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2006-12-02 10:36:05 AM  
I love how the article keeps saying mobile phone.. as if landline phones don't make a noise just as bad if not worse
 
2006-12-02 10:44:32 AM  
It's best not to surprise people with congenital heart defects.

regardless of how.

calling for 'research' into this is moronic.
 
2006-12-02 10:46:03 AM  
The Real Damien: I love how the article keeps saying mobile phone.. as if landline phones don't make a noise just as bad if not worse

Or the cat knocking over the TV.
 
2006-12-02 10:46:33 AM  
bad epinephrine! bad! bad!
 
2006-12-02 10:51:31 AM  
Asa Phelps: calling for 'research' into this is moronic.

Eh? They're suggesting that children should be screened for genetic heart defects such as Long QT syndrome.

"We want to get young people screened."

Mr Ber said: "My daughter might still be here today if this had been spotted."


Doesn't sound moronic to me.
 
2006-12-02 11:28:22 AM  
bboy: Doesn't sound moronic to me.

Especially since if you know you have the condition and take your beta blockers you'll be fine.

I wonder what her ringtone was? Screaming? Red Alert siren? Glass breaking?
 
2006-12-02 05:20:03 PM  
::CHIRP:: WHERE YOU AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH


/a man can dream
 
2006-12-02 05:20:30 PM  
This is nature's way of saying, "This one's broken, please try again." It's sad and all that she died, but it ain't called survival of the fittest for nothing.
 
2006-12-02 05:20:40 PM  
Ringtone?

She Bangs by William Hung.
 
2006-12-02 05:21:57 PM  
It really bothers me how ONE freak accident is the cause for alarm and a cry for change.
 
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2006-12-02 05:22:42 PM  
img.photobucket.com

"but iz not a doomah!"
 
2006-12-02 05:23:14 PM  
Funny headline OP.

/props
 
2006-12-02 05:25:02 PM  
Honest Bender-
Since we've climbed down from the treetops, created cooking, language, and complicated societies, we have NOT been relying on natural selection.
Hell, if we want to get technical about it, the lower class in most societies reproduces more than the upper class, thereby helping their genes spread, not the 'superior' ones.
So don't start trolling about natural selection when you clearly don't understand the interaction of society and natural selection.
 
2006-12-02 05:25:10 PM  
We should dump alot more money into this - and take away money from other areas that also have a need.

No wait, there aren't enough resources for everything. We can't prevent everything, everytime, for every rare disorder. In this case, they knew she had the problem anyway. Is the mother's solution to ban loud noises?

Let's find cures for more comment horrible ailments first, then we can focus more on the extremely rare ones.
 
2006-12-02 05:27:05 PM  
BillDoor

So you choose to ignore that most fetal abortions in humans are due to chromosomal defects and other incompatible with life ailments? You don't believe that to be part of nature's process for passing on viable genes?

Interesting. Don't go accusing others of not understanding natural selection.
 
2006-12-02 05:27:53 PM  
Clearly, the only rational solution is for everyone to smash their cellphone to bits. Quickly, before they kill again.
 
2006-12-02 05:31:25 PM  
BillDoor

Aren't you making more of a point in favor of natural selection than I was? Do you really want the world OVER populated by the lowest common denominator? Genetics aside. Forget the fact that selective breeding could wipe out a large portion of human disease. If we got over our own self righteousness we could wipe out HIV/aids for example. Just incinerate everyone with the disease. Sounds harsh, but compare the millions of deaths now to the potential, what, billions, that will most likely die from the disease? There are plenty of other diseases that could also be completely eliminated.

I'm not trying to be an asshole or the next Hitler, I'm just saying, it would be in our race's best interest.
 
2006-12-02 05:32:33 PM  
BillDoor: Since we've climbed down from the treetops, created cooking, language, and complicated societies, we have NOT been relying on natural selection.
Hell, if we want to get technical about it, the lower class in most societies reproduces more than the upper class, thereby helping their genes spread, not the 'superior' ones.


' Wait, high class people are genetically superior to lower class people? '
 
2006-12-02 05:34:32 PM  
Especially since if you know you have the condition and take your beta blockers you'll be fine.


RTFA, "undiagnosed heart condition"
 
2006-12-02 05:36:56 PM  
duckpoopy
Clearly, the only rational solution is for everyone to smash their cellphone to bits. Quickly, before they kill again.

Sadly though, the ones who need that advice probably don't read Fark.
 
2006-12-02 05:43:46 PM  
//raises one eyebrow and gives a dirty look to submitter
 
2006-12-02 05:46:37 PM  
javalab.cs.uni-bonn.de

Hello, I'm evolution's Charles Darwin, and I approve this message.
 
2006-12-02 05:47:01 PM  
Shock to the heart, and phone's to blame
You give ringtones a bad name
 
2006-12-02 05:51:34 PM  
Maybe they should get rid of the cruddy ringtones.
 
2006-12-02 05:54:00 PM  
ITS NOT A TOUMAH!

www.afrotechmods.com
 
2006-12-02 05:59:33 PM  
that would suck to be the guy that made the fatal call. man.
 
2006-12-02 06:00:35 PM  
Honest Bender

I'm not trying to be an asshole or the next Hitler, I'm just saying, it would be in our race's best interest.

Sorry dude, but when you suggest wanton slaughter of large numbers of human beings---regardless of the reason---as a proactive tactic, that is exactly the territory you've trodden into.

There was an article on Fark not too long ago about the ethics of withholding care from newborns with congenital defects and letting them die a 'natural' death, rather than investing state medical resources into prolonging a life that is likely to be short and painful. That's some tricky moral ground to walk, but I can see their reasoning.

On the other hand, when someone has survived to twenty, thirty, forty years and suffers a deadly malady, the time for such rationale has long passed. They've already shown empirically that their condition isn't life-threatening enough to 'doom the species,' so society is NOT served by eliminating them. More importantly, they ARE the society itself; they live, they work, they go to school, they contribute. In general, society should not be in the business of eradicating vast swaths of its members; doing so essentially ruins the purpose of society itself. Why buy into the concept of collective living if I run the risk of having government declare me 'undesirable' and kill me off? If we were to go that road, we may as well just all bust out knives and start going at it. We'd see how well the 'upper class' fare when faced with knife-wielding AIDS victims in the early stages of the disease, who still have few outward symptoms and are as strong and agile as an average person.

Maybe we could eliminate some diseases by eliminating the people. But that strategy is antithetical to medicine itself, and ultimately the doom of any society that attempts to practice it long-term.
 
2006-12-02 06:02:12 PM  
I am guessing she never used an alarm clock either? WTF?!?! The cell phone my prostate!!
 
2006-12-02 06:08:38 PM  
Ring, Ring
"Hello?"
"Your ticket to the afterlife has now been processed and is in effect immediately. Please hold while you are transfered."

The makings of a good story, ne?

That's too bad for the family, though. This is something you could not imagine happening until it does, especially to a young woman.
 
2006-12-02 06:08:57 PM  
Bravo, subby. Creative.
 
2006-12-02 06:10:39 PM  
Quick Fixer

I can certainly see your point, but I'm not entirely sure you see mine. I'm not talking about killing people because of who or what they are, I'm talking about destroying the diseases they carry. The only way to do that is to kill the people. It's not wanton slaughter, it's culling the herd. Can you honestly say that 50, 100, 200 years from now the world wouldn't be a better place without any hereditary diseases or viruses? It's a harsh way to solve the problem, but try to look at the bigger picture.
 
2006-12-02 06:19:33 PM  
Honest Bender

I believe that your point---correct me if I'm misunderstanding---is this:

"It would serve the best interests of humanity to eradicate genetic and hereditary diseases. One way (possibly the most efficient way?) to do so is to kill the people carrying the diseases. Therefore, to serve the best interests of humanity, we should kill all people who carry genetic or hereditary diseases."

Have I missed any key elements? Because I believe my previous argument still explains why this policy is doomed to failure. There are forty million people on the planet currently infected with AIDS, for example, according to the UNAIDS program.

Killing forty million cows, that's culling the herd.

Killing forty million people will always be wanton slaughter.
 
2006-12-02 06:22:35 PM  
2006-12-02 05:21:57 PM waiting4godot


It really bothers me how ONE freak accident is the cause for alarm and a cry for change.


Lots of people die from undiagnosed heart conditions. This is hardly one freak accident. It's simply one set of parents deciding that more needs to be done. And if money can be devoted to studies proving that being drunk makes others appear more attractive, surely money can be set aside to increase screening for these kinds of things.
 
2006-12-02 06:23:48 PM  
""The one my daughter had was triggered by sudden noises,"?

Heart attack caused by sudden noises? And how does one make it past oh, about 2 weeks old, with that sort of a defect?
 
2006-12-02 06:26:43 PM  
I knew a girl with a congenital birth defect, she died. A death is a death. It's sad. It's not a strong day for humanity. Screening for this takes no time and costs next to nothing, it's just an EKG.

Fark all you farkers who think it's not a bad thing.
 
2006-12-02 06:29:01 PM  
Quick Fixer

Sounds about right
 
2006-12-02 06:54:06 PM  
The family, from Horden, is raising money, and awareness, for the Cardiac at Risk in the Young (CRY) charity, in memory of the teenager, who died last December.

I like commas.
 
2006-12-02 06:57:18 PM  
kind of off topic, but does anyone else every think their phone is vibrating in their pocket when it's not?
 
2006-12-02 07:16:53 PM  
Shes kinda hot. I'd hit it... with defibrillator paddles.
 
2006-12-02 08:11:27 PM  
I once turned my ringer off and put it on vibrate, then stuck it in my shirt pocket. I was just laying back in a chair watching TV and it went off. I thought I was having a heart attack. It took a little while before I noticed it was my phone vibrating.

Scared the shiat out of me. Now I just keep it on vibrate and sit on it...
 
2006-12-02 08:12:45 PM  
Honest Bender

I firmly believe that humanity would sooner doom itself to extinction through a gene pool so polluted nobody can breed before people who can't survive without outside assistance are allowed to die naturally.

In High School biology I had to watch a movie about a boy with some sort of genetic disorder. Whatever it was it was lethal, but his father discovered a workaround. The feel-good ending with all the happy children talking about how the oil saved their lives made me realize one thing that nobody else admitted to thinking: each of those surviving children would be more likely to pass on their defective genes, meaning a disease which should have halved its distribution each generation would spread instead.

Assuming basic odds, humanity as a whole would be better off with them dead. But who wants to tell that boy's father that discovering a treatment was, in the long run, the worst thing he could have done? Not me. Maybe not anyone. The solution is too extreme (sounds a bit too much like a 'final solution'), and if doomsday predictions of a 99% sterile population are to be believed, 'what needs to be done' will be done by Darwin, and not us.
 
2006-12-02 08:48:13 PM  
I hear it could been the sun that caused her death.....I mean it was shining at the time.

Lets ban the sun.


I call BS on the cause. This girl was way to Farkin old just like her momma to say that the cell phones sudden noise caused the problem. They have been scared by sudden noises countless times. This is most likely just coincidence. I mean really did she ever consider turning the dumb ringer down.

I dont mind them wanting to raise awareness to the condition....but common most of us are not genetically defective like those 2 were/are.
 
2006-12-02 08:49:09 PM  
This is the 21 century people. We should ban the use of cell phones. If even one person dies from anything it should be restricted.

/Freedumb is what we're going to be left with.
 
2006-12-02 09:05:33 PM  
us.movies1.yimg.com
 
2006-12-02 10:20:09 PM  
Class-action lawsuits against the sound editors of every modern horror film in 3... 2...
 
2006-12-02 11:26:24 PM  
Clarky: This is the 21 century people. We should ban the use of cell phones. If even one person dies from anything it should be restricted.

Ban Old Age before it's too late!!
 
2006-12-02 11:33:26 PM  
Hmm.

Kasia Ber, 17, who had an undiagnosed heart problem, died in bed at her parents' County Durham home last year.

An inquest in Hartlepool heard evidence from Miss Ber's boyfriend Scott Wheatley, who said she began shaking when her mobile phone alarm went off on the morning of 28 December last year.


So, her boyfriend was staying with her in her parents' house? Wow.
 
2006-12-03 02:12:57 AM  
BearToy...It was this: Angry cat

It would cause anyone's heart to stop.
 
2006-12-03 02:53:28 AM  
jfarkinB

At a glance, I thought it said "died in her parents' bed in County...", then I got to the point where the boyfriend was sleeping next to her. I thought maybe they were doing it in her parents' bed and she died. How embarrassing would that be to have to explain?
 
2006-12-03 07:58:53 AM  
newsimg.bbc.co.uk

If she were still alive, I'd hit it.
 
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