Syrianknown, really.

This is going to end well.

Shoulda stood on the sunni side of the street.

Who do you think you are, Stephen Colbert?

I am beginning to think that Iraq and Afghanistan were just opening skirmishes of something much bigger soon to come.

Oh and lemme guess IRAN IRAN so far away...

So, was the shooter an atheist?

The state of Lebanon today relative to Lebanon decades ago is a great illustration of the viability of a palestinian state and the beneficial aspects of arab governments generally.

Why does the BBC picture take you to Yahoo news?

bring on WWIII

Call in the Israelis. I bet they would be willing to defend Lebanon if Hezballa is given up and they get a shot at Syria.

Glass. Parking. Lot.

OH SHI-

"This is how we roll in Damascus."

I'm ascared

This could lead to violence in the Middle East.

Well that's one Christian who won't doubt the "Religion of Peace"^TM again.

/beirut

Lerxst2k
Maybe, but the whole thing with Lebanon has been going on since the 70s. If anything, I see this reminding the Lebanese of the assassination of their former prime minister by Syria. As Hezbollah is Syria/Iran's biatch, I do not see this helping them win over the population of Lebanon. Lebanon was in a good position until Nasrallah and his buddies decided to piss off Israel. It was literally exactly what everyone hopes and dreams the Middle East could one day be. Really hope the Lebanese will be able to kick Nasrallah and his cronies out without significant bloodshed.

Im Christian, does this give me a valid excuse to riot and burn down my local KFC?

Mmmmm Lesbanese ass ass ins :)

O Isreally?

DrGunsforHands

It was literally exactly what everyone hopes and dreams the Middle East could one day be.

A puppet state for a totalitarian regime with a large population of murderous terrorists that it can barely restrain?

A veritable Damascene Disney Land!

/actually you're point is a good one, but it just demonstrates how low the realistic hopes for this region actually are

Good job Israel. You've destabilized the most progressive, modern, democratic Arab country. Pat yourselves on the farking back, morons.

fernandez

Im Christian, does this give me a valid excuse to riot and burn down my local KFC?

Sorry you'd have to convert to the religion of peace first.



"
(AP) Six people were killed when a KFC restaurant was set on fire by a mob angry about a suicide attack on a Shiite mosque in Karachi, bringing the overall death toll to 11, police said Tuesday.

The fast-food chicken restaurant was targeted in overnight rioting after Monday's attack on the Madinatul Ilm Imambargah mosque, where three assailants clashed with police before exploding a bomb in violence that killed two attackers, two policemen and one worshipper and wounded 26 others.

Four of the victims at the restaurant were burned to death, while the two others died after taking refuge in a refrigeration unit, senior police official Manzoor Mughal said. The six bodies were recovered Tuesday, bringing the overall death toll in the southern port city of Karachi to 11, he said.

Sunni Muslim extremists were suspected in the mosque attack, and it was unclear why KFC was targeted in retaliatory rioting, along with arson attacks on vehicles, shops, three bank branches and three gas stations. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/31/world/main698614.shtml

God damned Israelis.

czarangelus: Good job Israel. You've destabilized the most progressive, modern, democratic Arab country. Pat yourselves on the farking back, morons.

Isn't that like calling Mike Tyson the most progressive athlete?

czarangelus [TotalFark]

Good job Israel. You've destabilized the most progressive, modern, democratic Arab country. Pat yourselves on the farking back, morons.

On 9/11 "an Italian journalist in Beirut reported:

Trying to find our bearings, my husband and I went into an American-style cafe in the Hamra district, near Rue Verdun, rated as one of the most expensive shopping streets in the world. Here the cognitive dissonance was immediate, and direct. The café's sophisticated clientele was celebrating, laughing, cheering and making jokes, as waiters served hamburgers and Diet Pepsi. Nobody looked shocked, or moved. They were excited, very excited.

An hour later, at a little market near the U.S. Embassy, on the outskirts of Beirut, a thrilled shop assistant showed us, using his hands, how the plane had crashed into the twin towers. He, too, was laughing.

Once back at the house where we were staying, we started scanning the international channels. Soon came reports of Palestinians celebrating. The BBC reporter in Jerusalem said it was only a tiny minority. Astonished, we asked some moderate Arabs if that was the case. "Nonsense," said one, speaking for many. "Ninety percent of the Arab world believes that Americans got what they deserved."

An exaggeration? Rather an understatement. A couple of days later, we headed north to Tripoli, near the Syrian border. On the way, we read that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who donated blood in front of the cameras, was rejecting any suggestion that his people were rejoicing over the terrorist attack. "It was less than 10 children in Jerusalem," he said."


/Fark Lebanon.

Link for my previous post

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.htm

beoswulf:

I'm sure their sentiments have nothing to do with the fact that we sell Israelis bombs to drop on their country.

<troll>
I'm impressed. I thought a Christian getting shot would have gotten a hero tag on fark.
<\troll>

czrangelaeslgaus

Good job Israel. You've destabilized the most progressive, modern, democratic Arab country. Pat yourselves on the farking back, morons.

You heard it hear first, folks. The jews are the only autonomous human beings in the middle east it seems, and thus everything that occurs is directly their fault. I mean, whose else could it be?

The Lebanese know the truth.

czarangelus

The Lebanese know the truth.

Do you by any chance work for Reuters?

time for hot, lebanese action...

Just imagine how cheap KFC food would be if they didn't have the overhead expense of replacing stores that are constantly being burned down.

earthwirm: Iran and Syria need to pay. They need to be taught a very harsh lesson.

So, 60 million dead later in Syria, Iran, Israel, Iraq... and you will have gotten no closer to peace than you are today. You have lost in every respect.

czarangelus


Lebanese know the truth?


/So do Americans.

czarangelus: The Lebanese know the truth.

I guess the people that make the weapons for Hezbollah are free from blame, eh?

beoswulf: Lebanese know the truth?

oh shiite

Why so sunni?

czaranagelgsus

They say a picture tells a thousand words, and those ones are saying "I have no argument so here is some cheap emotional appeal" over and over and over.

BlindMan
I meant after they kicked out the Syrians. For a very short period, things were quite good. Then Syria began its plans to take back the country (through Hezbollah). The end result of the thing with Israel seems to be all that Syria could hope for and more. Israel shamed, Lebanon destabilized, and Hezbollah stronger than ever.

Also, back in the early 20th century, it was known as the Paris of the Middle East. It was a very nice place.

earthwirm: Nasrallah started the damn war.

The war started in the 1970's. Nasrallah didn't start it. Israel escalated it.

Hezbollah launched rockets from apt complexes knowing that Israel's mechanism for tracing launches was very accurate and thus ensuring collateral damage.

They kicked your ass. Call as many "fouls" as you want, but war doesn't operate according to the rules the Big Players want to institute to repress the smaller, weaker countries.

People in the northern parts of Israel lived in bomb shelters for 30 days.

Good. Maybe they'll think long and hard before bombing Beirut again. But they're Israelis, so probably not.

HumbleGenius - This could lead to violence in the Middle East.

Your insight is ground-shatteriing.

I know you have no idea what I'm talking about, beoswulf.



Here's a picture of a bastard child prophet of a lying slut raped by Roman soldiers.

czarangelus: Call as many "fouls" as you want, but war doesn't operate according to the rules the Big Players want to institute to repress the smaller, weaker countries.

Your terrorist apologies are really getting revolting.

beoswulf

Everything I ever needed to know about Islam...

And on the belt buckles of concentration camp guards: 'Gott Mit Uns'.
All I need to know about Christianity I learnt at Belsen?

/Yeah, I went there.
//Godwin is my homeboy.

As always (or not since the media never is curious enough to investigate)

Cui bono?

/ "How about you and him fight" is the oldest trick in the book
// aka "False Flag" attack
/// BTW, just how did Syria benefit from Rafik Harari's assasination???

untrustworthy: Your terrorist apologies are really getting revolting.

Are you stupid? Terrorism is the entire point of war. To suppress and frighten a population into surrendering. In what twisted bizarro universe do you live in which dropping cluster bombs on apartment buildings full of civilians does not constitute terrorism? Aren't those people terrified for the lives? Don't many of them lose them?

Of course, if Hezbollah had jets and were firing missiles into crowded city streets hoping to hit military units, you'd no doubt be licking their boots like you do the Israelis' eh?

earthwirm: 60million dead? When where? Is Stalin operating in the mid-east as we know it?

60 million dead after the exchange of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons between the aforementioned parties. But I'm sure you in your infinite knowledge know all about the Syrian chemical and bio weapons programs. And if you think Iran doesn't have them, your head's up your ass.

Israel should be held up as a model for the rest of the middle-east.

Other countries don't have enough military power to oppress and cage up entire civilizations.

This is in Lebanon, makes me giggle.

Sounds like a great idea to me. Czaragelus, don't rewrite the rules of war. I do not think these small countries as you put it would like the outcome.

Czaragelus is back spouting his extreme left wing version of history I see. Where is Tatsuma? We need his ultra right wing israeli bias to balance this BS out.

2006-11-21 01:23:49 PM czarangelus

I'm sure their sentiments have nothing to do with the fact that we sell Israelis bombs to drop on their country.

Actually the israeli's excell at missile/bomb technology and sell it to the US. US military exports to israel are primarily heavy assets such as aircraft and ships. Hell Israel even orders them gutted (essentially just a basic plane or boat with engines) and installs all thier own electronics since thiers are some of the worlds best. The more you know.

And last time i checked it wasn't the israeli's or the US that killed this guy and are demanding to be GIVIN additional seats in a ELECTED parliment.

czarangelus: Are you stupid? Terrorism is the entire point of war. To suppress and frighten a population into surrendering. In what twisted bizarro universe do you live in which dropping cluster bombs on apartment buildings full of civilians does not constitute terrorism? Aren't those people terrified for the lives? Don't many of them lose them?

Israel does not drop cluster bombs on apartment buildings to kill or frighten civilians. They do it to kill the terrorists who are hiding behind the innocents, and many of those "civilians" are actually terrorists themselves.

Of course, if Hezbollah had jets and were firing missiles into crowded city streets hoping to hit military units, you'd no doubt be licking their boots like you do the Israelis' eh?

Israel isn't trying to kill the innocent, Hezbollah is.

Again, your terrorist support is revolting.

Islamists always get jumpy on the trigger and prone to violence when they see their deity as incomplete.



/Wait till for the full moon and they'll be peaceful again.

US vetos investigation into massacre in Bint Hanoon. Pussies.



The Arab people - Tortured in Iraq, Stabbed in Palestine, Suffering Destruction in Lebanon

Bring on the dancing religion of peace please.

Good job Israel. You've destabilized the most progressive, modern, democratic Arab country. Pat yourselves on the farking back, morons.

Read a history book! Before the Syrian engineered civil war Lebanon was a mostly (75%) Christian country, now it's mostly Islamic. Can we say ethnic cleansing? Hezbollah was created by Syria as a way to attack Israel by proxy. Things in Lebanon are unstable because that is the way Syria wants it.

untrustworthy: Israel does not drop cluster bombs on apartment buildings to kill or frighten civilians.

So, if I fly an airplane into your house, you won't mind as long as I'm aiming at a cop car behind it? You're an idiot. Their families are just as dead no matter what Israel claims.

Israel isn't trying to kill the innocent, Hezbollah is.

They just sacrifice lives recklessly. Firing a missile into a crowded city street is par for the course for Israeli hypocrites and their even more damnable apologists.

earthwirm: Perhaps your hero Nasrallah should have thought it through a bit more before he crossed into Israel and started the damn war.

Perhaps Israel should release all the Lebanese prisoners never tried from the LAST war. Maybe they should dismantle settlements on Arab land. Maybe they should clear out the minefields they generously left behind to mutilate Lebanese children. Maybe they should stop violating their airspace upwards of 20 times a day.

Can you explain again how this is the fault of the joos, who are really the corporations, who sit in their corporation buildings, fly on corporation jets, snort corporation cocaine and get blown by corporation whores?

We need more Stetson undergrads with Rachel Corrie posters on their walls, spitting venom at the joos, championing anti-democratic terrorist and islamic movements and calling to our attention the evils of corporations and acting corporationy. They are the ones who know 'what's really going on'.

Wert789: Read a history book! Before the Syrian engineered civil war Lebanon was a mostly (75%) Christian country, now it's mostly Islamic. Can we say ethnic cleansing? Hezbollah was created by Syria as a way to attack Israel by proxy. Things in Lebanon are unstable because that is the way Syria wants it.

Uh, they were Arab Christians. Maronites. It's mostly Islamic now not because of ethnic cleansing but because the Shiites are poor and therefore have a much higher birthrate than the more wealthy Maronites. But don't let the facts enter into your bigotry, that just confuses things.

The only reason Lebanon could even begin to be called "the most progressive, modern, democratic Arab country" in the Arab world (which aint saying much) is because of the Christian element of their population.

You call Israel morons for destabilizing this situation, but if you ever spoke to a Christian Lebanese, the vast majority would tell you that they only wished that Israel would have been left alone to finish the job.

We all know ultimately who the culprits are in the region - and it's not the US, Israel or the more moderate Arab governments.

czarangelus [TotalFark]

www.aljazeerah.info

US vetos investigation into massacre in Bint Hanoon. Pussies.

www.aljazeerah.info

The Arab people - Tortured in Iraq, Stabbed in Palestine, Suffering Destruction in Lebanon

/a good start

//Never forget 9/11, never forgive Islam

ps69: Can you explain again how this is the fault of the joos, who are really the corporations, who sit in their corporation buildings, fly on corporation jets, snort corporation cocaine and get blown by corporation whores?

Because war is all about profit. Every bomb dropped is a cha-ching in somebody's cash register. They make an unbelievable fortune off war, since no one ever investigates the widespread corruption for fear of being called a traitor.

beoswulf: /a good start

//Never forget 9/11, never forgive Islam

So you will eat another 9/11, and another, and another, and another because the ones who aren't really people, the ones who are terrorists, the ones who started this war and keep it going for your own profit are you

czarangelus: It's mostly Islamic now not because of ethnic cleansing but because the Shiites are poor and therefore have a much higher birthrate than the more wealthy Maronites.

No. It's mostly Islamic because the Maronites fled the country because they feared persecution. Go to South America. That's where most of the Maronites are nowadays. And even though most of them are quite wealthy (at least by South American standards), they still have a very high birthrate.

czarangelus

Its very easy if Hezbollah stops its military wing and goes soley political no one in the world will call them a terrorist group.

Since Hezbollah refuses to give up its arms or to be incorporated into the Lebanese Army, than they indeed are the cause of the violence for Lebanon.

ladbag_06: Its very easy if Hezbollah stops its military wing and goes soley political no one in the world will call them a terrorist group.

They won't stop their military wing when IDF threatens their cities with sonic booms every day. You completely ignore the fact that Israel is doing everything in their power to provoke the Lebanese people.

earthwirm: Many lebanese balk at the term of being called arab.

Yeah yeah nobody likes admitting to their real ethnic group because there's nobody people can't tolerate more than those who are all too similar to themselves. Hence, Muslims and Israelis hating each other when they're the same damn thing.

"The Arab people - Tortured in Iraq, Stabbed in Palestine, Suffering Destruction in Lebanon"

As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

czarangelus: So, if I fly an airplane into your house, you won't mind as long as I'm aiming at a cop car behind it? You're an idiot. Their families are just as dead no matter what Israel claims.

Ooh, name calling. Awesome.

If you can't see the difference between terrorism and tactical strikes, then I'd hesitate to be calling anyone an idiot.

They just sacrifice lives recklessly. Firing a missile into a crowded city street is par for the course for Israeli hypocrites and their even more damnable apologists.

Again, they aren't trying to kill innocents. If they were, there'd be a lot more dead people. As it is the cowardly Hezbollah terrorists are hiding behind those innocents in hopes of sacrificing them in order to claim outrage against the Israelis.

One more time, your felating of the terrorist cause is really getting revolting.

http://pierre_gemayel.justgotowned.com/

untrustworthy: If you can't see the difference between terrorism and tactical strikes, then I'd hesitate to be calling anyone an idiot.

How does a terrorist attack that kills 10 civilians differ from a "tactical strike" that kills 10 civilians? I know the answer so don't bother. Because one kills Jews and the other kills Arabs (I haven't heard too many of you Christian traitors talking about all the Christians killed in Lebanon.)

czarangelus
What the hell are you talking about. That's exactly how war is supposed to operate. It's called the Geneva Conventions. Are you seriously advocating the dissolution of the Geneva Conventions? I don't think you'd like the consequences of such action.

There's a suggestion that this was a 'false flag' assassination -

I can't help but think this didn't do Syria any good - especially on the day they opened up diplomatic discussions with Iraq for the first time in 20 years - looks like someone may have wanted to stick a spanner in the works - and hijack the news headlines...

czarangelus has now indicated he is a cop killer, or would like to be if he got a hold of a......plane? That ain't how the song goes.

Isreal is not sacrificing lives, Hezbollah is creating the collateral damage themselves and are to blame for those losses of life. Stop trying to create some moral equivalence between Isreal and Hezbollah. Also double check what you know about war and what happens to land after it. Arab land or no, land is a spoil of war..tard.

"Yeah yeah nobody likes admitting to their real ethnic group because there's nobody people can't tolerate more than those who are all too similar to themselves. Hence, Muslims and Israelis hating each other when they're the same damn thing."
You are so right. These prehistoric tribal savages deserve each other. We need to get out of their way and let them do their utmost to improve the human gene pool.

2006-11-21 01:48:01 PM czarangelus

So, if I fly an airplane into your house, you won't mind as long as I'm aiming at a cop car behind it? You're an idiot. Their families are just as dead no matter what Israel claims.

If some asshole is behind my house shooting rockets at a neighboring country I will be smart enough to get my family the hell away from it as quickly as possible. Not bring the farkers tea while they do it and then cry when my house and family explodes as collateral damage.

2006-11-21 01:34:02 PM czarangelus

Call as many "fouls" as you want, but war doesn't operate according to the rules the Big Players want to institute to repress the smaller, weaker countries.

Then i don't want to hear any more biatching about civilian casualties. They know the rules and they, as well as the people that protect them, will suffer the consequenses of not following them. The rules are in place to protect the civillian population and the blame lies solely with the people who break them.

czarangelus: They won't stop their military wing when IDF threatens...

Lebanon has an army, right? Explain to me why they can't defend their homeland by joining the legitimate army.

who cares? this happened in another country. i'm in the US. i'm completely safe. me me me me me me me me me. not you.

czarangelus: How does a terrorist attack that kills 10 civilians differ from a "tactical strike" that kills 10 civilians? I know the answer so don't bother.

You obviously do not since one is actually targetting civilians in hopes of maximum collateral damage while the other is targeting military/terrorist targets with hopes of minimal collateral damage.

Because one kills Jews and the other kills Arabs (I haven't heard too many of you Christian traitors talking about all the Christians killed in Lebanon.)

This has nothing to do with Jews being better than Arabs or vice versa. This has to do with terrorism and the fight against it.

Haha czarangelus thinks jews eat babies.

Where are the horns?

Bill_Wick's_Friend: The second photo comes from NationalVanguard.org.

Like I know what the fark that is. I just use a GIS, and the truth shows.

ckirchen1: Isreal is not sacrificing lives,

Right. It's never the fault of the people killing children that they're killing children. It's always somebody elses' fault. Israel is the most transparent and pathetic of criminals, and their apologists are even more repugnant.

some people say: Lebanon has an army, right? Explain to me why they can't defend their homeland by joining the legitimate army.

The Lebanese Army sat out the war, remember? The people in the South were betrayed by their own army and government, and that's why Hezbollah is so furious. How dare they stand by and watch while Israeli pussies drop bombs on families from 30,000 feet? Die for your country cowards.

untrustworthy: This has nothing to do with Jews being better than Arabs or vice versa. This has to do with terrorism and the fight against it.

Right. And Arabs are terrorists and Jews are heroes. If a Jew kills a family, he's a hero. If an Arab kills a family, he's a terrorist. I know all about how these things work.

czarangelus: The Lebanese Army sat out the war, remember?

Why didn't the Lebanese army have any presence in the south when Israel attacked?

Well, lucky for me I have better things to do than listen to this shiat. I'm off to the store.

"Right. It's never the fault of the people killing children that they're killing children. It's always somebody elses' fault. Israel is the most transparent and pathetic of criminals, and their apologists are even more repugnant."

I have to stick up for czarangelus here. He's absolutely right. And those who say the exact same things about the Arabs/Palestinians are just as right.
When, oh when, are we outsiders going to stop interfering in these people's attempts to improve our world by eliminating each other from it?

czarangelus
"Right. It's never the fault of the people killing children that they're killing children. It's always somebody elses' fault. Israel is the most transparent and pathetic of criminals, and their apologists are even more repugnant."

Yeah, it's Isreal's fault that these children are put in harms way by a-hole terrorists. In this case it's Hezbollah's fault. If Hezbollah truly cared for those children they would find a different base of attack. That's like taking a kid to a strip club and blaming the strip club for showing the kid nudity. And you call me repugnant.

czarangelus
So, if Israeli soldiers brought children with them on their missions, you would blame the Palestinians if they killed the Israeli children while attempting to shoot the Israeli soldiers?

bin_smokin: Where is Tatsuma? We need his ultra right wing israeli bias to balance this BS out.

Tuesdays from 12:00 to 3:00, he drinks the blood of muslim babies, then goes to the temple to count his money.
/I keed, I keed
//seriously, where is he?

2006-11-21 02:01:39 PM czarangelus

The Lebanese Army sat out the war, remember? The people in the South were betrayed by their own army and government, and that's why Hezbollah is so furious. How dare they stand by and watch while Israeli pussies drop bombs on families from 30,000 feet? Die for your country cowards.

The lebanese Government and Army wants to remove hezbollah...the israeli's were doing them a favor and they knew it and allowed it to happen. Also if the Lebanese army had been obliterated by the israeli military it would have left lebanon firmly in hezbollah's hands.. But your limited forsight and very limited knowledge of middle eastern politics won't allow you to acknowledge this.

Right. And Arabs are terrorists and Jews are heroes. If a Jew kills a family, he's a hero. If an Arab kills a family, he's a terrorist. I know all about how these things work.

you are an uneducated bigot plain and simple...its is blantantly apparent by your consistant "Arab's can do know wrong" and "Jew's eat babies" style posts in dozens of discussion threads.

The fact is that that you have absolutly no ability or inclination with regard to interpreting and understanding intent.

Walking into a pizzaria and blowing up a bunch of teenagers = terrorism

Walking up to a military partol and blowing up a bunch of soldiers = resistance (unfortunatly they don't try this one much cause they are a bunch of sniveling cowards)

Robo Beat

bin_smokin: Where is Tatsuma? We need his ultra right wing israeli bias to balance this BS out.

Tuesdays from 12:00 to 3:00, he drinks the blood of muslim babies, then goes to the temple to count his money.
/I keed, I keed
//seriously, where is he?

In the Atheism thread.

Meanwhile, Syria shuffles its feet and whistles innocently.

czarangelus:

Uh, they were Arab Christians. Maronites. It's mostly Islamic now not because of ethnic cleansing but because the Shiites are poor and therefore have a much higher birthrate than the more wealthy Maronites. But don't let the facts enter into your bigotry, that just confuses things.

*****

cz, you might want to get off of Fark and go get some real life experiences behind your belt. Your lack thereof is really shining today my friend.

If you ever called a Maronite Lebanese an Arab you would in all probability be cockpunched. Repeatedly.

How do I know this? I was married to a Maronite Lebanese man for 10 years. Wonderful man.

He also supports Israel and wants Hezbollah out of the country of his birth. He considers them terrorists, as do all Lebanese Christians.

czarangelus: Right. And Arabs are terrorists and Jews are heroes. If a Jew kills a family, he's a hero. If an Arab kills a family, he's a terrorist. I know all about how these things work.

This is a really foolish statement given what I've been saying. If the Israelis were using terrorist tactics, I'd be criticizing them. If the "Arabs" were using tactical strikes because of Israeli terrorist attacks, I'd support them. But that's not what is happening.

You are very, very biased. And it's strange since you are supporting the terrorists who are actually trying to maximize casualties among the innocent bystanders. How the hell can anyone support that?

czarangelus: Well, lucky for me I have better things to do than listen to this shiat. I'm off to the store.

Ah, czarangelus is "seagulling" today. Nice.

Czarangelus

You know less about the meaning and purpose for war than you do about mideast politics. All you're doing is aligning your arguments to your own racist sentiments.

Did you sit there in your dorm room studying all those philosophies, picking and choosing that which made you comfortable, before you came out into the real world spouting your ideals?

War has many goals and many faces. Terrorism is a variation on the theme of 'war'. Not all war is conducted by the brainwashed wearing explosive belts into a crowded cafe, nor is it built and maneuvered by 100,000 professional soldiers. War is the result of people unable to resolve their differences, then finding that they have weapons close at hand. Professional soldiers seek and destroy the means for an enemy to conduct war, terrorists seek and attack social infrastructures.

As far as your indictment of Israel, or the 'traitor Christians', I question your moral authority on that statement, and your motive, and your experience, and your education. I think your ethos is revealed in your statements. Your variety of hate is not needed, valued, or aspired to other than in the minds of people like Osama. I think your simple default argument that Israel is orchestrating it all is intellectually bankrupt. Your argument that you are intellectually capable of perceiving the truth, and that the vast global conspiracy exists, is the stuff of an active imagination, preparing for a life of ease writing Hollywood screenplays.

The reason I say this is: Show me your evidence. Don't go on Google, perform an image search on "Rain", and tell me about global warming. Don't GIS "jihad" and show me an AK-47. Don't GIS "Hisbollah" and show me a freshly showered and clean shaven teenager on pile of rubble and tell me it's Israel's doing. You have no credibility.

bin_smokin Where is Tatsuma? We need his ultra right wing israeli bias to balance this BS out.

Probably joined the IDF.

Nobody thinks Israel did this to keep Syria in its place? Bwuahaha.

/there's no evidence of Syrian involvement, and it seems they didn't do the last thing they were accused of, either.

czarangelus

I was wondering, just for my records, do you actually believe even half the pompous illogical bullshiat propaganda you spew or is this just your hobby?

Demon of the Fall: I was wondering, just for my records, do you actually believe even half the pompous illogical bullshiat propaganda you spew or is this just your hobby?

He's still very young and has a stronge sense of self-importance. Only time will temper his radical and ill-conceived ideals. He's a pretty smart kid, but that definately doesn't make him wise. That's for damned sure.

untrustworthy:

czarangelus: Right. And Arabs are terrorists and Jews are heroes. If a Jew kills a family, he's a hero. If an Arab kills a family, he's a terrorist. I know all about how these things work.

This is a really foolish statement given what I've been saying. If the Israelis were using terrorist tactics, I'd be criticizing them. If the "Arabs" were using tactical strikes because of Israeli terrorist attacks, I'd support them. But that's not what is happening.

You are very, very biased. And it's strange since you are supporting the terrorists who are actually trying to maximize casualties among the innocent bystanders. How the hell can anyone support that?

*****

Take a look at czarangelus' profile. It screams "I don't have any real life experiences! - I haven't begun to live yet! But until then, I'll continue to talk out of my arse!".

He'll eventually grow up, we all do.

Holy shiite. This israeli bad. I wouldn't think he was lebanonymous, more like syrianknown. Shoulda stayed on the sunni side of the road

Gavino: Nobody thinks Israel did this to keep Syria in its place? Bwuahaha.

It's (remotely) possible that Syria didn't have a hand in this, but if that's the case my money would be on someone from the Cedar Revolution and not Israel (although Israel would approve).

Wild Bluebonnet: Take a look at czarangelus' profile. It screams "I don't have any real life experiences! - I haven't begun to live yet! But until then, I'll continue to talk out of my arse!".

Youth, ignorance, arrogance, and a strong sense of self-importance can be so irritating. But, like I said, he's pretty smart, so I expect he'll get wiser with time. I used to think some pretty stupid ass shiat when I was younger, and thankfully, I learned that swallowing my pride and opening my mind was far better than spouting ignorance in the face of reality. I'm sure he'll learn the same lesson.

But until then, I'll just point and laugh at czarangelus.

Czarangelus is back to putting "C" "r" "a" "z" "e" back in his name.

There are piles of Muslim extremist nuts, and piles more Muslims willing to at least covertly support them. Most of the world just doesn't care, because it's more interested in seeing Israel, the US, and Christianity / Judaism in general get exterminated. Naive fools, who do they think is going to be next if we all get slayed? Terrorists know how to do only one thing - kill civilians - and they're just going to switch targets if they ever run out of them over here. There will always be non-Muslims (or other factions of Muslims) to kill.

bin_smokin Where is Tatsuma?

You don't need Tatsuma to cry BS on czarangelus's stuff. He believes that the entire mid-east conflict is a product of a military industrial corporate conspiracy to profit from the continued sales of arms to the area. Israeli and US corporate heads are to blame. This of course simplifies the entire conflict to a few bad people driving the entire issue, ignoring the millions of Israelis who simply want to live in peace and security, the millions of Palestinians who want the same thing, the conflict between Hamas and Fatah for the leadership of the Palestinians, the tens of thousands of militants who believe strongly in the liberation of Palestine for either a Palestinian or Islamic state, the thousands of Jews that see the West Bank as theirs by holy writ, the aspirations of the Iranian government in the area, the view by the Syrian government that Syria has a special interest in Lebanon, the hundreds of thousands of Christian Lebanese and Muslim Lebanese that have suffered at each other's hands, the commercial interests of european states, the historical resentment by arabs of western colonialism, the growing conflict between states over the limited water supplies in the area...

No, clearly this is all driven by a few evil corporate heads to line their own pockets. It's a simple world despite the fact that it's comprised of 6 billion individuals, each capable for thinking and feeling for him- or herself. Can't you all see that?

j0ndas

Your medications, take them please.

All I know, is that when engaging in World Politics, you take a bite of a turd sandwich.

No matter which side you take you're still eating shiat.

I'm sure he'll learn the same lesson

...or become the greatest jew-hater that ever hated jews, or end up under the heavy weight of an Israeli owned catepillar bulldozer...

How he so immediately tied this back to 'da joos' is so insanely idiotic its touching. That someone could have so much hate in their precious little effete heart, its a triumph of the human condition fit for an al jazeera movie of the week.

While I don't agree completely with Czarangelus, I think it's important to recognize that he does have one good point: Israel, the US, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, and everyone else involved in the middle east is conducting a war the way they know best. That's not an excuse for what happens, but it is a reason (assuming the readers of this comment know the difference).

What we don't like to see, however, is that we always have a choice to change the way we are fighting. Until we realize that this is a war of information first and a war of arms second, then people are going to continue dying.


/Boobies ever on Fark
//Don't really care how you feel about it.

HumbleGenius - This could lead to violence in the Middle East.

JLobes: Your insight is ground-shattering.

Not nearly as impressive as your sarcasm-detecting abilities.

But seriously, I don't get this story. All the lesbians I've met have been against violence.

rofl at the filter changing "/ Boobies ever on Fark" to "boobies ever"

According to "Have Your Say" on the BBC this is, as usual the fault of the Jews and the US.

Galloping Galoshes

That kid makes a lot of us look like Ninjews.

read_more_please

Hehe, you said boobies.

I wanna see more jews eating babies.

Only a person who has identified himself with cause and placed it beyond good or evil; who thinks about nothing other than advancing this cause's interests; who has the ability to conjure up a grossly distorted image of how things are because he does not live in relative region of the cause; who is completely indifferent to reality and has a remarkable capacity to ignore countervailing evidence that's perceived as a slight to his cause would ever believe that anyone but Syria is responsible for this assassination.

czarangelus

You are an intelligent individual, moreso than most everyone who posts here. It'd be a terrible shame if this habit of mind which currently infects your thinking were to corrupt you completely. Seek help:

http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/english/e_nat

read_more_please: conducting a war the way they know best.

That's not his point at all. These people are being egged on, misled, and manipulated in order to sell more guns to them. According to him, the Israelis initiate all the attacks in order to get a response, and then retaliate for the response, which continues the cycle of violence, and increases arms sales. That's what it boils down to for him. He's a philosophy student and sees the world through a Marxist/socialist lens. The source of evil for him is corporate greed.

Butterfinger: That kid makes a lot of us look like Ninjews.

We are very dangerous. Do not anger us or we will destroy you with all the dark hidden power of our worldwide conspiracy. Thank you.

Truly tragic...but kudos to Submitter "KILLER HEADLINE!"

DrGunsforHands

Also, back in the early 20th century, it was known as the Paris of the Middle East. It was a very nice place.

It wasn't run by muslims then. If you aren't offended by lots of swearing in a foreign language ask any lebanese american their views on that.

farking spawn campers

There really is no point in debating with czarangelus. He can't even keep his own BS straight. Yesterday he was lecturing me about how there are no rules in war (after I pointed out that Hamas and Hezbollah regularly violate them). Today, we see him decrying Israeli use of clusterbombs and minefields in Lebanon. Remember kids, if the baby eating Jews do it, it's bad, but if the happy friendly terrorists do it, it's good (or if its bad, it's because the evil Jews and corporations made them do it).

Its all the fault of bush...


wait for it...

If women just gave up the bush more, guys would not be so pissed off all the time. things are going to blow one way or another. ladies, due your duty to world peace.

I just wanna know where czarangelus gets those awesome comics.

doowlexerd

He said in this thread he does a GIS. Meaning he has no real credibility and just spouts of shiat from hate sites.

He is nothing more than a bigot.

doowlexerd: I just wanna know where czarangelus gets those awesome comics.

Does Al Jazeera have funny pages?

BeowulfSmith
happy friendly terrorist



/snort, hahahaha:)

Hezb. and Nassrallah(may he rot in hell) are behind this. Gemayel was in the cabinet. One more assassination or resignation and the gov. of Lebanon falls. Probably done without Syrian approval. They have a big enough problem squelching the Hariri investigation. Nasrallah said he would bring down the Lebanese government one way or another. This is him making his move.

We are very dangerous. Do not anger us or we will destroy you with all the dark hidden power of our worldwide conspiracy. Thank you.

Not to be ignorant or anything, but can't we simply distract you with delicious pastries made from the blood of arab children, or bars of gold?

/I keed

Wild Bluebonnet:

[The writer's husband] also supports Israel and wants Hezbollah out of the country of his birth. He considers them terrorists, as do all Lebanese Christians [emphasis supplied].

O, RLY? From the Pew Research Center:

Despite widespread sectarian violence during their country's 1975-1990 civil war, today Lebanese Muslims and Christians generally have positive attitudes toward one another. Fully 86% of Muslims have a favorable opinion of Christians, by far the highest rating of Christians by any Muslim public. At the same time, 82% of Christians have a positive view of Muslims.

Attitudes toward Jews, however, are quite another matter. Even before the current conflict, negative sentiments about Jews and Israel were widespread in Lebanon, and they were not confined to the Muslim community. Indeed, no one in our Lebanese sample, Muslim, Christian, Druze, or otherwise, said they had a favorable view of Jews. Of course, negative attitudes towards Jews are not uncommon in the region -- in neighboring Jordan, zero respondents had a favorable view of Jews, and Morocco and Pakistan also posted favorable ratings for Jews in the single digits.

Despite the Lebanese Christians' antipathy toward Israel, however, it should be noted that a bare majority of Lebanese Christians - nowhere near "all," however, as Wild Bluebonnet would have it - are troubled by Hezbollah:

Another issue on which Muslims and Christians disagree is the threat posed to their country by Islamic extremism. Despite the dominant position of Iranian-backed Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, in last year's survey only 4% of Lebanese Muslims considered Islamic extremism a very or fairly great threat to the country, the lowest percentage of the six Muslim publics. Meanwhile, Lebanon's Christian minority sees this issue quite differently: 53% say Islamic extremism poses a very or fairly great threat.

One more interesting point - even though the fairly secular Lebanese Muslim community has the very highest level of support among the Islamic nations in which thise survey was conducted for suicide bombers in general, only 4% have a favorable opinion of Osama bin Laden. Curious, no?

More schooling for those of you who would like to make this a Muslim vs. Christian thing:

Hezbollah's strongest ally in its push to topple the government is ... Christian. It's the Free Patriotic Movement headed by Maronite politician Michel Aoun, a man who's so obsessed with being President that he will ally with the people who work for his old enemy: Syria.

And the Free Patriotic Movement is supported by - by some estimates - up to 70 percent of Lebanon's Christians. The rest fall mainly into Samir Geagea's camp, the Lebanese Forces, a party/militia that owes traces it its pedegree to the Hitler Youth of the 1930s. (No wonder the LGF ogres like it.)

This current political fight here has very little to do with Christian vs. Muslims. Instead, it's a fight between a pro-Syrian bloc (Hezbollah, Amal, FPM and a few smaller parties) and an anti-Syrian bloc (Future Movement, Lebanese Forces and Progressive Socialist Party). And this split in the Lebanese political society mirrors the greater struggle for the Middle East: the contest for influence between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

(Link.)

This sh*t is going to go on over there til the end of time ... or, until we simply get right out of the way and let them decide it amongst themselves.

Then, we work with whoever's left.

pretty sad some people blame Islam for 9/11 ... great evidence of the complete superficiality of their 'knowledge' of world affairs. if only things were that simple...
some people just like to join in a crowd and feel like they can yell louder if they repeat what the crowd is screaming.

Something tells me czarangelus doesn't get laid much (if at all).

Also, it seems logic and reasoned thought aren't part of the Philosophy syllabus at Stetson.

what a total clown. If he believed a word of the bullshiat he spews, he'd already be strapping on a bomb vest to his little brother or sister and sending them off to SteinMart.

Posuer

czarangelus

We've got our very own terrorism supporter here on fark, how very quaint.

I doubt he's really ready to go out and blow himself to farking bits so he can kill old jewish women and school kids like a real terrorist, he's probably just a trust fund kid in school who poses (alpha jihadi delta house?)this way hoping to bone some muslim chicks.

czarangelus reaps the benefits of his nations democratic institutions while supporting anti-democratic armed militias in other people's nations.

*clap clap*

I admit, I get really pissed off watching him support a group that is aiming at starting a civil war in Lebanon from his privileged position in the United States, but then i remember he's just an uninformed and inexperienced philosophy student, and I try to cut him some slack.

But still. For somebody who has never known real violence to support militias that use it in other nations makes my blood boil.

He's lucky, he's never known civil war, and probably never will. I wish I could say the same about the Lebanese people....