefs Judaism and Catholicism and Christianity is. At least the Catholics have the dignity of being forthright enough to include the Old testiment into their Bible where the Christians left it out.

My point is, what about Catholicism isn't filthy paganism in origin?
I mean, Abraham started it by borrowing from others, Moses popularized it and Jesus usurped it. And all that hundreds of years before Constantine and the formation of the Two Catholic Churches.

And of course, the Quaran was written well after all of this took place and BORROWED heavily from Judaism and Christianity. So heavily that for a time, the Catholics and the Muslims were even considering CONSOLIDATING to a degree.

So as a Jew, Catholic, Christian or Muslim what is it exactly that you are supposed to believe?

I for one decided to be even more fundemental and go straight to the source.
All Hail Marduk! Praise Enki! May we live under the glory of Ea!


/Marduk is so old school, man.
 
2006-12-02 07:39:27 PM
KazamaSmokers

I simply meant the persecution and unwelcome attitude of Muslims by the Jews in charge of Israel.
 
2006-12-02 07:40:24 PM
I don't know who Jerry Klien is, but frankly, this sounds like something Don and Mike would do.
 
2006-12-02 07:41:52 PM
2006-12-02 07:39:27 PM the_only_right_way

KazamaSmokers

I simply meant the persecution and unwelcome attitude of Muslims by the Jews in charge of Israel.


And I'm sure the Jews in Iran feel the same about their government... and EVERYONE feels that way about Ian Paisley... it just doesn't help matters to throw sentiments like that around.
 
2006-12-02 07:41:54 PM
Um, sure, Israel has a right to exist. Somewhere else. The Europeans took Muslim land and just gave it to the Jews. Sound fair for Muslims? Why couldn't the Europeans give some of their own land?

Is the implication here that when Muslims conquer land, it's always Muslim land, but Europeans are only allowed to conquer on a time-share basis? Because I assume no one's giving North Africa back to animists anytime soon.
 
2006-12-02 07:42:24 PM
rcain

You're real stupid. Islam took from Christianity took from Judaism because they are building on each other. They are continuations of the others. And you show ignorance by differentiating Catholics from Christians.
 
2006-12-02 07:43:14 PM
Mithrians FTW!
 
2006-12-02 07:43:41 PM
marsupial

Is the implication here that when Muslims conquer land, it's always Muslim land, but Europeans are only allowed to conquer on a time-share basis? Because I assume no one's giving North Africa back to animists anytime soon.

Then you're admitting it's legit for Muslims to re-conquer the land.
 
2006-12-02 07:43:41 PM
rcain: what about Catholicism isn't filthy paganism in origin

Christmas?
Easter?

I guess I'm not very good at this game.
 
2006-12-02 07:44:33 PM
Son of God: you show ignorance by differentiating Catholics from Christians.

So do "Christians".
 
2006-12-02 07:45:55 PM
Why isn't is Jebusalem?

Because the entrophic tendancy present in all language systems leads to liguistic drift.
 
2006-12-02 07:45:57 PM
zabdorff

So do "Christians".

"All squares are rectangles, but all rectangles are not squares."
 
2006-12-02 07:45:58 PM
rcain: I for one decided to be even more fundemental and go straight to the source.

Yeah I know all of that. I've studied ancient religions, and have decided on what I believe. Abraham left Babylonian because he didn't agree with human sacrifice and the idea of multiple Gods. So he created Judaism, with one God, he chose YWHW, the wind God, and used stories such as that of God telling (I think it was Abraham, I need to re-read my Bible) Abraham not to kill his only son.

Again, though I believe I am Catholic, and the Jesus is the son of god, I am certainly not a fundamentalist, or have any dillusions that religion isn't a human creation.
I believe in the messages given to us by Jesus, of love and brother hood, and believe that he was God incarnate, coming to Earth to give us these messages.
I don't believe in the devinity of the Pope or the roman Cahtolic church, or the Partriarchs of the protistant religions. These are just people, the Bible, just words.
The messages though, are holy, and God is real, in my book.

I was mostly kidding =) I don't really celebrate any holidays, but I like how fundies are made to think that Christmas is a Holy Holiday, when even in their books it isn't.
 
2006-12-02 07:47:20 PM
2006-12-02 07:44:33 PM zabdorff

Son of God: you show ignorance by differentiating Catholics from Christians.

So do "Christians".


"... and then all hell broke loose, Officer."
 
2006-12-02 07:48:25 PM
Rapmaster2000

Ha ha. I bet Mazhar and Ajit would never blow up your office and are probably a couple of fine citizens. But that's not what I was talking about at all. You turned "Muslims won't denounce suicide bombers" into "all Muslims are suicide bombers".

Funny though.
 
2006-12-02 07:48:49 PM
KazamaSmokers: "... and then all hell broke loose, Officer."

There are slight differences between Catholics and Christians.
I just can't remember what they are =/
 
2006-12-02 07:49:23 PM
Son of God: "All squares are rectangles, but all rectangles are not squares."

So where do hypercubes fit into all that?
 
2006-12-02 07:49:30 PM
Why are you ignoring me, Exodus2001?
 
2006-12-02 07:50:12 PM
2006-12-02 07:48:49 PM Notalking_justhead
There are slight differences between Catholics and Christians.
I just can't remember what they are =/

You're thinking of catholics and protestants... both subsets in the big christian venn diagram.
 
2006-12-02 07:50:39 PM
KazamaSmokers [TotalFark]

I don't know who Jerry Klien is, but frankly, this sounds like something Don and Mike would do.


IF they were still funny.
 
2006-12-02 07:51:37 PM
2006-12-02 07:50:39 PM Will_Tweak_For_Meth

IF they were still funny.


D&M are still funny. But Don's post-Frieda life is a train wreck waiting to happen.
 
2006-12-02 07:51:41 PM
KazamaSmokers: You're thinking of catholics and protestants... both subsets in the big christian venn diagram.

No, I know I'm not. I know the differences between Catholic and protestant. Protestants don't follow the pope and have reverands who can marry.

I think the difference between Catholics and Christians is very slim, something to do with how we perform mass.
 
2006-12-02 07:52:46 PM
the_only_right_way
Okay. I'm Islamic, I'll say it: suicide bombers and terrorism in the name of Allah suck!

Alas, you will be resoundingly ignored in this thread, because what you said isn't adequately conducive to Muslim bashing.

The Europeans took Muslim land and just gave it to the Jews. Sound fair for Muslims? Why couldn't the Europeans give some of their own land?

Anyone wanna try to answer this one?

I support Israel's right to exist in its current location, it has simply been there too long at this point. It's a fact of life, a reality that isn't going to change. But in hindsight, the handling of the Jewish resettlement could have been a lot, lot better. We essentially took advantage of the chaos of a dissolving Ottoman empire to exploit a bunch of their serfs out of their ancestral homelands. That was and is wrong, regardless of the horrors of the NAZIs or the need to establish a Jewish homeland.
 
2006-12-02 07:53:32 PM
"Then you're admitting it's legit for Muslims to re-conquer the land."

Sure. But that means it would also be alright for Christians to retake Turkey, Mongols to retake Persia, Japan to retake Manchuria, the Welsh to drive the english back to France, etc.etc. to infinity. Sounds less like a not so good idea.
 
2006-12-02 07:54:06 PM
mrexcess: That was and is wrong, regardless of the horrors of the NAZIs or the need to establish a Jewish homeland.

Don't forget that Judaism has roots in Palestine too, their ancestors were from there, and they were exiled.
 
2006-12-02 07:54:10 PM
Son of God

07:11:45 PMthe_only_right_way

Okay. I'm Islamic, I'll say it: suicide bombers and terrorism in the name of Allah suck!


See, it's not that hard! Only if the other billion would do this and Christians would stop invading other people's countries we might have a nice world to live in.
 
2006-12-02 07:54:29 PM
2006-12-02 07:51:41 PM Notalking_justhead
No, I know I'm not.



Dude... Catholics ARE Christians.
 
2006-12-02 07:54:43 PM
the_only_right_way:

I wholeheartedly agree. Why couldn't we just have given them a huge parcel of land on the border between... I dunno, Canada and Montana? Or the state of Connecticut? Honestly, would anyone miss it?
 
2006-12-02 07:55:07 PM
Seems as if some of the callers are still on the air here.
OK, and it looks as if they have divided into some sort of "camps", if you will allow the analogy.
Hmmmmmm.
I have a few questions:
1) If a bunch of people who cannot eat specific porcine flesh are in the same thread looking for chicks, they can't call it a "sausauge fest" now, can they?
2) If each camps Prophets believed in peace and tolerance, why cannot their followers?
3) Who *did* put the bomp in the bomp sha lampa bomp, who put the sham in the shama lama ding dong, and who the fark let the dogs out?
/where is your Phelps, now?
 
2006-12-02 07:55:15 PM
KazamaSmokers: Dude... Catholics ARE Christians.

Yeah I know, but not all Christians are Catholics.
 
2006-12-02 07:55:50 PM
Notalking_justhead: something to do with how we perform mass.

Son of God's post is relevant here.

Catholics = squares = rectangles
Catholics + Protestants = Christians = rectangles
Protestants != Squares.
 
2006-12-02 07:56:24 PM
vudukungfu: If each camps Prophets believed in peace and tolerance, why cannot their followers?

Because they disagree over the minute details of things their prophets said =).
 
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