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(Fox News)   When you travel home this Thanksgiving, airports will be issuing you a 1-quart clear ziploc bag into which you may place toiletries contained in 3-ounce or smaller bottles, citizen   ( foxnews.com) divider line
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2006-11-19 10:24:44 AM  
Once again...
Your are an ass...
"my Airport"


Hey, bash the TSA guy if you want, but keep it realistic, okay? Is there an employee in the world who doesn't say "my store" or "my company"? It's a pretty common term even if it's not accurate.

Geez...
 
2006-11-19 10:25:30 AM  
tonguedepressor: Agreeing to work for these people and uphold their standards is condoning the practice. If you don't want to be the front-line man for a bunch of bastards, get a new job. Quit whining and take it like a man.
 
2006-11-19 10:28:38 AM  
NineInchNader: Hey, bash the TSA guy if you want, but keep it realistic, okay? Is there an employee in the world who doesn't say "my store" or "my company"? It's a pretty common term even if it's not accurate.

Well, Carpenters Local 94--- So i dont have to blow the man to feel safe in my career. Together we bargain, divided we beg...
 
2006-11-19 10:29:02 AM  
itsfullofstars,

You sir are very much missing the point.

Frequent fliers are not afraid of security policies and abide by them for very good reason.

It gets them to their gate faster and easier which is their prime objective.

now you sir can stfu for you know not of what you speak.
 
2006-11-19 10:31:29 AM  
how can there not be a pic of judge dredd?
me too lazy but c'mon guys!!

awesome submission line too, well done whoever that was!
 
2006-11-19 10:33:50 AM  
An experienced frequent flier will divest and get through my ckpt in under a minute.

The people who do not know policy slows the process down to about 5 minutes.
 
2006-11-19 10:42:06 AM  
Hey tonguedepressor, I'm a OneWorld emerald frequent flyer and I now actively avoid the US or flying through the US primarily because of the stupidity of the DHS/TSA, the rudeness and arrogance of its staff and the general hassle of flying on bad US airlines and travelling to/from the US.

I know of a number of other people who are doing the same.
The government department that you work for is actively working against the interests of your citizens.

So you're correct, frequent flyers are not afraid of the TSA's misguided security policies, abide by them when we have to, and actively avoid having to deal with them.

BTW, why is it faster to refuse to present identification thus getting transferred to the "extra security check" line? Much faster than being a sheep and following the rest of the herd...

Oh, and our prime objective is to travel not to "get to our gate"...
 
2006-11-19 10:44:50 AM  
Actually, all this does is give the airports an excuse for selling "specially cleared" and packaged of personal products on the other side of security.

No doubt at an incredibly high makup. A "approved" tube of toothpaste would make a 49 cent tube now cost $5.00!

Legalized gouging, all in the name of protecting us from those evil "brown people" who hate our freedoms.

Bullshiat. Every bit of it.
 
2006-11-19 10:45:42 AM  
Mugato: Do these farking nimrods actually think this is helping in any way? 9/11 happened because of BOX CUTTERS. No one had the liquid binary explosive from Die Hard 3. They had box cutters. And they could do it again. So relax.

Water gel explosive is commercially available. Google it. There's these people called scientists, and they do this thing called science which determined the amount of that could be used as a significant bomb.
 
2006-11-19 10:45:44 AM  
2006-11-19 10:33:50 AM tonguedepressor

An experienced frequent flier A Compliant sheep will divest and get through my ckpt in under a minute.

The people who do not know policy slows The people who actually think and care about their freedom slow the process down to about 5 minutes.

/Fixed that for you.
//If you can't see the difference, you are too stupid for your job.
///Again, please tell me you're trolling
 
2006-11-19 10:45:55 AM  
Just so long as they're not Commie mutant traitors.

/loves Friend Computer
 
2006-11-19 10:47:33 AM  
LARD BARON
Gin and Tonic protects against malaria, the quinine in the tonic does it, to be precise. There, new solution, and you'll be happier for it.
 
2006-11-19 10:50:13 AM  
This travel safety advice brought to you by S.C. Johnson.
Gee, I wonder who owns a lot of that stock????
 
2006-11-19 10:52:52 AM  
That's What You Think,

It's faster in the "selectee lane" simply due to the lesser amt of designated travelers in this normally dedicated lane.

The downside is, that you have go through the puffer or get patted down and then get all your carry-on pawed through.

I'm sorry if you've had problems with TSA security in the past but I stand by my last statement and say that I have had nearly nothing but good interactions with people. I approach it simply by treating people the way I'd want myself and my family treated.

As for prime objective, I think we can agree that the one goes with the other.
 
2006-11-19 10:53:11 AM  
can someone please explain to me how placing potentially explosive binary liquids in a ziplock makes them less explosive? am I missing something here, because this seems unbelievably ineffective, wasteful, and downright idiotic.
 
2006-11-19 10:56:32 AM  
hedgefrog:

"///Again, please tell me you're trolling"

ok, ok you win, here...

sigh..."you're trolling"

there, happy now pissant?
 
2006-11-19 11:02:14 AM  
tonguedepressor: As for prime objective, I think we can agree that the one goes with the other.

No we can't agree. I want to travel. I do not want to stand in a line and get harassed (and threatened at least once so far) by some high school flunkie who is supposedly keeping us safe from the evildoers.
 
2006-11-19 11:02:37 AM  
tonguedepressor

You can travel domestically with an unlimited amt of cash.


Wrong.

"Eighth Circuit Appeals Court ruling says police may seize cash from motorists even in the absence of any evidence that a crime has been committed."
 
2006-11-19 11:02:59 AM  
(Not calling you a flunkie, it just seems like the majority of their staff are not the brightest folks around)
 
2006-11-19 11:05:56 AM  
stiletto_the_wise

Wow. I had never heard of that. They took their life savings because a dog barked at it.

It is time we create an all new paradigm. Remember kids, regime change begins at home!
 
2006-11-19 11:07:02 AM  
tonguedepressor
ok, ok you win, here...

sigh..."you're trolling"

there, happy now pissant?

With people as stupid as you appear to be running security checkpoints, no not happy at all.
 
2006-11-19 11:10:00 AM  
hey Stiletto, we're currently talking about AIR travel not cars and on domestic flights that originate and end w/in the confines of the US borders, their are no limits to amt of cash you can carry.
 
2006-11-19 11:11:59 AM  
but I'll abide by the policy until they change it.

That's the problem.

I will NEVER fly unless I am leaving the country permanently.
 
2006-11-19 11:16:26 AM  
Mugato, speaking as someone who's never been comfortable on a flight, ever, I'm all for the cryosleep. No matter how many pills I take I can't seem to achieve that effect during a flight.
 
2006-11-19 11:23:13 AM  
You can also carry your cell phone and your broken camera as these do not pose any security threat.

I could easily use my "broken" camera as a shell.

In another instance, I carried on a used automobile muffler in a duffel bag. The security person said they had to get their supervisor and didn't return for 5 minutes. I got sick of waiting, walked away, and boarded the plane.
 
2006-11-19 11:30:53 AM  
At this point, none of this crap really has anything to do with terrists, and they're just doing it because they know they can get away with it. It's not going to stop until people wise up and start boycotting air travel.
 
2006-11-19 11:32:07 AM  
Yes, you should check all your baggage to avoid all these rules, but do not store your laptop in your baggage. Carry it in its own bag or those baggage monkeys will break it.

If you don't know how to use those self check in kiosks, then get the fark out of the way and watch others do it. Keep your boarding pass and photo id handy at all times; don't bury it your old ladies' purse.
 
2006-11-19 11:32:20 AM  
ISeeYourDisease

"I could easily use my "broken" camera as a shell.

In another instance, I carried on a used automobile muffler in a duffel bag. The security person said they had to get their supervisor and didn't return for 5 minutes. I got sick of waiting, walked away, and boarded the plane."



Dude, you are very strange.
 
2006-11-19 11:35:05 AM  
You don't professionalize unless you federalize. Can't wait to have "professional" health care!
 
2006-11-19 11:37:58 AM  
When they stop taking my babies' car seats and give me a proper apology for endangering my kids' lives last time, then and only then will I fly again. Or, more realistically, when my kids have outgrown car seats--assuming nothing else retarded has cropped up in the interim. I've already warned my family that I will NEVER fly again if the flight industry institutes cavity searches and I've been given a "get out of reunions free" pass if that happens.

It's a shame: I travelled a lot as a kid--coast to coast in Canada, down into the States, and over to Europe--and it was a really positive experience I'd like to give my kids (cash permitting). However, if it comes at a price of humiliation and risk to life and limb, it just ain't worth it.

/yes, I called security a threat to life and limb
//when you take away safety equipment, you're a threat
///suck my menstrual coochie, CSA
 
2006-11-19 11:38:30 AM  
If the liquids that are being confiscated are possibly hazardous, why are they being thrown away? Aren't they potential hazmats? Shouldn't some kind of special disposal team come and take them and contain them? They treat abandoned baggage like bombs, shouldn't the confiscated liquids be treated similarly?
Or, is the theory that hair gel and Evian and yogurt become explosive when combined in certain quantities? So, as long as the items remain in their original packaging, it's OK?
Or, is this all a load of crap to make us afraid?
 
2006-11-19 11:39:13 AM  
ec2.images-amazon.com
6 oz, damn.

ec1.images-amazon.com
1.5 oz, Awesome!
 
2006-11-19 11:43:50 AM  
"
I'm surprised no one's used ceramic knives yet."

Or fiberglass, or glass. The reason noone does it is that IT WOULDNT FUKING WORK. You pull a knife, get up to the front of the plane and start yelling, you get to say " THis is a hijacking, open the d...." and grandma, little suzie, and the drunk guy in first class will be stomping you to death, because they know its you or them. Its like trying to rob a gun store with your finger in your jacket pocket, it just wont work.
 
2006-11-19 11:44:54 AM  
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

/not obscure
 
2006-11-19 11:51:43 AM  
tonguedepressor

hey Stiletto, we're currently talking about AIR travel not cars and on domestic flights that originate and end w/in the confines of the US borders, their are no limits to amt of cash you can carry.


Maybe not prohibitted by TSA regs, but any cop can sieze your cash it is deemed 'too much' as the only people that carry cash are drug dealers. There was a case in Memphis I think where a street musician had his life savings seized. He did not trust banks, so he kept his roll of 13K or so with him. The cops nabbed him for loitering or some other BS and took and kept his money. The only thing wrong with the money was that he simply had too much of it, and I guess that the cops needed a new DARE vehicle or something.

So yeah, go on not questioning the stupidity of the rules and regulations that you willing enforce. One day you may even get oven duty for being such a true patriot. I mean, if they did not want to be imprisoned, they should have stopped being Muslim or whatever the flavor of the day is.
 
2006-11-19 11:52:13 AM  
Oh this is just farking stupid. DRIVE during the major holidays, folks. Flying during this time of year is for masochistic asshats. If you live too far to drive, then STAY THE fark HOME. Try doing something unique on the holiday for a change. Just save some damn money, because airlines + TSA = giant dildos up the proverbial ass.
 
2006-11-19 11:54:55 AM  
But then were am I going to keep my weed?
 
2006-11-19 12:03:48 PM  
One day I was watching Glenn Beck (I hate his guts, but the interviewee was kinda cool) talked about a story where in an airport after waiting in line 3 hours was told he could bring all his toiletries and whatnot... but ONLY if he had a plastic bag to put them in.

So farking stupid. In no way, IN NO WAY does banning toiletries make us safer. Its just makes life harder. Scare away the terrorists because just getting through security is hell?
 
2006-11-19 12:08:01 PM  
This is pretty farking stupid. Somewhere a bunch of unwashed arseholes are laughing there balls off and thinking of someway to make everyone in the West have to strip at the airport and fly in their undies. Although I would fly more then.
 
2006-11-19 12:08:59 PM  
It's easy to carry a liquid/gel container that's larger than 3.4 with you on the plane. I carry a giant bottle of contact solution and a full-size container of toothpaste with me by throwing it in my cargo pants pockets. They're not made of metal, so they don't set off the detector, and they're not x-rayed, so the TSA dickweed who's looking at the x-ray monitor can't steal it.
 
2006-11-19 12:09:42 PM  
Flew yesterday from Vegas to Boston and got shaken down for a brand new tube of toothpaste (still with the tamper-proof seal intact) because it was over 3oz.

/I felt so much safer on the plane.
 
2006-11-19 12:18:22 PM  
PeaSouper "It's easy to carry a liquid/gel container that's larger than 3.4 with you on the plane. I carry a giant bottle of contact solution and a full-size container of toothpaste with me by throwing it in my cargo pants pockets."

yeah, I've stated as much 2x already in this thread.

try to keep up.
 
2006-11-19 12:20:35 PM  
people people, there is a simple and obvious solution to this problem that you['re all missing, just buy a first class ticket like normal folk. you'll end up in the VIP lounge and will be fast tracked through all security points, so stop being cheap whiny kids and just go first class.


/duh
 
2006-11-19 12:21:45 PM  
I was flying out of Philly last Sunday, and I had my little containers of shaving cream, toothpaste, etc. in my 1 quart ziploc bag. Going through security, the TSA dude grabbed my bag, held it up, and bellowed, "like this, people, this is how you're supposed to carry it!"

I felt like a total teacher's pet.
 
2006-11-19 12:26:51 PM  
I'm glad I don't have to fly anywhere. The safety rules seem to get stupider & stupider everytime I see them and don't provide any real security.
 
2006-11-19 12:40:14 PM  
Idiots.

Not the Home Security asshats, the people. The people of this country are so farking stupid, I wish there was a better place.

Rioting over PS3 and fooootball games, but you allow these pointless searches and siezures.

Are you really this HOPELESS?!
 
2006-11-19 12:51:59 PM  
Do you people need to wash your hair and brush your teeth in the airplane lavatory or something? Or have a bad history of getting your checked bags lost?

Not that I agree with TSA outlawing a state of matter, but it's really not that hard to deal with. I kind of find the extra space in the overhead bins nice, not having to deal with people crushing my small bag of items too delicate to check with their oversized "carry on" bags.

I just need water to survive. So, I bring empty bottles of water with me and fill them up at the water fountain on the other side. I do feel bad for people with liquid medications. I have liquid prescriptions but I still check them because I don't need them on the plane.

Also curious what would happen if one used a 1.1 quart bag, or a 0.9 quart bag, what's the tolerance on that number anyway? How clear is clear (what if it's tinted blue)? What if it's a snap-and-lock but not a "zip" lock? Isn't the name "zip" lock trademarked and therefore only one brand is acceptable?
 
2006-11-19 12:56:11 PM  
femtoamy, quit bringing logic into this! -1 point for you.
 
2006-11-19 12:58:51 PM  
Do you people need to wash your hair and brush your teeth in the airplane lavatory or something? Or have a bad history of getting your checked bags lost?

Neither. But, I fly probably an average of twice a week. Most airports I've been to in the US, I generally have to wait an average of about 15 minutes longer to get my bag from the baggage carousel than if I walked straight from the gate to the rental car shuttle or the taxi stand. Checking a bag every time I fly would cost me 26 hours a year.
 
2006-11-19 01:02:20 PM  
I don't know if this helps or not, but there was a case in the Philippines where an airliner almost crashed because a bomber did have a bomb, using the container for contact lens solution...
 
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