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2006-11-29 03:43:58 PM
Lake Zurich Illinois?? Are you farking kidding me? That ain't no suburb, it is at least an hour and 15 minute drive downtown, if you are moving. And it is near absolutely noting.

Morans.
 
2006-11-29 03:45:37 PM
the icelander

and hey! i just moved to Canada. Vancouver. It's just like America, except people complain about Americans rather than rant pridefully about them. Canadians don't seem to understand that American cities are just like Canadian cities, and the freaks that Borat interviews are just as frequent here as they are in Alabama. Beer and smokes are also shiat expensive.
 
2006-11-29 03:45:52 PM
Lakeville, MN? Isn't that in the middle of a corn field? I think a reasonable person who wanted to live in a 'burb could find something closer, and maybe less expensive.

/hates 'burbs
//loves old neighborhoods
///hates commutes
 
2006-11-29 03:46:11 PM
Where's the damn list already? Why do idiotic top-whatever list stories never have the stupid list attached to the story? For Chrissake just give me a list and not a lot of fluffy real-estate hawker jackassery! I'm bored at work, don't make me mad.
 
2006-11-29 03:46:28 PM
Abominable Snow Man,

not sure I ever emailed you back, so sorry about that, shiat was crazy for a few weeks.

No worries, dude. I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off preparing for my move to Houston. I forgot quite a few things :)

We need some better farking security.

The city is looking into requiring complexes that have above a certain number of crimes per week/month to pay for armed security patrols.
 
2006-11-29 03:46:52 PM
Woohoo #2
 
2006-11-29 03:47:01 PM
I live in Matthews, NC and like it quite a bit. I've got a pretty big house that was affordable and the taxes are pretty damn low ($2,400 a year on a 3,300 sq. ft. house). It's close to a bunch of stuff and uptown Charlotte. They're working on improving the schools - the new commish released a plan today although they are pretty good compared to other parts of the city.

the other was talking about strip malls and characters and that's true for pretty much all of Charlotte. It's a new city that hasn't developed any personality. That's absolutely true especially for someone like me that came from MA. OTOH, I'd trade that off for affordeable housing, lower taxes, and better weather 10 out of 10 times.

The suburbs North of Charlotte are okay but I felt a little disconnected from the Charlotte proper up there. Also, the infrastructure kind of stinks if you need to get to uptown Charlotte on a regular basis.
 
2006-11-29 03:47:03 PM
I agree mekongola thats why i thought it was odd sharon was in there, Living in quincy ain't bad though.
 
2006-11-29 03:48:13 PM
Castle Rock elects Tom Tancredo to congress yearly.

That is all.
 
2006-11-29 03:49:29 PM
West Nyack, NY. 30 minutes to Manhattan. Keep in mind that's with no traffic on 287/87 crossing the Tappan Zee bridge (fat chance), nevermind the fact that during the holiday season you'll be innundated with shoppers hitting the Palisades Mall.
 
2006-11-29 03:49:39 PM
ROZWELL REPRAZENT YO!
 
2006-11-29 03:49:54 PM
"In Southeast Asia we'd call this kind of thing bad karma."
 
2006-11-29 03:50:03 PM
I hate the suburbs. They're just like the SUV's that populate them; bad at some things, good at most stuff, great at nothing. In other words, bland. A "nice" place to be. Ugh. I was raised in them and will never live in one again. I moved out to the country and in a couple years time I will buy a one bedroom condo in the city and have myself an "urban cottage" for the weekends.
 
2006-11-29 03:51:48 PM
Oh yeah, let me buy a half mil house that looks like everyone else's and has to be painted beige because that's what the fascist HOA people say.

Every time I read something about real estate these days, it just makes my $700/mo apartment here in downtown Albany seem comfier all the time.
 
2006-11-29 03:52:23 PM
SchlingFo: The city is looking into requiring complexes that have above a certain number of crimes per week/month to pay for armed security patrols.

I doubt our place will qualify for such a need. We don't have a huge number of problems, it's more like a constant vulnerability due to our location near some empty undeveloped land on one side, and a REALLY BAD part of town being right across Hwy 288 on the other side.

Either we'll wait until the wife finishes her 2nd year of med school, or we'll find a small midrise or highrise condo just to increase our safety. Either way, I'm sick of throwing money away on rent when I could be building equity. Too bad it's not possible to buy an actual HOUSE in the safe areas west of the med center for less than 300k (and that's a teardown).
 
2006-11-29 03:52:59 PM
Any suggestions on where to look in the Fort Lauderdale area? The article's suggestion was like $450K. A bit out of the price range. I just got transferred here for work and am looking for a place.
 
2006-11-29 03:53:09 PM
ScottMpls

That's exactly what I was thinking. If you needed to commute to Minneapolis or St. Paul from Lakeville it is going to take you 45 minutes with absolutely zero traffic. Normal rush hour you are looking at an hour and 15.

I think they must have drawn a 100 mile radius around each city and chosen a town within that range.
 
2006-11-29 03:53:34 PM
St. Charles Mo represent!

Nice picture of downtown St. Louis they used. Guess the cameraman got lost.
 
2006-11-29 03:53:37 PM
Something I never could stomach about Santa Clarita, all the damn vampires!
 
2006-11-29 03:53:55 PM
We just bought our first home - totally custom place on 1/4 acre, lots of trees, hilly, block from huge lake, and office studio for mine and teh milf's home businesses for 175k, no down payment, and seller paid closing costs. We actually are making 200 bucks on the deal. Autin, TX ftw! I actually like it more in austin than I did in Hawaii (400k for a crappy condo).

Now to find a town which has banned churches......
 
2006-11-29 03:54:53 PM
Suburbs suck.

I just bought a nice "airplane bungalow" in my dream location in one of Wichita's sweetest old-timey neighborhoods (Riverside), just down the street from the botanical gardens, several parks and a golf course, for $90,000. Very low crime, almost no rentals in the area, right across the street from the Arkansas River.

www.wichitavortex.com
 
2006-11-29 03:56:14 PM
I won't touch the burbs with a 20 foot pole.

//inner-city dweller 4 life
 
2006-11-29 03:57:10 PM
can someone post this so called "list". or I think I just read that I have to watch slide show?

/agh, shiat gets on my nerves
 
2006-11-29 03:57:28 PM
TripSixes: Castle Rock elects Tom Tancredo to congress yearly.

That is all.


And Highlands Ranch, its suburban neighbor in Douglas County, is one of the most white cities in the country. Coincidence?
 
2006-11-29 03:57:30 PM
Ehh, Lakeville is okay.
 
2006-11-29 03:58:03 PM
ArmsLongo

I was thinking taking 30 or 76 into Philly. When I go to Philly, I usually take 340 to the Octorora Trail. Then I jump on 30 in Sadsbury where it turns back into a highway again, thus eliminating having to deal with goddamn Philly suburbanites clogging Route 30 to save $5 on a $300 leather jacket at the outlets.

\Prettier drive, too.
 
2006-11-29 03:58:42 PM
Chris4549
But the north area is getting ALOT better. I never thought I would want to live in Kannapolis, but I really like it there.
35 min and I am down at Trade/Tryon without haveing to deal with Independence Blvd.
Taxes much lower
light rail ever gets done, it will be even better
 
2006-11-29 03:58:53 PM
carmody: Suburbs suck.

I just bought a nice "airplane bungalow" in my dream location in one of Wichita's sweetest old-timey neighborhoods (Riverside), just down the street from the botanical gardens, several parks and a golf course, for $90,000. Very low crime, almost no rentals in the area, right across the street from the Arkansas River.


But Wichita is like a suburb...it's in the middle of nowwhere in KS. 'Course, it's quite cosmopolitan compared to Dodge City.

/used to "live" in Dodge
 
2006-11-29 03:59:40 PM
I can appreciate your choice there carmody. Character and lifestyle trump cutcutter burbs anyday.
 
2006-11-29 04:00:32 PM
The median house price is not the lowest decent house price in an area. It's the median. If the median price is in the 400k range, there are probably quite a few houses around at 350k, a small but active market of 300k houses, and the occasional run-down, fixer-upper, or total steal at 265k.

/Just sayin'
 
2006-11-29 04:00:57 PM
Great headline!

"About a 9 on the tension scale there, Rube."

/Oh, and Castle Rock is practically mid-way between Denver and CO Springs. No thanks.
 
2006-11-29 04:01:08 PM
The thing I love about Lancaster is that it's got all the personality of a bigger city but none of the traffic problems. And I can get out to a Big Box store for something really easily.

Plus, good schools and cheap housing. And an Amtrak stop that'll take me to Philly or Harrisburg in under an hour.
 
2006-11-29 04:02:52 PM
popain

I won't touch the burbs with a 20 foot pole.

//inner-city dweller 4 life


Profile says Bellham WA? Pop 65K? That aint a city. That's a town.


Inner city? sure....
 
2006-11-29 04:03:13 PM
halfof33


Lake Zurich Illinois?? Are you farking kidding me? That ain't no suburb, it is at least an hour and 15 minute drive downtown, if you are moving. And it is near absolutely noting.

Morans.


Maybe 1hr 15 on weekends. Try it on a weekday during rush hour.....more like 2 hours plus.
 
2006-11-29 04:04:02 PM
Arms Longo: West Chester? That's like a friggin hour from Philly if you're lucky. Why not Media borough? It's closer, getting all slick and refurbished facades like all these Trader Joe's whitebread plastic fantastic wouldn't-know-fun-or-soul-if-it-collided-directly-with-their-frontbrains middle-aged upper-middle-class parents of boring indecisive slackers like, right? And it's got a trolley down its main street! C'mon! MEDIA! MEDIA! MEDIA! EVERYBODY'S HOMETOWN!


Media, PA FTW!
 
2006-11-29 04:04:45 PM
Leperflesh

The median house price is not the lowest decent house price in an area. It's the median. If the median price is in the 400k range, there are probably quite a few houses around at 350k, a small but active market of 300k houses, and the occasional run-down, fixer-upper, or total steal at 265k.


You cannot assertain that from the data you have.

Median means middle. Ie. Half the homes sold for under it, and half the homes sold for more.

/but you are probably right.
 
2006-11-29 04:07:41 PM
I grew up in West Nyack (and no this is not the start of the famous cliche) and I have no idea how it made this list. Sure it's nice, crime is fairly low and we have a great big mall, but is that all it takes? As people have noted, the median price is ridiculous compared to other suburbs.
 
2006-11-29 04:07:59 PM
dumpstergirl I grew up in a 4 bedroom, 2300sqft home in a nice neighborhood, with nice schools, that was 100k (now appraised at 145k.)

Me, too. Now I live in a 1200 ft2 apartment in an effective suburb of Manhattan which is probably worth around $400,000, not including the $1k/mo maintenance. NYC prices are farked.

OTOH, NYPD is making $60,000 after 5 years, and that's a fairly low paying job. A 2 income couple can easily make 100k even in moderate blue collar jobs. At 50% of their income, they could afford a 400k house.
 
2006-11-29 04:09:44 PM
wow $200,000 for a 3300 sq ft house 1/2 hour outside of Ann Arbor doesn't seem so bad now :)
 
2006-11-29 04:09:52 PM
Can I chime in that Lake Zurich is geographically closer to Milwaukee than it is to Chicago, during peak traffic times at least.
 
2006-11-29 04:09:56 PM
"YOU are the one who lives next door??"
 
2006-11-29 04:10:30 PM
I live in Nyack.

The only place to rent that I can afford is sandwiched between a slum-lord house fulla 6 illegal families that have a billion screaming children and a Latino Restaurante that's extremely noisy at night.

I make a healthy living as an IT professional, and I could *NEVER* afford to buy anything in this area. The "middle-class" condos still start at $325k for a 2 bdrm.

What's this guy smokin'? And why isn't he sharing?

And the public trans commute to NYC is 90 min. On a good day.

/journalist has no idea about this area
 
2006-11-29 04:10:36 PM
I'd live in Lakeville if I had to. At least it's still the TC, more or less.

I wouldn't live in Coralville if my life depended on it.

My sister lives in Iowa City. She loves it there. I'd be miserable.
 
2006-11-29 04:11:56 PM
$450K over 30 years will run you 3000 a month, plus taxes and utilities.

Folks making 60K a year are probably taking home 800 a week.

You cannot do it. even if you had no kids, and ate Raman every night.

If you make $60K, and want a house, please consider Lawerance MA, not Sharron.


One thing you neglected to mention is that your analysis assumes no money down.

So, no equity + lots of debt + little liquidity + working for money rather than money working for you = lots of sleepless nights for me at least.

Plus, many of these homes are 30-50 years olds and when you move in, you realize that you have to fix a bunch of stuff that will only add to the cost.
 
2006-11-29 04:14:54 PM
NathanAllen

I have family that lives in Gurnee and they love to tell me how they can take advanatge of two big cities (Milwauke and Chicago) if they wanted since the travel time is about the same assuming no traffic.

What's funny is the monster that Chicagoland has become. It has taken over parts of IN and WI, and it ticks me off.
 
2006-11-29 04:15:40 PM
$450-600K isn't my idea of affordable. I guess things have changed.
BTW-Burb Haters. Yes, we may have to drive to get anywhere, but at least we are not surrounded by Father-rapers, Dog-rapers, constant noise.
 
2006-11-29 04:16:39 PM
Yeee Haw! Red Oak, TX ftw! Thirty minutes from downtown Dallas (with no traffic), new brick three bdrm, 2 bath, double garage, huge backyard, 96k! Good schools, low crime! Honestly, really nice area with good people. Still has a small town feel.
 
2006-11-29 04:16:46 PM
I love in the slide show, they show wonderful sky lines, or beatufil scenes of the moutains, the ocean and such and you think Hmmmm that is nice.

Then you ge to Kansas and they show a farking rotarty.

A rotary? Ohhhh. Honey, pack your bags! It's Kansas for us!!!!!

Newark wasn't much better. They showed the airport.

/Wish I moved to Alberquqe in early 90's. Damn
 
2006-11-29 04:19:48 PM
Iowa City is an awesome place to live. Coralville... hmm.
 
2006-11-29 04:20:21 PM
smokescreen



One thing you neglected to mention is that your analysis assumes no money down


Actually, I kind of did. My orignal post was talking about the $490K hous in Sharron MA. So I Figured in a 40K down payment. and worked the Mort on $450 But hey, if you want to bust my ass. That's fine. :^)

Someone making 60 a year can't afford more than $150 in my book.

2 incomes makine around 100K would be strapped to handle a 300K house. Don't you think?
 
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