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(Ocala.com)   Trial hinges on naked photos of teen dancer. In other news, some juries are better to serve on than others   (ocala.com) divider line 123
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2006-11-20 06:28:06 AM  
I really don't know what to say... except John Walsh is a farking asshole.
 
2006-11-20 07:27:57 AM  
". . . It wasn't intended for that type of thing. It was just hanging out."

I bet it was.
 
2006-11-20 08:27:10 AM  
TTIWWOP........really. pretty please? pix???? someone????
 
2006-11-20 10:20:26 AM  
The alleged victim and two other witnesses, Sarah Rittscher Hall and John Morales, testified they met Denhart and three other people at Crispers that night for dinner. Denhart, the alleged victim, Hall and Morales then went to Denhart's home, where they all had drinks.

Jurors saw nude pictures of the alleged victim, including one of her posing in a leather swing that hung over Denhart's bed. But the woman said she never intended to sexually arouse Denhart or anyone else.

"It was very simple. Me and this other girl were there, and we were drinking and goofing off," she said. "It wasn't like I was posing. It wasn't like some photo shoot or anything like that . . . It wasn't intended for that type of thing. It was just hanging out."

...

The alleged victim testified she had a fake identification card at the time, and that she had been an exotic dancer at the former Miss Ellie's club.



So this clearly world-weary young girl uses fake ID to get a job as a stripper, then goes off and parties with older men as we might expect strippers to do (at least in our imaginations).

What I don't get from TFA is if the dirty old man had any idea that one of his guests was a few months shy of legal. If he didn't know, and assumed she 21 like the other dancer, then who exactly was exploiting whom?
 
2006-11-20 11:21:30 AM  
Yes! Another fresh boobies thread!
 
2006-11-20 11:24:02 AM  
If ever there had a been a thread which could be made more useless by the absense of pics, it is this one.
 
2006-11-20 11:26:11 AM  
Article said the guy had a leather swing hanging over his bed. That's a bad sign by itself- add in a naked teenager and the FBI might wanna have a few words the fellow.
 
2006-11-20 11:26:13 AM  
The fact that this case even went to trial absolutely sickens me. There is no "victim" so I don't even know why they would use the word

The prosecutor shold be jailed; the nosy woman who went to her lawyer should get nothing; the man should get a medal; we should get the pictures.
 
2006-11-20 11:28:21 AM  
bah, couldn't find what I was looking for, this will have to do

img64.imageshack.us

/myspace ftw
 
2006-11-20 11:28:26 AM  
not the picture I was hoping for but it will do.
 
2006-11-20 11:29:46 AM  
Jurors saw nude pictures of the alleged victim, including one of her posing in a leather swing that hung over Denhart's bed.

Does this mean that the jury is now guilty of viewing kiddie pron?
 
2006-11-20 11:30:06 AM  
Why is it that if a 17 year old kills someone they can be tried as an adult but if a 17 year old wants to take her clothes off without coercion then she's a child and must be protected?
 
2006-11-20 11:30:19 AM  
The poor dear, she says she had no intention of sexually arousing anyone. Nay, it was the furthest thing from her mind, it must have been quite a shock to her. I do hope she goes into therapy to deal with this horrible, newfound power she has.
 
2006-11-20 11:30:33 AM  
Where's The Smoking Gun when you need it?
 
2006-11-20 11:30:34 AM  
What tonesskin said.
 
2006-11-20 11:31:45 AM  
Read my lips, if the fist dont fit, you must acquit.

img489.imageshack.us
 
2006-11-20 11:32:09 AM  
Great ... they have this trial, and I get pegged for some silly meth case.
 
2006-11-20 11:33:12 AM  
So let me get this straight.

The "alleged victim," who actually makes no complaint, had a fake ID and worked as a stripper. Another woman convinced her to do these things, but it's the guy's fault?
 
2006-11-20 11:33:17 AM  
I can see this thread is moving in the right direction.

/to jail that is.
//"whats going on?"
///"I donno, something about statues."
 
2006-11-20 11:33:44 AM  
OCALA - It started with dinner at Crispers. It ended with a 52-year-old man taking pictures and touching the breast of a naked 17-year-old exotic dancer with a fake I.D.

He touched her breast with a fake I.D.? That's not very sexy.
 
2006-11-20 11:34:48 AM  
not guilty. She's the one lying to everyone. Although he may be a dirty old man, this guy doesn't deserve to be labelled a child molestor.
 
2006-11-20 11:34:51 AM  
What a waste of tax money!

/still worthless without pic of said dancer on the sex swingy thing.
 
2006-11-20 11:35:06 AM  
"Kids" with fake IDs (to make themselves 'older') should be tried as adults.

Poor lil' 17-year-old needs to be outed and tried for filing a
false report....and given some jail time.
 
2006-11-20 11:36:10 AM  
BizarroHulk
Article said the guy had a leather swing hanging over his bed. That's a bad sign by itself

Wha...? It just means funtime in my reality!
 
2006-11-20 11:36:13 AM  
He touched her breast with a fake I.D.? That's not very sexy.

At least he didn't scan his credit card in her labia.
 
2006-11-20 11:36:41 AM  
Minors should be imprisoned for dancing naked underage. It should be a felony b/c it exposes everyone around them to child pornography. It's not like her clothes accidentally fell off or there was a nipple-slip, she purposely got naked and posed for pictures. As a minor lying about her age.

She lied, she exposed them all to child pornography. That's a felony. The law should cut both ways here.
 
2006-11-20 11:37:10 AM  
which is why i never take pictures of anyone unless they look old enough to be my grandmother. that's just how i roll.
 
2006-11-20 11:37:21 AM  
Kiler

Why is it that if a 17 year old kills someone they can be tried as an adult but if a 17 year old wants to take her clothes off without coercion then she's a child and must be protected?

Interesting point. I suppose it's because when someone kills another it can be on their own. When a minor is involved in this (naked,sex,etc.) type of case, there is always another person involved. So coersion is more likely?

I don't know, not explaining. just thought you had an interesting point there.
 
2006-11-20 11:37:31 AM  
I'm shocked. Shocked, I say. A drunk 17 year old stripper in a leather swing! And the 52 year old guy gets busted! He should get a medal!

Actually, there were more names in this story than in War and Peace. Made my head hurt.
 
2006-11-20 11:37:42 AM  
Hmmm... 17 year old used fake ID to be a stripper, which would be legal in a few months anyways, and the male customer gets in trouble. Stupid, stupid trial. She is not a victim, she's just a little skank. Get over it. There are real victims out there they could defend.

If she were younger, like 14, I could see this trial could have merit, were it charging her employer and not her customer.
 
2006-11-20 11:37:45 AM  
Detry

you're on a roll with the borderline-disturbing boobies pics today.

/keep 'em coming, good sir
//that's what SHE said, anyway.
///merry Christmas.
 
2006-11-20 11:40:38 AM  
where are teh statues?
 
2006-11-20 11:40:55 AM  
vanity

She lied, she exposed them all to child pornography. That's a felony. The law should cut both ways here.

I've been reading fark for a couple years now, and for the first time ever I can sort of agree with vanity!

Seriously though, she should not be looked at as 'victim' here. She should be getting penalized for using a fake id to strip.
 
2006-11-20 11:41:06 AM  
Damn 17 year old hussy! She needs to be spanked!
 
2006-11-20 11:42:20 AM  
jook: "Kids" with fake IDs (to make themselves 'older') should be tried as adults.

Poor lil' 17-year-old needs to be outed and tried for filing a
false report....and given some jail time.


RTFA..

The 17 year old didn't file a false report. Didn't even turn the guy in.

The girl she was with ended up with the pics, took them to some dude's house, the dude was getting divorced, ex found the pics, had a PI check them out, the PI identified the people in the pics, realized the girl was under age, turned the pics over to the police. They and the DA took over from there.
 
2006-11-20 11:42:40 AM  
jook: Poor lil' 17-year-old needs to be outed and tried for filing a
false report....and given some jail time.


RTFA - unless I missed it, she didn't file the complaint.

"Hall told jurors Denhart printed the pictures and gave them to her in a FedEx envelope.

Ocala police arrested Denhart in 2004, about a year after the incident, after Hall accidentally left the FedEx envelope at the home of Michael Lyles when she and a friend went to a barbecue there.

By the time Hall remembered where the pictures were, Lyles and his wife were divorcing. Ronda Lyles found the pictures, and thought her husband might have something to do with them. She took them to her lawyer, Mary K. Landt.

When Ronda Lyles later switched lawyers, she took the pictures to her new lawyer, Henry Ferro, who turned them over to his private investigator, former Ocala police officer David Cizmadia. Cizmadia determined the identities of the people pictured, and that the alleged victim was underage at the time and turned them over to police."
 
2006-11-20 11:43:06 AM  
The girl should be charged with production and dissemination of child pornography.

/Applying 'child porn' laws to 'victims' over 16 is pure stupidity.
 
2006-11-20 11:43:48 AM  
Men are born guilty.
 
2006-11-20 11:45:17 AM  
I hope this guy gets off.
 
2006-11-20 11:47:17 AM  
skazat.com
 
2006-11-20 11:47:54 AM  
Good to see my hometown representing on Fark once again.
 
2006-11-20 11:47:58 AM  
And no memtion of her parents, either.
Where's her daddy?
Where's her mother?
 
2006-11-20 11:48:10 AM  
I love my town.

Must track this chick down.
 
2006-11-20 11:48:35 AM  
'"I might have said that in those two things, and you might have asked me this, but I was thinking something else," she said at one point'

My brain hurts after reading that several times. Owie.

/S. Morgenstern - golf clap
 
2006-11-20 11:48:52 AM  
Help me out here.... how did the pictures end up at someone's BBQ a year later...? 'Cause that's where it all went wrong.


As for "not sexual".... pfffft. Please.
 
2006-11-20 11:49:15 AM  
I hope this guy gets off.

I think he already has.

/da-dum-bum-psh!
//thanks folks, I'll be here all week
 
2006-11-20 11:49:18 AM  
S. Morgenstern: I hope this guy gets off.

We need pics so we can get off too.
 
KIA
2006-11-20 11:49:25 AM  
Now, if what appears to be a state-issued ID says she's 18, then shouldn't the state be bound by that? Shouldn't the state be prosecuting her for using a fake ID?

What really gets me about this article is it looks like this all came up because a divorce lawyer is trying to get a felony conviction against the guy so the wife gets a better settlement package. Now the guy has to spend all his money defending himself from the charges, so when it comes time to divvy up what's left, there ain't gonna be very much. Well done, sirrah! You've really helped your client AND ensured full employment for attorneys and PI's.
 
2006-11-20 11:50:23 AM  
All I can say after RTFA is my head hurts. There are more characters than a Russian novel and all of them seem maximally clueless. Including the prosecution. What an absurd waste of money, brains, and time.
 
2006-11-20 11:50:25 AM  
Florida Trifecta...all before noon.



/I need to play the lottery today.
 
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