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(Fox News)   Judge: calling someone a terrorist is unconstitutional   (foxnews.com) divider line 102
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2002-07-19 11:52:58 AM  
I really hate transcripts:

O'REILLY: "Yes, I..."
GUEST: "Before we get started..."
O'REILLY: "under the assumption tha..."
GUEST: "well certainly, yes."
O'REILLY: "no," (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
GUEST: "yes, maybe if..."
O'REILLY: "dinner tonite..." (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
GUEST: "then you can kiss my" (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
O'REILLY: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
GUEST: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
O'REILLY: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
GUEST: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
ENTIRE PROGRAM: (UNINTELLIGENT) (POINTLESS)
 
2002-07-19 12:35:10 PM  
The... uh... "they" have already won.
 
2002-07-19 12:35:40 PM  
You might as well read Meshman's transcript. You'll get as much out of it.
 
2002-07-19 12:36:28 PM  
Looks like we need a new "Politically Correct" term for people who crash airplanes into buildings.

Or we could just hit the judge with a rolled up copy of the constitution. "Bad Judge! Baaaaad Judge!"
 
2002-07-19 12:37:22 PM  
When I watch or listen to shows like that, I expect to hear more from the guest than from the host. Otherwise, why even have guests?
 
2002-07-19 12:38:17 PM  
U.S. Judge Robert Tagasugi is a terrorist. He can respond here on Fark if he wants to dispute it.
 
2002-07-19 12:38:29 PM  
"You know, it seems like very day we're reporting on another ruling from a federal judge based in California, the Pledge of Allegiance, of course, came out of there. Now this Los Angeles judge says that unless Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda, get their day in court here, that the federal government can't designate them as terrorist groups. I just think this is another insane ruling, is it not?"

Ladies and gentleman, the most popular talking head currently in rotation: Mr. Bill O'Reilly. Pure genius, if ever I did see it.
 
2002-07-19 12:38:32 PM  
ha,ha

your a terrorist (drunken sarcasm)
 
2002-07-19 12:38:36 PM  
What if they say "I'm rubber and you're glue..."
 
2002-07-19 12:38:55 PM  
O'Reilly is involved. Ahh, now it makes sense.
 
2002-07-19 12:39:13 PM  
Oops. Forgot my sarcasm tags.
 
2002-07-19 12:41:41 PM  
"Terrorists" are unconstitutional.
 
2002-07-19 12:41:43 PM  
Well, I honestly think the basic point to this ruling is appropriate: We can't just call anyone a terrorist without providing evidence.

Evidence is all that's really needed, some evidence and a quick (but legal) trial. If the State Department has such good reason to believe this, why not shanghai a judge and the director of whatever organization they're calling a terrorist, and spend a couple hours in a courtroom laying it out and debating? That's all it'll take, and that'll make it legitimate.
 
2002-07-19 12:41:44 PM  
Follow up- Judge disappears. Ashcroft's business card found in chambers. Patriot act alive and well.

Whatever happened to that guy who allegedly said he was thinking about looking for someone who might know how to find instructions or help in maybe locating some materials that could possibly be used in the making of an potential dirty bomb that could be planted and maybe, in the future,detonated somewhere in the US?

Did we execute him yet?
 
2002-07-19 12:42:06 PM  
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

What the hell should we call them? "Peace-deficient"?
 
2002-07-19 12:42:28 PM  
oh yes, 'super-due proces'

if the people get to step foot into a court room before being thrown into 'protective custody', since they can't be jailed without committing a crime, than that is more due process than they deserve
 
2002-07-19 12:42:36 PM  
This deserves a 'stupid' tag.
 
2002-07-19 12:45:22 PM  
Both the poster and the host missed the point. Hundreds or even thousands of groups, many of them legitimate, have been branded as terrorist organizations. We're not talking about Hamas here, we're talking about churches sending money to families back home. Sure some of them are crooked, but most of them are not. By being branded a terrorist organization, they are essentially crippled in their ability to function and raise legitimate money. Yet they are given no opportunity to prove or even present evidence to prove that they are not terrorist organizations. They have no recourse to be removed from this list. This goes against the essential rights that our country was founded on.
 
2002-07-19 12:45:28 PM  
Greenhornet: Speaking of that Pledge issue, did you hear the mother who teached bible school with the help of her "emotionally injured" daughter speak on Fox news about how her daughter wants to keep saying the pledge with "God" in it, and that the father doesn't even have custody of the girl? Now the mother has an attorney filing briefs. He he he.

Sorry, back to the topic at hand......
 
2002-07-19 12:46:14 PM  
"You know, it seems like very day we're reporting on another ruling from a federal judge based in California, the Pledge of Allegiance, of course, came out of there."
Well, it just shows that California is the last remaining sane place in the USA

(take protection behind sandbags)
 
2002-07-19 12:46:17 PM  
transcripts from the coffee room at fox news:

o'reilly: hey you, do you prefer jelly donuts or glazed?
unidentified staffer: i prefer gla...
or'reilly: you're a tool! jelly are clearly better!
staffer: but in my opin...
o'reilly: now you're gonna go on some liberal rant about how donuts are a matter of choice, bla, bla, bla!
staffer: but bi...
o'reilly: you're no better than the al quada. what you're really trying to say is that you're better than bill o'reilly. NOBODY IS BETTER THAN ME!!!!! get it loser!?
staffer: bill you're a fu...[unintelligible]
 
2002-07-19 12:47:22 PM  
TellarHK:

The state department has freedom of speech just like the rest of us. If the members of the state department call someone a terrorist and you don't like it, vote them out.

However, if they are officially designating a group a terrorist group and thus causing them to be treated differently under law and such, then at least a hearing is certainly in orer.
 
2002-07-19 12:47:23 PM  
blah blah blah terrorist blah blah blah can't call them BLAH BLAH BLAH ashcroft BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Penis BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Pepsi Cola BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
 
2002-07-19 12:47:27 PM  
If you have a kid named Alan Kayda, is he a terrorist?
 
2002-07-19 12:47:30 PM  
LaughingBoy- Teached? Don't you mean 'taught'?
 
2002-07-19 12:47:37 PM  
"But now, U.S. Judge Robert Tagasugi has ruled that the designation "terrorist group" is unconstitutional without the group being able to reply."

Political correctness of the stupidest order.
 
2002-07-19 12:48:03 PM  
It's always refreshing to see a reasoned and balanced presentation that focuses on the issues like this, free of any bias or hysteria.

/sarcasm
 
2002-07-19 12:49:00 PM  
If calling someone a terrorist is unconstitutional, then the terrorists have already won.


I can't believe I just said that.
 
2002-07-19 12:49:05 PM  
I really wish these people would stop being such a bunch of pussies. This political correct / unconstitutional shiat is really freaking annoying. Who the hell cares? There was a time when terms like blacks, puerto ricans, asians, orientals, eskimos, jews, whites, etc., was just a way of describing people. Now you have to get out your translation manual to understand just what the hell the person is.

The court system has ruined the concept of justice. They're more interested in seing how closely they can stick to their made-up rules.
 
2002-07-19 12:49:47 PM  
Who comes to fark for a balanced presentation, anyway? Can I whine about my lack of posted articles?

It's just fun to watch the fringe meet online.
 
2002-07-19 12:50:14 PM  
Click here to order the complete transcript.


hehehe. Funniest thing I've read all day.
 
2002-07-19 12:51:49 PM  
Bisifiniti: I said she teached "Bible" school, not "I went to high school".

;-)
 
2002-07-19 12:53:25 PM  
Statusquo
Speech is one thing, but when the State Department declares someone a terrorist, they have assets siezed, and are effectively shut down from operation entirely. When they label someone or a group as a terrorist, it's effectively a death sentence for any rights they had.

And State Department officials aren't elected, they're appointed.
 
2002-07-19 12:53:27 PM  
That feeled great to say.
 
2002-07-19 12:54:41 PM  
laughingboy:

better go to night classes and get your learn on.
 
2002-07-19 12:55:59 PM  
Gotta love labels. If another human does or believes something that is not what you believe or do, then make sure you label them, so that others can see how jacked up they are. Or so you can kill them off. Easier to justify.


/obvious
 
2002-07-19 12:56:09 PM  
LaughingBoy- Ah. Apparently she didn't go to highschool either.

(to any other Christians out there, I'm just releasing tension about my days at the Christian school...)
 
2002-07-19 12:56:09 PM  
Attempting to be totally PC = Chasing your tail while the rest of the world is doing important shiat.
 
2002-07-19 12:56:47 PM  
07-19-02 12:38:29 PM Greenhornet

Ladies and gentleman, the most popular talking head currently in rotation: Mr. Bill O'Reilly.

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2002-07-19 12:57:35 PM  
TellarHK:
I know they're appointed, but they are very directly appointed by elected officials. And I'll concede your point on the terrorists then, I don't know anything about the laws regarding the state department and terrorists.
 
2002-07-19 12:58:21 PM  
K-Jack: Weez smart down here. heh heh heh.

I have an inveterate propensity of doing things like that by mistake. Pardon my error.
 
2002-07-19 01:00:44 PM  
"Gotta love labels. If another human does or believes something that is not what you believe or do, then make sure you label them, so that others can see how jacked up they are." - PhaetonGrim


[b]Maybe I could terrorize you and your family, but I'm not a 'terrorist', my beliefs just include making your life a living hell. Give me a break. [/b]
 
2002-07-19 01:02:10 PM  
07-19-02 12:53:25 PM TellarHK
Speech is one thing, but when the State Department declares someone a terrorist, they have assets siezed, and are effectively shut down from operation entirely. When they label someone or a group as a terrorist, it's effectively a death sentence for any rights they had.

And State Department officials aren't elected, they're appointed.



So the State Department took everything from these people without due process? Is the State Department a terrorist organization now? I'm so confused!
 
2002-07-19 01:02:19 PM  
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2002-07-19 01:03:19 PM  
My gosh, it took a whole 40 MINUTES before somebody called the judge a terrorist. What's wrong with Fark today?
 
2002-07-19 01:03:41 PM  
tags suck...I am tag-retarded today
 
2002-07-19 01:04:14 PM  
I guess civally challenged sounds better.

Its probably unconstitutional to call a judge and a$$hole too.
 
2002-07-19 01:04:32 PM  
word phaetongrim. i find it hilarious that any time any ruling that conservatives don't like comes down, it's labled "politically correct" in order to rile up the vox populi. this decision was not "politically correct," it was "legally correct."

i can't wait until i'm elected president because i'm just going to lable right to life, the cristian coalition, the riaa, and the entire staff of fox news terrorists. with due process for those fools gone, i could do whatever i wanted to them without any oversight. my first act would be putting o'reilly in indefinite custody and make him listen to npr all day while only giving him a vegan diet.
 
2002-07-19 01:04:38 PM  
GreenBlood: And where were you going with that? Whose side do you think I am on?
 
daz
2002-07-19 01:06:09 PM  
Well, I guess the [groups who may have committed acts of violence and fear against the United States] have already won.
 
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