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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Orrin Hatch concedes the new Congress should have enough votes to pass stem cell research, even to override a Presidential veto   (sltrib.com) divider line 534
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2006-11-24 05:27:31 PM
Sunny Ray: Long wire hangers?

Now, THAT's the kinda of out-of-the-box thinking that's gonna make us rich, Bwah!

/heh-heh-heh
//I said "box"...
 
2006-11-24 05:28:09 PM
Zaphodius

Sunny Ray: Again, thanks for the information. Basically, a lot of embryos that will be killed via dumpster, could be used by Government and Private researchers for stem cell purposes, correct?

yep



That supposes that a lot of embryos SHOULD be in the dumpster.

yep.


/suck it libs
//TotalFark stud
 
2006-11-24 05:29:39 PM
Long wire hangers?

img292.imageshack.us

/li'l obscure?
 
2006-11-24 05:30:45 PM
HellbentForLeather: That supposes that a lot of embryos SHOULD be in the dumpster.

I'm sure I can think of at least one that should have.
 
2006-11-24 05:31:30 PM
spelunking_defenestrator

/li'l obscure?

Only if you are a retard or TotalFark stud HellbentForLeather.
 
2006-11-24 05:32:41 PM
spelunking_defenestrator: li'l obscure?

not at all

Do you remember the BOC song about Joan Crawford? Can't remember the exact title...
 
2006-11-24 05:35:03 PM
Zaphodius

HellbentForLeather: That supposes that a lot of embryos SHOULD be in the dumpster.

I'm sure I can think of at least one that should have.



You sound unhappy. Why so down?

If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. I'm here for you, man.


/suck it libs
//TotalFark stud
 
2006-11-24 05:35:18 PM
spelunking_defenestrator: bon jou'

long time, no sniff, senor spelunkabadunkadonk

Zaphodius: Can't remember the exact title...

i think it was just that...'joan crawford'.
 
2006-11-24 05:35:27 PM
Sunny Ray

Well, you know, the kids these days, they don't appreciate the fine thea-ter.

Zaphodius

I only know the one that goes "You're gonna meet the reaper, and he's gonna kill you up, lalalalala!" or some shiat like that. :? :D
 
2006-11-24 05:38:23 PM
heap: i think it was just that...'joan crawford'.

I was thinking along the lines of Joan Crawford mus die, or is dead... hmmm let me GIS it... yep... just Joan Crawford off of the Fire of Unknown Origin album. Great Album by the way
 
2006-11-24 05:39:36 PM
spelunking_defenestrator

I bet you could have posted a Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy reference and, TotalFark stud, HellbentForLeather would have been all over it.
 
2006-11-24 05:41:03 PM
spelunking_defenestrator: I only know the one that goes "You're gonna meet the reaper, and he's gonna kill you up, lalalalala!" or some shiat like that. :? :D

yeah, it was Don't Fear the Reaper... it was what put them on the map so to speak...
 
2006-11-24 05:42:35 PM
Sunny Ray: I bet you could have posted a Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy reference and, TotalFark stud, HellbentForLeather would have been all over it.

I'm surprised he didn't get it as he's into that leather crownd from that period.
 
2006-11-24 05:46:28 PM
Private funding for stem cell research...

"The secular-minded billionaires are throwing their dollars at the embryonic stem cell researchers. Some of the names worth mentioning are Eli Broad, who is donating some of his $6 billion fortune; Ray Dolby of Dolby sound fame; Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle; Michael Bloomberg, the current millionaire mayor of New York City; and Bill Gates of Microsoft fame."

Forbes Magazine Sept. 4, 2006
 
2006-11-24 05:49:12 PM
Anyway, President Bush's opposition to government funded embryonic stem cell research because of the little souls or potential souls being used is just being way backwards and probably a little bit retarded.
 
2006-11-24 05:50:09 PM
Sunny Ray: Anyway, President Bush's opposition to government funded embryonic stem cell research because of the little souls or potential souls being used is just being way backwards and probably a little bit retarded.

it had everything to do with votes and nothing to do with right or wrong.
 
2006-11-24 05:50:38 PM
Inch-think turkey sandwiches, plenty of beer and devastating whidbey on Fark.com.

GOD D*MN, but it doesn't get any better than this.


/suck it libs
//TotalFark stud
 
2006-11-24 05:51:23 PM
Say that a little louder, Hellbent.

I don't think the mods heard you.
 
2006-11-24 05:53:35 PM
Zaphodius

So, he was be disingenuous when he said that stuff?
 
2006-11-24 05:54:16 PM
420?
 
2006-11-24 05:55:03 PM
whidbey

I must have missed the part where HellbentForLeather devastated you. Is there a recap?
 
2006-11-24 05:55:14 PM
Sunny Ray: So, he was be disingenuous when he said that stuff?

has he ever been honest when he could pander to the base and insult the other 95%of the world
 
2006-11-24 05:55:31 PM
poopshovel

And by the way, Judas Priest sucks balls

Actually, as far as we know, only ONE MEMBER of Judas Priest sucks balls, right Hellbent?

HAHHHAHAHA!!!!!
 
2006-11-24 05:55:48 PM
Sunny Ray: I must have missed the part where HellbentForLeather devastated you. Is there a recap?

Frankly, I'm surprised any of his posts are still here.
 
2006-11-24 05:56:07 PM
Forbes (via mmm...pancake): secular-minded billionaires

Why "secular-minded" billionaires? I'm sure out of the five of them, one of them must be a religious man and not necessarily donating his money in order to prove some point about the separation of church and state. Is Forbes pushing an agenda here, that stem cell funding should not be provided by the government?

This may or may not be a good argument. If private funding can meet the needs of research, fine, so be it, no gov't money may be necessary. But, the government has influence other than financial influence; it does not have to provide funding, but in addition it should cede the right to regulate.

It's not a separation of church and state, but a separation of science and state that is necessary, and here I think is where Forbes misses the point. The only role the government should have is in oversight of abuses, not what it can and cannot study, such as what we have now.
 
2006-11-24 05:56:11 PM
Dancin_In_Anson: Stem cell research is quite legal in the US.

Stem cell research is legal in the US. However, to receive gov't funds, you can only conduct research on specific stem cell lines which were created several years ago. And those lines have been shown to be contaminated with mammalian (mice, I think) growth factors, which effectively renders them useless (or, at best, nearly useless) for research.

Any attempts to create a new line or to utilize newly created lines will result in withdrawal of gov't funding. So, you're correct that it is legal. However, it's unsupported by the government, unless you want to spend your time using poor quality specimens that have a significant chance of invalidating the research you have been conducting.
 
2006-11-24 05:56:52 PM
BrotherAlpha: How is scientific research private enterprise?

You're kidding, right? Or do I need to list the industries that conduct scientific research in order to develop products and procedures for profit?

Please tell me I don't.

spucky: A lot of basic research is funded through the government.

No shiat? The government funds a wide range of shiat they have no business funding. What's your point?

Deucednuisance: So, government can never fund anything that might possibly be done by a private enterprise?

No, they shouldn't. Big difference. Government can spend money on damn near anything they want. Doesn't make it right, does it?
 
2006-11-24 05:57:17 PM
Sunny Ray: I must have missed the part where HellbentForLeather devastated you. Is there a recap?

I'm sure in his own little world he has... over and over...
 
2006-11-24 05:58:06 PM
We need to be able to send PMs in Fark or TF already. Or, at least, have a certain rock hound post his email address in his profile.
 
2006-11-24 05:58:52 PM
The_Former_BV: Stem cell research is legal in the US


So what's the problem?


Oh, right...John Q. Taxpayer isn't picking up the tab for the research...
 
2006-11-24 05:59:03 PM
Holy sweet jebus I'm blind. I retract my "post his email" comment, cuz it's in BRIGHT RED LETTERING!!
 
2006-11-24 05:59:32 PM
Zaphodius

yeah, it was Don't Fear the Reaper... it was what put them on the map so to speak...

img300.imageshack.us

MORE COWBELL!!!!!
 
2006-11-24 05:59:34 PM
Inch-think turkey sandwiches, plenty of beer and devastating whidbey on Fark.com.

GOD D*MN, but it doesn't get any better than this.


I can do better:

Tazing the retarded, nude hula-hooping, and overdosing on terrifying psychotropic drugs.

GOD D*MN!
 
2006-11-24 05:59:50 PM
Wait, what does that naked guy from the first season of Survivor have to do with Congress?

/god, they'll interview anyone these days.
 
2006-11-24 06:00:45 PM
At the risk of making everybody sick, I just got a vision of HellbentForLeather spanking it to Bob Halford in a wild frenzy of killing future embryonic stem cell research projects. He cares that much.
 
2006-11-24 06:01:50 PM
It's a damn shame that an obvious Priest fan is such a douchebag.

/that's all I came to say, other than 420
 
2006-11-24 06:02:28 PM
whidbey

Sunny Ray: I must have missed the part where HellbentForLeather devastated you. Is there a recap?

Frankly, I'm surprised any of his posts are still here.



I'm suprisied YOU'RE still here. Remember this?


No, it's the end for you. You're the weakest link.

I warned you man. Goodbye.



Funny, I thought you were bidding me farewell.


/suck it libs
//TotalFark stud
 
2006-11-24 06:03:06 PM
spelunking_defenestrator: Tazing the retarded, nude hula-hooping, and overdosing on terrifying psychotropic drugs.

we'll I've experienced 2 out of three there... sorry no tazing in my history.
 
2006-11-24 06:06:18 PM
mmm... pancake: Stem cell research is not illegal. The issue is whether not people should be forced to fund it via taxation. I support stem cell research but I oppose funding through the taxation of people who may have a moral objection to it.


Do you oppose funding for the war in Iraq through the taxation of people who may have a moral objection to it?



HellbentForLeather: It's good to be king.

I'll bet it is. But back to reality for a bit, I have to ask you, drawing on your personal experience, is it good to be the village idiot?
 
2006-11-24 06:06:41 PM
Zaphodius: sorry no tazing in my history.

it doesn't really enhance the other two items on the list very much...but the other two can lead to it.
 
2006-11-24 06:06:55 PM
You know, I find it funny that we can spend a billion dollars a day in the middle east, and can't find enough money to clean uranium waste out of open land in New Mexico, Arizona and Utah.

I think it's insane that the richest 1% of the country received the majority share of the tax benefits brought by the Bush Tax Cuts, and meanwhile the corporate tax loopholes ensure that people that rich barely pay anything out of their own pockets anyway.

Maybe some of the money from those two unbelievably massive blunders could go toward fixing the three aformentioned states (and by doing so, giving a big "we're sorry" to the Navajo reservations our government allowed to be contaminated) and we could use what's left over to find a better solution than Yucca Mtn in Nevada.

Maybe THEN we can put some more money in to stem cells.

/pro-choice and pro-stem cell research
//not pro-"find the solution before trying to fix the problem"
 
2006-11-24 06:07:31 PM
D_I_A - So what's the problem?

Tead the rest of my post. In order to get government funding, you have to be willing to have ALL of your research invalidated by using contaminated samples.

Otherwise, you leave the research up to private corporations that are forced to shoulder the complete burden of the ENTIRE research and development cycle, which could run into the hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars spent before gaining anything in return. That kind of loss would be enough to discourage most companies from performing the initial research.
 
2006-11-24 06:07:53 PM
What am I saying? The tax cut money alone could have paid for half the Iraq war.
 
2006-11-24 06:08:33 PM
www.speednet.name
 
2006-11-24 06:08:58 PM
You guys are still going? This thread is almost as gay as Judas Priest-

www.hankolsen.com

/Rob sucks it already
 
2006-11-24 06:11:31 PM
I would just like to take this opportunity to congratulate HellbentForLeather for being the most open-minded Republican I've ever met. After all, how many other Republicans have a gay man as their hero?

Kudos to you, sir, kudos. :)

/NTTAWWT...
 
2006-11-24 06:11:43 PM
HellbentForLeather: Funny, I thought you were bidding me farewell.

Believe me, if you're not banned by the end of the day, consider your days numbered.

You're just about the smugest asshole I've ever seen here.
 
2006-11-24 06:15:03 PM
knobmaker

I have to ask you, drawing on your personal experience, is it good to be the village idiot?


Though it's been said before, your handle really should be: knobgiver


/suck it libs
//TotalFark stud
///me drinky LOTS today, and its DAMNED GOOD!
 
2006-11-24 06:15:20 PM
HellbentForLeather is one of those people that don't even realize when they are getting their ass handed to them. On the other hand, I am sure that he would gladly hand Rob Halford his ass.
 
2006-11-24 06:15:32 PM
Still waiting for a definition...
 
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