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(Yahoo)   The federal government has fined the Red Cross $5.7 million for violating blood-safety laws   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 87
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2006-11-27 07:22:38 PM  
I'm not just the Red Cross president, I'm also a client.

www.arnadal.no

/DNRTFA
 
2006-11-27 07:45:45 PM  
[Scary] would be a more appropriate tag.
 
2006-11-27 09:53:07 PM  
The federal government should have all military personell donate a pint of blood every 2 months and we would never have a blood shortage again.
 
2006-11-27 09:53:14 PM  
As vague as that whole article is, I still must give a resounding EWWWWWWWWWWW. Banking your own blood is still the only way to go.
 
2006-11-27 09:54:10 PM  
FTFA: The Red Cross said does not use donated money to pay fines

i27.photobucket.com

Earlier this year [2005], the Canadian Red Cross pleaded guilty to distributing contaminated blood supplies that infected thousands of Canadians with HIV and hepatitis C in the 1980s. This scandal is a large part of why the Canadian Red Cross was removed from running the country's blood supply in the late 1990s--but not the American Red Cross.

Enron-style bookkeeping, deceptive advertising and outright theft of funds have also been a big part of the Red Cross' recent history.

For years, the organization has been criticized for raising money for one disaster, and then withholding a large chunk of it for other operations and "fundraising." For example, the Red Cross raised around $50 million for the victims of the 1989 San Francisco earthquake in San Francisco, but it's estimated that only $10 million was ever turned over to the victims.

Similar charges were made against the Red Cross following fundraising operations after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and a San Diego fire in 2001. There was also a huge scandal involving the embezzlement of millions of dollars in donations in the New Jersey chapter in the late 1990s.

These scandals and the potentially embarrassing political fallout from them were muffled by the media and the Red Cross' political allies. But the truth couldn't be contained after September 11.

Soon after the attacks, Dr. Bernadine Healy, who was appointed president of the Red Cross in 1999, appealed for donations to help survivors and the families of those killed. In record-breaking time, the organization raised nearly $543 million.

Then the controversy began. A congressional investigation revealed that--though it had promised that all 9/11 donations would all go to victims' families--the Red Cross held back more than half of the $543 million. During congressional hearings, Rep. Billy Tauzin (R-La.)--soon to become a lobbyist for Big Pharma--declared: "What's at issue here is that a special fund was established for these families. It was specially funded for this event, September 11. And it is being closed now because we're told enough money's been raised in it, but we're also told, by the way, we're going to give two-thirds of it away to other Red Cross needs."


/give 'til it hurts
 
2006-11-27 09:54:16 PM  
BLOODY DISGUSTING.
 
2006-11-27 09:55:11 PM  
HERO Tag??

//i think so!!
///just wanna start a flamewar
////slashies
 
2006-11-27 09:55:19 PM  
Tainted blood!
Wo-o-o-o-o
Tainted Blood!
 
2006-11-27 09:55:34 PM  
www.lumiere.org
 
2006-11-27 09:55:47 PM  
Captain Coffee
I've known my fair share of military people and I doubt their blood would pass any test. Once you wade through all the STD's and drugs we wouldn't have a military left to drain.
 
2006-11-27 09:56:33 PM  
You should never trust a charity that makes money on the side.
 
2006-11-27 09:57:05 PM  
Captain Coffee

The federal government should have all military personell donate a pint of blood every 2 months and we would never have a blood shortage again.

I like this line of thinking. Plus I they could use it on themselves what with the getting shot with bullets and all.
 
2006-11-27 10:01:56 PM  
Captain Coffee: The federal government should have all military personell donate a pint of blood every 2 months and we would never have a blood shortage again.

But. But. But. That might mean that english people would be infected with french blood.
Face it canadians. The french control canaduh. Especially with that unique country within a country. Native Indians revolt starts now.
 
432
2006-11-27 10:08:47 PM  
www.oldchristianmusic.com

"i see a cross...
and it's red...
don't you know...
it's god's bread..."
 
2006-11-27 10:09:05 PM  
Captain Coffee: The federal government should have all military personell donate a pint of blood every 2 months and we would never have a blood shortage again.

I'm not military, and I try to give every 2 months. Granted, I don't go through the Red Cross (Miller Memorial is better up here), and I tend to get deferred for low iron count - but I still donate when I can.

Out of all the times I've donated since I turned 17 (I'm 23 now), I've managed not to pass out or come close to passing out only twice. And I still donate when I can.

I just think more people need to get off of their fat asses (yes, they take fat people, too!) and donate. It takes all of an hour (at the most) once every eight weeks. Is that too much of a sacrifice for some people?
 
2006-11-27 10:12:13 PM  
DisobedientMuffin: Banking your own blood is still the only way to go.

This only works if you know you're going to need a transfusion or something. Blood tends to expire fairly quickly (I think it's something like three months, but I could be wrong).
 
2006-11-27 10:16:12 PM  
Do they really need the blood that badly?


/Not sarcastic, asking an honest question. Sorry if it sounds like Im being impersonal
 
2006-11-27 10:16:15 PM  
This fine is for unsafe practices in one specific facility in Rochester, NY.
 
2006-11-27 10:16:20 PM  
That's why my CPR/AED/Advanced First Aid certification comes from the NSC.
 
2006-11-27 10:17:28 PM  
In other news Crest has made many advancements.
 
2006-11-27 10:18:47 PM  
the red cross is a pointless organization now, they have steered so far from their supposed course that they are nothing like it anymore, should be broken up.
 
2006-11-27 10:20:31 PM  
The Red Cross said does not use donated money to pay fines, but instead relies on operating funds, it said. Those include revenue from the sales of blood products.

What's the distinction? Say they only use revenue from sales, they are still going to be short a lot of cash now, which will be replenished by donations.
 
2006-11-27 10:22:40 PM  
I'm not military, and I try to give every 2 months.

I give platelets every 2 weeks. Always in need and it's downtime - I get to watch a movie w/o having to deal with people bothering me. Plus the nurse I use is hot.
 
2006-11-27 10:26:36 PM  
castufari: Hmm, tell me more about this 'nurse using'.
 
2006-11-27 10:26:40 PM  
If I recall what a former military person told me, once you go overseas, you're no longer allowed to donate blood in the states.

Also, I didn't realize they sold the blood... Seems kind of wrong to be selling donations.
 
2006-11-27 10:28:22 PM  
Proceeds from the punitive action are to be donated to charity.
 
2006-11-27 10:31:19 PM  
Sure, everybody frowns on Bloodball now, but wait til we get some professional athletes to sign on.

RTFA, but preferred my version.
 
2006-11-27 10:31:59 PM  
birdistasty: It takes all of an hour (at the most) once every eight weeks. Is that too much of a sacrifice for some people?

For me it has less to do with laziness and more to do with my paralyzing fear of needles. So I give money instead (not to the Red Cross though).
 
2006-11-27 10:32:29 PM  
If I recall what a former military person told me, once you go overseas, you're no longer allowed to donate blood in the states.

it depends where you go and how long ago you came back, I think.
 
2006-11-27 10:32:32 PM  
...and I've been a proud donor for a couple of years now.
 
2006-11-27 10:35:01 PM  
A friend of mine and I used to race to fill the bag at the Community Blood Center (KCMO) bi-monthly. The loser bought the Guinness at Harlings.

/Colm would put a 4 leaf clover head on every pour.
 
2006-11-27 10:35:41 PM  
Woah.
I would have thought the responsible farkers who are sexually active would have a slightly more "They don't take blood from anyone gay" because they don't screen the donor samples at all, approach.
Sorry. Wrong Forum.
I know a heck of a lot more people who would gladly donate and are 100% certified celibate and HIV free, but the red crucify us won't take it.
Not trying to beinflammitory, but if you can donate breast milk, you can donate blood.
~discuss~
 
2006-11-27 10:37:04 PM  
Frankly this action surprises me as the blood donation center I go to is very stringent about who can and cannot give blood. You have to answer several questions regarding your current health, you sexual history, whether or not you have been to certain countries over the past year or so and you have to give a small blood sample for testing even before you can donate.

I think the fine is kind of steep as it only seems to involve one blood donation center if I read the article correctly.
 
357
2006-11-27 10:37:13 PM  
So who is going to fine the Feds for the Hurricane Katrina farkups?
 
2006-11-27 10:39:09 PM  
This fine is for unsafe practices in one specific facility in Rochester, NY.

Oh hey, right near my oollege. Hopefully I won't bleed suffer from any massive bleeding while I'm there...
 
2006-11-27 10:41:10 PM  
Does the red cross still not allow men who have had sex with men to donate? I heard they may be changing that this summer, but I may be wrong.
/Ran a blood drive this summer
//Upward Bound kids kicked ass!
 
2006-11-27 10:42:22 PM  
My daughter had open heart surgery 3 years ago and I got my friends and family to donate for her (I was unable to donate because I lived in England during the mad cow scare -- totally stupid but there you go). She got 9 units of blood and I know where it came from. Now, if there was an emergency I would have been happy to take my chances and get anonymous blood, but since I had a choice... I took it.
 
2006-11-27 10:46:23 PM  
does this mean I shouldn't donate tomorrow. Near Buffalo area.
 
2006-11-27 10:47:50 PM  
Good call, Noodl'l'ette
and keep yourn in close.
or as it may be.
however you speak the language,
That you might be understood.
Had a conversation in 3 languages otday for a good reason.
Good to know who you can count on.
 
2006-11-27 10:48:15 PM  
AGAIN? I remember this from several weeks ago, I smell a repeat...
 
2006-11-27 10:49:58 PM  
Oh, crud.
And I've got laundry to do.
Ya want my popcorn?
 
2006-11-27 10:51:02 PM  
357: So who is going to fine the Feds for the Hurricane Katrina farkups?


There's a difference between actively harming people and passively not helping them.
 
2006-11-27 10:51:20 PM  
got some Mike 'n' Ikes.
 
2006-11-27 10:52:30 PM  
Godmound, Churchill, Heavenprivey, here, take the mike
('n' Ikes)
 
2006-11-27 10:54:33 PM  
BTW, thast's totally drunk camp.
sheieriousgly...
If I can't do drag on the net, no one can.
[acting]
and ~~~scene.
seriously, take the Mike 'n' Ikes.
 
2006-11-27 11:02:29 PM  
So, is there a website where one could fine what the Red Cross was actually charged with? I'm curious if they just weren't blocking gay men from donating blood or if the violations were really serious.
 
2006-11-27 11:03:59 PM  
Captain Coffee

The federal government should have all military personell donate a pint of blood every 2 months and we would never have a blood shortage again.


I bet you'd be shocked and amazed to find out that nearly everyone in the military (and a substantial number of their families) already donate regularly. When I was in the Army, and this was just a few years ago, there was ALWAYS a blood drive going on. They actually had to make a rotating schedule so that every company didn't try to go down and donate at the same time. Also, once you got on the same schedule as your unit, it was easier to remember when to go. Everybody donated blood. I donated regularly the whole time I was in Korea, but then (oh the irony) when I got back to the states they wouldn't take my blood for a year because I had been north of the imjin river. But just about everybody in the military who can already does give blood.

I suspect that you have some kind of prejudice that caused you to assume this was not the case.
 
2006-11-27 11:09:18 PM  
Mr. Bitterness
I like this line of thinking. Plus I they could use it on themselves what with the getting shot with bullets and all.

And they could share some with Canada 'cause they keep spilling ours.
 
2006-11-27 11:11:31 PM  
Crap. I've got an appointment tomorrow to donate. At least I'm not in NY.

/Been donating blood for years and years.
//Platelets, too.
///Kidney, anyone? Going once...
 
2006-11-27 11:12:03 PM  
DisobedientMuffin: Banking your own blood is still the only way to go.

Yep. No one can touch my 40 plastic cups I keep under my bed.
You know, along with my jar of toenails, jar of urine...
 
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