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(ABC)   Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" voted best song of last 20 years, beating out "Hey Ya" and "Sweet Child O' Mine" for the top honor   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 479
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2006-11-27 10:44:49 PM  
I lean towards bands that dropped so far off the radar they might as well be invisible.

Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros anyone?

The Jody Grind?

Kelly Hogan?

All of the above kick Nirvana's ass...
 
2006-11-27 10:47:59 PM  
Wow, it seems like fark is composed of eather Emo/indie underground trash or ancient relics still trying to convince the world the DOORS was revolutionary.

Metallica- One, Unforgiven, Enter Sandman, The list goes on...
Guns and roses- Sweet child of mine, The jungle
Rage against the machine- Bulls on parade, ghost of tom joad
Nine inch Nails- Hurt, Head like a hole, animal
 
2006-11-27 10:48:04 PM  
pshaw: 20. "I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor" Arctic Monkeys, 2006

Hun? By next year, nobody will remember that song.


I think it has more to do with the fact that they were nobodies that released a bunch of songs on the net for free, people downloaded them like mad, then they released an album, and it went to the top of the charts.

They're arguably the first chart-topping band to get there primarily through internet promotion and without a label.
 
2006-11-27 10:48:27 PM  
Yeah, "Teen Spirit" is about the time modern music stopped being good. Popular music of today just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. Now GET OUT OF MY YARD AND TURN THAT CRAP DOWN!
 
2006-11-27 10:50:07 PM  
I am not a big music aficionado so I can't state this with authority, but I have always had the strong impression that Nirvana's reputation among critics went WAY up after Cobain killed himself.

I loved Nirvana (I'm white and Nevermind came out when I was in middle school so it was almost inevitable), however right before Cobain's suicide most people seemed to think they were finished and nobody was terribly broken up about it. They had had approximately the same career arc huge selling bands.

I seriously don't believe that critics and sophisticated listeners pre-suicide would have placed Nirvana among even the top five bands since, say, 1975. They would probably have been 50/50 to make most people's top 5 bands of the 90's list. No chance in hell they would have gone down as 'best band evar'.

IMO the tragic young suicide angle caused people to rewrite the Nirvana story as a doomed genius narrative and from there the rest was history.

I could be wrong.
 
2006-11-27 10:52:34 PM  
Welcome to the Machine: Have you people forgotten the wasteland that was 80's music! Aside from a few, and I mean few, high points, it was crrrrrrap.

If I have to hear Sweet Child much more I am going to have to hurt someone.

/COBAIN SAVED ROCK
//for all of us


And therein lies the dispute. I think the 1980's had just about the best music ever. and the world which was "changed" by Nirvana was straight downhill for music since the early 1990's so if they had an influence it was a suck influence.
 
2006-11-27 10:53:18 PM  
The people will survive
In their environment
The dirt, scarcity, and the emptiness
Of our South
The injustice of our greed
The practice we inherit
The dirt, scarcity and the emptiness
Of our South
There on the beach
I could see it in her eyes
I only had a Corona
Five cent deposit
 
2006-11-27 10:54:04 PM  
The Duke of Carrot Flowers: Meh: Every song off of Neutral Milk Hotel's "In the aeroplane over the sea" is better than those songs.

Ah, what a great album. Probably my favorite.

"Common People" by Pulp is probably my favorite off that list (#8), though "Hey Ya", "7 Nation Army" and "Bittersweet Symphony" are also fine choices.
 
2006-11-27 10:55:01 PM  
octo: IMO the tragic young suicide angle caused people to rewrite the Nirvana story as a doomed genius narrative and from there the rest was history.

I could be wrong.


No, you are not wrong. and I would go further and say that is the primary reason so many older music junkies think that Jimi Hendrix was the best/greatest/ etc. guitarist ever. Its not really true, but you can't tell them that.
 
2006-11-27 10:55:58 PM  
Nevermind was an OK album at best...I never understood what the big deal about it was, although I listened to it when I was like 13 cause all the cool kids did...

My favorite song would probably have to be something by the foo fighters or "fix you" by coldplay.
 
Azu
2006-11-27 10:59:02 PM  
I'm a HUGE fan of Kurt Cobain. He's the guy who killed Kurt Cobain!

/I wouldn't have minded him so much if he stayed with Beat Happening.
//I would have LIKED him if he stayed with Beat Happening.
 
2006-11-27 11:00:14 PM  
pol_troop

pop?!
since when is Nirvana pop?


Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

- V -
 
2006-11-27 11:01:11 PM  

H31N0US

I would submit Soul Coughing for some of the stuff the radio never played, but then again, no points for obscurity.


Soul Coughing is the best band evah!

/except when I had to buy the soundtrack to "Batman and Robin" to get one of thier songs
//I went into mourning when they broke up
///not obscure
///for obscure try PTP
////or not
 
2006-11-27 11:01:27 PM  
Courtney Cox-Zucker: Smashing Pumpkins, "1979"
No way their best song, but hands down their best pure pop song. Everyone likes it, which is why you probably hate it... unless you're in the car by yourself and it comes on the radio.


I really liked Smashing pumpkins they were one of the best of the 1990's bands which aint saying much.
I was never into grunge
Country got worse and worse
Rap and hip hop are simply garbage
Some older bands like U2 put out good stuff ever now and then,
Now there is really nothing out there in either pop or rock I want to hear. I mostly listen to a lot of reggae, there is more new stuff and creativity in that genre than any other right now.
 
2006-11-27 11:02:45 PM  
shamp: There's not much that was good in the past 20 years that wasn't obscure.

I disagree with that perspective. That's like saying: "If all those people in the fat part of the bell curve like it, it must not be worthy of merit. I choose to espouse the virtues of only that music which is appreciated by those people in the extreme right tail of the bell curve, say at least two sigmas right of center".

There has been some great popular music, and some really bad obscure / indy stuff. The exact opposite can be said of the same genres. Wholesale prejudice is dumb. Unless you're talking about modern country and western. Yeah. If there are two kinds of music I hate, it's country, and western.
 
2006-11-27 11:04:18 PM  
I STILL can't listen to this song without cranking whatever I'm listening on.

That said, the other top competitors cheapens the award.

Incubus needed to be on that list.
 
2006-11-27 11:05:03 PM  
worst. list. ever.
 
2006-11-27 11:05:39 PM  
Well, of course...most of the "music" from the past 20 years is rap shiat. For me, Nirvana was the last great band.
 
2006-11-27 11:06:26 PM  
Yes. Thanks to the "change" caused by the grunge scene, people like Fergie and Gwen Stefani have the run of the charts.

I'll take my 80s music, thanks.

The problem is that a lot of people only know the 80s music that gets put on compilation albums, and never heard the gems of the age that weren't given heavy radio play. I suppose the same is true today, but damned if I find many new artists worth the plastic their music is on.
 
2006-11-27 11:06:56 PM  
Always thought that if it was Eddy Vedder who killed himself or OD'd, everyone would have Pearl Jam shirts instead.

/just sayin'
 
2006-11-27 11:09:36 PM  
Surely we can all agree that "You Got It" by Roy Orbison is one of the best songs since 1986. Shiat, people, you can actually SING ALONG with an ACTUAL MELODY, unlike almost everything else mentioned in the list and this thread.

And of course there's that timpani....
 
2006-11-27 11:16:40 PM  
Azu, when was Kurt in Beat Happening? I thought it was only just Calvin, Bret, and Heather. I know Kurt played guitar on a 7" by the Go Team, which was another one of Calvin's bands (not to be confused with Pitchfork darlings the "Go! Team" who had their debut album come out last year), but I never heard about him being in Beat Happening at any point.
 
2006-11-27 11:18:19 PM  
jonnoj77: incubus (stellar, drive, make yourself)

What, no love for their album "Science"?
 
2006-11-27 11:18:22 PM  
Supernaut. twenty years or not, SUPERNAUT!
 
2006-11-27 11:18:40 PM  
KevinThePure: Always thought that if it was Eddy Vedder who killed himself or OD'd, everyone would have Pearl Jam shirts instead.

Hopefully pre-"Last Kiss."
 
2006-11-27 11:18:40 PM  
Sergio_Van_Lukenstein: OMIGOD! Tatsuma mentioned the Lucksmiths and the Softies! Awesome! I just know you from the threads about... well, you know what comes up when people talk about you. I had no idea you were into indie/twee pop at all!

into it? Hell, I grew a beard and I'm searching for the perfect girl to start a Softies and Talulah Gosh inspired post-C86 twee pop band!
 
2006-11-27 11:20:25 PM  
who cares about somebody's list? (besides everyone here)
taste in music is subject to interpretation.
 
2006-11-27 11:20:52 PM  
Perfect Day, (TS ST) by Lou Reed.
 
2006-11-27 11:21:42 PM  
Karma Chameleon: I would have to say it's #9 on this CD:
(Tool, Lateralus)
/one man's opinion...no more, no less

YAY! Or maybe track 12 of this:
www.rockmusicreview.com

/dredg's El Cielo is easily one of the best albums ever released. In my opninion, of course.
 
2006-11-27 11:23:05 PM  
Dave Grohl is a fox. That is all.
 
2006-11-27 11:24:27 PM  
waste301

Sober

Love that f*cking song.
 
2006-11-27 11:24:39 PM  
Sadly, no consideration for "Building Steam with a Grain of Salt", by DJ Shadow. Or any of my favorite tunes from the past 20 years, for that matter.

I hate these lists. The impact of current tunes is too shortsightedly considered. They need to throw in a 5 year novelty-wearoff/marketing detox factor to keep people like Maroon 5 in check.

I will admit that there was a sea change in music around when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" hit eMpTv, but I think that it was more due to the fact that the market was getting tired of Hair Metal, Old Man Pop, Polite/Pop Rap, and the Death Throes of New Wave/Synth Rock and less due to Nirvana themselves. All of the styles that fired up music video culture from 1981 on were starting to go stale. The record companies were fishing for a new sound by that time. They were trolling all of the big US local music scenes, looking for unique acts that were differentiated and had market appeal.

Anything could have stepped into that void. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, The Screaming Trees, The Sonic Youth (et al) happened to be in the right place at the right time when the cool hunters made the call. Seattle was strip mined for acts and we now all have fond (or not so fond) memories of the period. It was fairly arbitrary. Imagine if they decided that Austin or Portland were the new hot domestic sound. It would have made for different lists, and perhaps the Seattle Grunge bands would have faded into obscurity. Witness the power of marketing.
 
2006-11-27 11:25:20 PM  
Sergio_Van_Lukenstein

It's great to find another Twee fan.. It's pretty rare! I've bought pretty much every single record from Sarah I've been able to put my hand on.

Which means I'm pretty farking poor, but with a great record collection
 
2006-11-27 11:32:39 PM  
Tatsuma, if you still live in Denver, like your profile says, you should go see Dressy Bessy on December 8th or 9th! They'll put on a great show.

Anyway, I don't have much of the Sarah catalog. I listen to mostly newer twee because it's easier for me to have access to it. The latest band that I've gotten into is Suburban Kids With Biblical Names. They're Swedish twee, sort of like Acid House Kings or Jens Lekman.
 
2006-11-27 11:33:48 PM  
Killswitch f*cking Engage.
 
2006-11-27 11:34:43 PM  
I'm a huge Nirvana fan, but Johnny Cash's cover of NIN's "Hurt" wins.
 
Azu
2006-11-27 11:36:15 PM  
Sergio_Van_Lukenstein

He played with them live a few times. I didn't know he was in Go Team. I do know he had a K records shield tattoo on his arm. (I know more about his arm than Nirvana. Ugh I hate Nirvana.)

Calvin is in the Go! Team, as well. It's an alright album. Nothing Broken Social Scene hasn't already done three times.

I'm not a huge twee fan but I know enough to float by. I have a beard but it's not ironic - it's because I like Okkervil River :[
 
2006-11-27 11:36:27 PM  
This one. Do not deny.
 
2006-11-27 11:38:43 PM  
Guns N Roses sucks making it impossible for them to be best at anything (except sucking).

/back to your arguments
 
2006-11-27 11:42:09 PM  
What not a single mention of Wierd Al's Amish Paradise?

Damn and I so wanted to party like it's 1699!


/Loved the resultant fallout too vs. the original
 
2006-11-27 11:42:46 PM  
"NIN - Head like a hole" FTW
 
2006-11-27 11:43:59 PM  
I have a beard because I think I look stupid without one. ^_^

And a shoutout to TripSixes for bring up Polysics. Better than the Boredoms!
 
2006-11-27 11:46:10 PM  
I nominate "Red Right Ankle" by the Decemberists, or maybe "Casimir Pulaski Day" by Sufjan Stevens. But that's the thing about these countdowns: "best" is such a subjective thing. No two people like the exact same qualities of music.

In my opinion though, you'd be hard-pressed to find a legitimate reason to bash those songs, snd "waaah there's no electric guitar in them, ghey" does not qualify.
 
2006-11-27 11:46:13 PM  
Sergio_Van_Lukenstein: Tatsuma, if you still live in Denver, like your profile says, you should go see Dressy Bessy on December 8th or 9th! They'll put on a great show.

They are awesome! I'm not in Denver anymore, however, but I'm in Montreal. Thriving Indie Scene, but not so much when it comes to twee...

Anyway, I don't have much of the Sarah catalog. I listen to mostly newer twee because it's easier for me to have access to it. The latest band that I've gotten into is Suburban Kids With Biblical Names. They're Swedish twee, sort of like Acid House Kings or Jens Lekman.

AHK are amongst my favourite bands of all times. So often they are borderline too cheesy, but they are so damn good they just never cross that line

If you're into recent Twee and twee-inspired music, I really hope you've heard of the Boy Least Likely To and I'm From Barcelona

They are really awesome, even if not twee per-se. You can know they listened to a lot of it, though....

I have to leave, but it's awesome to find farkers into twee!
 
2006-11-27 11:47:20 PM  
If I see a list without anything from The Cure's "Disintergration" or XTC's "Skylarking," and it says its about the best of the last 20 years, that list don't mean didley in my book.

Damn skippy.
 
2006-11-27 11:47:34 PM  
Gorillaz87: I nominate "Red Right Ankle" by the Decemberists, or maybe "Casimir Pulaski Day" by Sufjan Stevens. But that's the thing about these countdowns

I don't know who you are, but I think you're awesome.
 
2006-11-27 11:48:07 PM  
"Casimir Pulaski Day" by Sufjan Stevens.
Wow. Neutral Milk Hotel and Sufjan fans in one thread. Awesome.

Tatsuma: however, but I'm in Montreal. Thriving Indie Scene

Wow. Tatsuma's saying something positive about Montreal. What day is this?
 
2006-11-27 11:51:41 PM  
The Duke of Carrot Flowers: Wow. Tatsuma's saying something positive about Montreal. What day is this?

as I said, there are great things to be said about Montreal.

I love the town, I hate the politics and the "french-canadian elite", especially the "culture".

Arianne Moffat? Stefie Shock? The tv shows? The radio shows? Please, hit me repeatedly with a hammer in the head, instead.

And, come on, you like both Sufjan Stevens AND Neutral Milk Hotel. For that only, I'd buy you at least a few pints!
 
2006-11-27 11:55:46 PM  
img19.imageshack.us

Best 2 songs ever. Best album ever.
 
2006-11-27 11:57:20 PM  
What the hell. Everyone else is submitting them, so

"Dear God" - XTC
"I'm an Adult Now" - The Pursuit of Happiness
"Reignition" - Bad Brains
"Eruption" - EVH
 
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