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(Some Guy)   "After being decapitated, the average person remains conscious for an additional 15-20 seconds. Talk about a way to go."   (lifeinsure.com) divider line 180
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2006-11-22 10:36:48 AM
in all honesty, while the dog video made me want to join P.E.T.A.- albeit briefly- I think the video is a hoax.
Is anybody else thinking along the same lines?
 
2006-11-22 10:37:11 AM
ted williams. anyone? anyone?
 
2006-11-22 10:39:12 AM
rocket333d

When I'm an old lady, I want to sled off Mount Everest and have it timed for posterity.

I like to keep things realistic. I'm going to shoot down Mount Robson's north face on a flying saucer sled and try to ride it out into the lake.
 
2006-11-22 10:39:25 AM
if certain things remain intact and someone is willing to make money, I'd say 6 months.

http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/story.html
 
2006-11-22 10:40:16 AM
brap: My last thought would probably be "Finally the perfect basket for periodicals!"

I found that to be fking hilarious
 
2006-11-22 10:40:18 AM
Sorry, here is the hyperlinky friendly version:

Mike the Headless Chicken
 
2006-11-22 10:42:08 AM
Mike had the back part of his brain. He was actually a faceless chicken. Creepy as hell though.
 
2006-11-22 10:50:38 AM
So how many interviews of the recently decapitated did they have to conduct in order to arrive at this figure?

"Blink if you're still conscious, Mr. No-Body."
 
2006-11-22 10:51:55 AM
this is really old news, i heard this when i was maybe 12 years old, and from that day on i vowed to cut off my head and chuck it down the grand canyon when i wanted to die.

/anyone else as farked up as i?
//am almost 23 now
 
2006-11-22 10:55:53 AM
owtytrof

I was referring to the original article, but that Gantz show sounds really cool. I'll have to check it out.
 
2006-11-22 10:56:29 AM
mpv81

in all honesty, while the dog video made me want to join P.E.T.A.- albeit briefly- I think the video is a hoax.
Is anybody else thinking along the same lines?


The advanced medical care we enjoy comes at a price.
Suck it up.
 
2006-11-22 10:57:16 AM
For those who wants the story of this video:

Experiments in the Revival of Organisms

Experiments in the Revival of Organisms is a 1940 motion picture which documents Soviet research into the resuscitation of clinically dead organisms. It is available from the Prelinger Archives, where it is in the public domain. The British scientist J. B. S. Haldane appears in the film's introduction and narrates the film, which contains Russian text with English applied next to, or over the top of, the Russian. The operations are credited to Doctor Sergei S. Bryukhonenko.
 
2006-11-22 10:57:52 AM
What I want to know is how they determine that sight goes first and hearing goes last when you die. How would you ever know that?!?! Hmmm...maybe people who died and were resuscitated?
 
2006-11-22 11:01:21 AM
Well fellas... it's kind of permanent, but finally here's a chance to suck your own cack.
 
2006-11-22 11:01:45 AM
saint2e

And if you do get it, get the box sets and not the individual dvds. It's a better deal and watching 2 episodes at a time will be frustrating.

/just finished watching season one
 
2006-11-22 11:02:17 AM
Roach doesn't starve to death, it dies from dehydration..

IS anything in that article right?????
 
2006-11-22 11:06:19 AM
saint2e

My bad, I was actually answering pookeywan. I grabbed the wrong username.

pookeywan

See my previous post.
 
Ant
2006-11-22 11:07:00 AM
Chariset: Incidentally, there was at least one instance in which Russian scientists kept a severed dog head alive (or at least, able to react reflexively).

Video link here: Clicky (pops)


How was the dog in that video moving its head?
 
2006-11-22 11:09:00 AM
Shinanigans!

You can knock a person out with one hand on the neck or a choke hold in less than 5 seconds. You just need to put pressure on the correct spot to stop blood flow to the brain.

Hell, I can do the same with one finger in the armpit (weird but true).

I've done it to others and had it done to me. It's an interesting self-defense exercise, but the headache that follows is not fun. No way a severed head could stay aware for more than a second or two... unless you turned it upside-down so the blood didn't drain out.

Hmmmm... I may be on to something.

/Hap-Ki-Do for teh win.
 
Ant
2006-11-22 11:09:58 AM
nocturn: Mary Roach - Stiff

Check it out fellas, good book.


Seconded
 
2006-11-22 11:16:30 AM
farkus888: I thought I was the only person I would ever talked to who had watched that except the guy I watched it with

Nope,

Quite enjoyed it, but thought that the hot chick that rode the motorcycle should have lasted to the end.
 
2006-11-22 11:19:09 AM
I've seen turtle heads stay alive for long periods (not timed, but 15 minutes would be conservative). They could still chomp on sticks put near (in) the mouth. Not to mention the blinking eyes.
Now that I think about it, I've witnessed many animals losing their heads to a hatchet / axe.
/Grandpa was a butcherin' machine.
//Gather the grandkids for a nice game of catch the headless chickens!
 
2006-11-22 11:19:59 AM
ANT: How was the dog in that video moving its head?

Excellent point. Also, with blood pumping into the head, why wasn't it spilling out anywhere. It looked a little too clean.

dfenstrate
The advanced medical care we enjoy comes at a price.
Suck it up.


No shiat tough guy. Let me guess, you were the only kid on your block that didn't cry when you watched Old Yeller get shot, right... right... i'm right aren't I?

I'm simply saying that it still bothered me (since I've owned a few dogs), and that it looked fake. (Camera angle, and a few other things).
 
2006-11-22 11:22:29 AM
The idea of being beheaded makes me feel sick. The execution scene from the beginning of Papillon, when the guy's screaming just stops mid-flow, has always bothered me. Gives me the chills.
 
2006-11-22 11:23:07 AM
2006-11-22 12:23:23 AM RocketRod [TotalFark]

But on the plus side, you might just be able to check out that little bump on your mid-back... finally.


......................................................

Try a camera
 
2006-11-22 11:25:24 AM
mpv81
There's an educational films expert in the wiki article linked by Illfindsomething that agrees with you.
Whether that video is fake or not does not mean that they did not actually do these types of experiments as also mentioned in that same wiki article.
 
2006-11-22 11:29:12 AM
>>>helix400>>>

Here's the dog head video:

shenaniganski.
 
2006-11-22 11:31:05 AM
the brain feeds off of nutrients and such that is in blood.

Um, nope, not at all. If your brain is mixing with blood, yo have troubles my friend. There is cerebrospinal fluid, and that takes the nutrients and oxygen from the blood and THEN delivers it to central nervous system tissue.

Cartilage has a somewhat similiar mechanism. It is not inervated.

Interestingly enough, a guys nads also have something like this, nurse, or sustentacular cells. While females have eggs in their system from birth, males do not have spermatozoa in their bodies until puberty. Because of this, their immunity system does not recognize your swimming fellas as "part" of you, and if your blood cells encountered them, they would see it as one heck of an infection. Sustentacluar cells surround those parts of your nads that hold/create/arm your lil soldiers, take oxygen/nutrients from bloodstream, tell the white blood cells "ain't no thang" and then give it up to the swimmers.

Oh, and the dog thing is creepy, but in a cool, gross, hey that's neat kind of way
 
2006-11-22 11:35:13 AM
Mushi-shi: What I want to know is how they determine that sight goes first and hearing goes last when you die. How would you ever know that?!?! Hmmm...maybe people who died and were resuscitated?

Just a guess, but maybe they are monitoring the brain at time of death, and they watch the neural centers that continue to respond to stimuli correlating to sight, hearing, etc. As they see each area of the brain shut down, they can tell which parts remain responsive for the longest period of time.

//total guess
//good bullshiatter on term papers
 
2006-11-22 11:38:44 AM
I do remember from A&P the "chart" of the brain that correlated areas with body parts and or senses, google it, take a look after dropping some tabs, could make for an interesting Thanksgiving
 
2006-11-22 11:45:23 AM
mpv81 - in all honesty, while the dog video made me want to join P.E.T.A.- albeit briefly- I think the video is a hoax.
Is anybody else thinking along the same lines?


Yep, I was thinking "Dorf on Golf."

It looks like they've just got the dog strapped to the underside of the table with his head poking through a hole...

...and floating lazily along on a very heavy sedative.
 
2006-11-22 11:47:25 AM
That's no way to get ahead in life.

/Sorry
 
2006-11-22 11:49:06 AM
Also... the one and only shot where you can truly see that there is no body, the head looks very different than the moving one does... like someone tried (and mostly failed) to do mock-up of the real dog's head.

Either way, just the thought of it was creepy enough, and the dog cute enough, that I want to give my dog a big hug when I get home.
 
2006-11-22 11:56:38 AM
Here's a picture I found very disturbing when I stumbled on it a while back. It's on Snopes, a guy being chased by cops jumped off an overpass and his head got stuck on the top of a wrought iron fence below:

***NSFW - Not Safe for Lunch***

http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/decapitation.asp

***NSFW - Not Safe for Lunch***
 
2006-11-22 11:56:54 AM
From the decapitation movies I've seen on the internet I have detected no responsiveness from removed heads. Not a scientific study, but there actually is quite a bit of footage out there.

/why is it "those people" favor decap so much
 
2006-11-22 11:57:02 AM
That's a damn good guess though, The Damned Swede. I forget we have the technologies.
 
2006-11-22 11:58:25 AM
mathmatix
held shift key with nose while typing with tongue...

There are some farkettes waiting to see you...
 
2006-11-22 11:59:58 AM
Why thank you, RsquaredWM! Your geek rating is through the roof (in the nicest possible way)... thanks for validating my suspicions. No need to get Adam and Jamie to send Buster up there to try it out, then.
 
2006-11-22 12:08:15 PM
farcus888:
I thought I was the only person I would ever talked to who...

You are talking to who again exactly?
 
2006-11-22 12:14:24 PM
The Straight Dope

...I received a note from a U.S. Army veteran who had been stationed in Korea. In June 1989 the taxi he and a friend were riding in collided with a truck. My correspondent was pinned in the wreckage. The friend was decapitated. Here's what happened:

My friend's head came to rest face up, and (from my angle) upside-down. As I watched, his mouth opened and closed no less than two times. The facial expressions he displayed were first of shock or confusion, followed by terror or grief. I cannot exaggerate and say that he was looking all around, but he did display ocular movement in that his eyes moved from me, to his body, and back to me. He had direct eye contact with me when his eyes took on a hazy, absent expression . . . and he was dead.

I have spoken with the author and am satisfied that the event occurred as described. One can of course never be certain about these things. Nonetheless I repent my previous skepticism.


So...yeah.

/shudder
 
2006-11-22 12:20:19 PM
technicolor-misfit - Also... the one and only shot where you can truly see that there is no body, the head looks very different than the moving one does... like someone tried (and mostly failed) to do mock-up of the real dog's head.

Just to add, it occurs to me that I was thinking too much along the lines of not actually hurting a dog to make the film.

It could very well be a real head removed from a dog of the same breed... either way, they just didn't look the same to me.
 
2006-11-22 12:24:59 PM
They did head transplants with monkeys back in the 70s. They didn't attach all the nerves to the new head but connected the blood vessels and the head was conscious and responsive.

Poor damn monkeys.

Photo not safe for animal lovers
 
2006-11-22 12:29:15 PM
MooseBayou: Funny thing about pain, especially major pain, is that there's a blocking mechanism right at the point of occurrence. When I cut my thumb off...

Wait, go back... God dammit, don't just throw "When I cut my thumb off" into a sentence like it was your morning piss. We need some backstory first.
 
2006-11-22 12:32:15 PM
I remember hearing how during the middle ages with the purges and witch hunts, they'd have these contests. They'd have the people that were going to be executed in a field somewhere, and tell them to run, that they will be free if they can get away. Right when they start running, they lop their head off, and the body would continue to run for a little while.

The contest was to see which headless body would travel the farthest before falling over. One guy supposedly got 20 yards.

Talk about grim.
 
2006-11-22 12:35:48 PM
owtytrof:

Got it. Thanks!
 
Ant
2006-11-22 12:36:17 PM
technicolor-misfit: Here's a picture I found very disturbing when I stumbled on it a while back. It's on Snopes, a guy being chased by cops jumped off an overpass and his head got stuck on the top of a wrought iron fence below:

It looks like the fence spike went through the back of his skull, or maybe just underneath where the spine joins with the skull, and ripped his head right off. Strangely, it wasn't quite as gross as I thought it would be. Maybe I'm just sick...
 
2006-11-22 12:36:56 PM
mpv81: No shiat tough guy. Let me guess, you were the only kid on your block that didn't cry when you watched Old Yeller get shot, right... right... i'm right aren't I?

Wait, what? Old Yeller got shot? No *SPOILER* warning, or anything?

/dammit
 
2006-11-22 12:38:46 PM
Damn right I cried when Ol Yeller died, poor dog, that little boy was an ass
 
2006-11-22 12:50:44 PM
I'd just like to say if I was decapitated I would blink "F U" in Morse Code.

I've been practicing.
 
2006-11-22 12:54:07 PM
I use number 17 is my basis for comparison on damn near everything; glad to see it re-printed along with number one/headline
 
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