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(LA Times)   Green Beret leaves final wish to family and friends for a $100K party in Las Vegas   ( latimes.com) divider line
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2006-11-17 07:23:38 PM  
De Opresso Liber

Helluva way to go out.

RIP, Sir.
 
2006-11-17 07:41:38 PM  
NewportBarGuy: Opresso

Oppresso... goddammit
 
2006-11-17 07:44:26 PM  
I love that. I love everything about that.

That's the way a person should be remembered.

I absolutely hate that the author used the term "freak-danced" in the article.
 
2006-11-17 07:57:36 PM  
Nice.
 
2006-11-17 08:05:00 PM  
that's just an awesome article.
 
2006-11-17 08:28:18 PM  
I've had a crappy day and this article was just the ticket to make me misty.
 
2006-11-17 08:42:07 PM  
Shirley Ujest: I've had a crappy day and this article was just the ticket to make me misty.

I've had a great day, and that made me misty as hell.

That's farking awesome.
 
2006-11-17 10:08:17 PM  
Best use of the "Hero" tag in a long time.
 
2006-11-17 11:15:13 PM  
Never, EVER let it be said that a Green Beret doesn't know how to party.
 
2006-11-17 11:15:44 PM  
PowerPoint?
 
2006-11-17 11:18:54 PM  
Anyone read how he died...?


Flying over the desert at night is as disorienting as flying over a black ocean. Toz believed that the helicopter had touched down. He stepped out. It was more than 100 feet off the ground and thundering ahead at 100 mph.


=[
 
2006-11-17 11:21:16 PM  
WOW!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Either way, the HERO tag is, indeed, warranted.
 
2006-11-17 11:22:39 PM  
He stepped out of his helo at 100 feet above ground, at 100mph. Damn, what way to go.

That said, man's a hero, and next beer I drink I'll raise my glass to him.

RIP, Capt. Toczylowski.
 
2006-11-17 11:22:40 PM  
Jackson Herring - Anyone read how he died...?


Flying over the desert at night is as disorienting as flying over a black ocean. Toz believed that the helicopter had touched down. He stepped out. It was more than 100 feet off the ground and thundering ahead at 100 mph.

=[


Ouch. I know I'm gonna get flamed but it has to be said:

Kerry was right!!!
 
2006-11-17 11:23:03 PM  
oh, and great scott! That is a splendidly written article.

Seriously, I'm getting misty-eyed in the middle of the office right now. I can only hope that some day I can write anything as moving as that piece.
 
2006-11-17 11:26:25 PM  
:starts a slow clap:
 
2006-11-17 11:27:13 PM  
I don 't want to be at any party with a limbo contest,

but I would make and exception here.

//"thats a bad naked"
 
2006-11-17 11:28:41 PM  
and just in case that one wasn't enough...

Hero?

100k to get your friends drunk in Las Vegas or 100k worth of armor for your brothers in arms? Decisions, decisions...
 
2006-11-17 11:29:16 PM  
:starts a slow clap:


:joins in, increasing speed and volume:
 
2006-11-17 11:30:56 PM  
Sounds like a good man. Pity about the politics.
 
2006-11-17 11:31:44 PM  
Celebrate life, not death. Awesome story.
 
2006-11-17 11:32:02 PM  
From what I understand if you purchase and use your own armour you may disqualify your benificiary from recieving the life insurance. Oh yeah, and get your head out of your arse
 
2006-11-17 11:33:55 PM  
If he knew how to tuck and roll properly, we wouldn't be reading this story.
 
2006-11-17 11:35:01 PM  
Its a great story. And when I was done reading it, I knew there would be trolls in this thread. Technicolor Misfit, you are a douche.
 
2006-11-17 11:35:38 PM  
Hero per se, and that's a high standard.
 
2006-11-17 11:35:47 PM  
I don't doubt that pitch black can take away from your sense of speed or height. But isn't there some sort of signal given by the pilot before dismounting a chopper?

/still a great story
 
2006-11-17 11:35:52 PM  
technicolor-misfit

Ouch. I know I'm gonna get flamed but it has to be said:

Kerry was right!!!



Well, this isn't a flame, but I don't see the correlation between education and a wrong move. When your life depends upon your next step, how likely is anyone to make the right choice? The biggest decision most US civilians are worrying about is whether to order extra cheese on the pizza or spring for the breadsticks...this guy was loaded for bear and dropping into a hostile situation. When your nerves are wired that tight, and your very life is on the line, can you say that you wouldn't have done the same thing? Living it is a lot different than reading about it.
 
2006-11-17 11:38:44 PM  
The next time I'm in vegas, I'm rolling the dice for you, sir! Thanks for serving out country and ... most importantly, thanks for dieing in doing something you believe in.

I only hope I can go out in the same way.

You are a demi-god, sir.

I love you.
 
2006-11-17 11:38:54 PM  
NOW THAT IS FARKING MINDSET!

RIP Captain.
 
2006-11-17 11:39:02 PM  
Definitely a hero tag. He helped everyone who knew him recover from his loss.

And why are we wondering why he jumped out of the helo when it's so easy to get disoriented. Shouldn't we be wondering why the fark his squad didn't stop him?
 
2006-11-17 11:40:04 PM  
Thats an great story and quite the ending to a great life.

I'm just a little taken aback by how he died. I've flown on a few night missions on Blackhawks through Iraq and I'm not understanding how he could mistake a landing while they're moving. Perhaps they were experiencing some turbulence, but a landing is a very distinctive feeling. Not only that but we always wore NODs and the chalk commander would wear a headset for direct communication to the pilot. Strange, but I suppose there are a few variables that come in to play.
 
2006-11-17 11:40:33 PM  
As right as Hackfleisch, MickCollins, and Farked_in_the_NW are, and as much of a coontwipe as technicolor -misfit is, I just can't believe that we're discussing some moron with his head up his ass more than a man who, in death, showed us all how to respect a well-lived life.

/Be excellent to one another
//Party on, dude
 
2006-11-17 11:41:50 PM  
technicolor-misfit: Ouch. I know I'm gonna get flamed but it has to be said:

Kerry was right!!


Way off base. Not only did he graduate from high school but he was also a college grad.

Get a life
 
2006-11-17 11:42:29 PM  
Good, thatguyfred, I was hoping somebody had been in this position before. I had no idea how he could have done this...did he just take off running without talking to anybody? Was this a communication breakdown?
 
2006-11-17 11:42:34 PM  
"The party was the challenge. But Peggy and Pam say Jeffrey was wise, and they're convinced he knew that assigning them planning duties would keep their minds off of losing a son and brother."

This was an excellent man.
 
2006-11-17 11:42:50 PM  
and just in case that one wasn't enough...

Hero?

100k to get your friends drunk in Las Vegas or 100k worth of armor for your brothers in arms? Decisions, decisions...


No offense, but if you're brave enough to risk your life, you can do as you please. This guy is a hero. You're just a troll.
 
2006-11-17 11:45:14 PM  
"Don't ever think that you are defending me by slamming the Global War on Terrorism or the U.S. goals in that war," Toczylowski wrote. "As far as I am concerned, we can send guys like me to go after them or we can wait for them to come back to us again. I died doing something I believed in and have no regrets except that I couldn't do more."

Well, he was thoroughly brainwashed. That's for sure. From his words to the way he allocated his funds they guy wasn't very bright. My son is a soldier and trust me, a hero speaks out against the government who is killing our soldiers. It's too bad this guy died but wearing a uniform and drinking the kool aid does not a hero make.
 
2006-11-17 11:45:30 PM  
I'm with thatguyfred on the accident question.

How common is it to step out of a moving helicopter that is 100 feet off the ground, by mistake? I don't think it's a mistake that anyone would make, no matter how wired.
 
2006-11-17 11:47:42 PM  
aphexcoil
This guy is a hero. You're just a troll.

Actually, were all just energy with no purpose. My beer tastes good though.
 
2006-11-17 11:48:37 PM  
Well, he was thoroughly brainwashed. That's for sure. From his words to the way he allocated his funds they guy wasn't very bright. My son is a soldier and trust me, a hero speaks out against the government who is killing our soldiers. It's too bad this guy died but wearing a uniform and drinking the kool aid does not a hero make.

Hero's come in a lot of different colors. Don't think for one second that your definition of one is an absolute that excludes him. He died serving his country.

Let us honor him in death. We enjoy our freedoms because of men like this.
 
2006-11-17 11:49:04 PM  
astudill: Good, thatguyfred, I was hoping somebody had been in this position before. I had no idea how he could have done this...did he just take off running without talking to anybody? Was this a communication breakdown?

Sometimes we ride with doors closed or open depending on what the crew chiefs or mission dictates. Even so with the doors open you've got NODs on (night vision) during a night mission so you're able to see. Also there is the fact that you can see your chalk and what they're doing since you're in tight quarters. Not only that but this guy being SF has done more than enough helo insertions/extractions to be fimiliar with what do and when.

Now perhaps he had been operating with minimal sleep (normal) and slightly dehydrated/hungry so he could have been not so cognizant. I just don't know, I wasn't there.
 
2006-11-17 11:49:38 PM  
Actually, were all just energy with no purpose. My beer tastes good though.

Nihilism will get you nowhere.
 
2006-11-17 11:50:15 PM  
Mija I'm puzzled by your criticism of the way he allocated his funds. hey, the party's a good idea. I assume it was funded by all or part of a life insurance policy. Or maybe he'd been saving up -- and if he lived it would have been retirement money. Nothin' wrong with that.
 
2006-11-17 11:50:47 PM  
Put silver wings on my son's chest
Make him one of America's best
He'll be a man they'll test one day
Take him to Vegas and get him laid.
 
2006-11-17 11:50:52 PM  
I think of how many flag-draped caskets the war in Iraq and Afganistan continues to generate. I am filled with awe that so many continue to make the ultimate sacrifice for their country for people who appreciate them as well as people who don't or know what to think as well as people who don't understand our mission in Iraq and Afganistan here and try to [and do] kill us. I know that most of these men were most likely not killed by anything other than bad conditions, mistakes like stepping into the night from a helocopter that was still in hover and perhaps faulty instruments but they were here doing the job of trying to rebuild this place and now the next time their families see them after their extended absence is in a flag-draped casket. It just humbles me to know soldiers like this. See you on the high ground Toz.
 
2006-11-17 11:51:29 PM  
Mija: My son is a soldier and trust me, a hero speaks out against the government who is killing our soldiers

Some soldiers believe in the mission, others don't. If your son doesn't then good for him.
 
2006-11-17 11:53:49 PM  
aphexcoil, here here!

Mija,

I declare him [HERO] because of two things:

1. He is a volunteer soldier. As someone who as no desire to go to war, I constantly salute every volunteer because, without them, we would still have a draft. Don't jump on me about the draft thing - America needs a military, and if no one volunteered, we would have a draft out of necessity. I salute him for going so that I don't have to.

2. He asked that his funeral celebrate his life and the friends and fun he had, instead of the sadness that his passing brought to his family. I think the world would be a better place if more people celebrated life instead of fearing death.
 
2006-11-17 11:55:13 PM  
This is a wonderful way for a man to see himself out. It's not the fact that he threw a $100k party, it's the fact that he thought enough of his family and friends to throw such a party.
 
2006-11-17 11:55:51 PM  
We farks you up and takes your money aphexcoil
 
2006-11-17 11:55:58 PM  
Hackfleisch - Well, this isn't a flame

That's good, because my post wasn't serious... It was just a joke that was teed up that somebody had to swing at. It may as well be me.

Plus... sacred cows make me nervous, and I know this thread's gonna be loaded with pious assholes self-righetously demanding that people treat this story 'with the respect it deserves.' I don't mind being the guy who tweaks those sanctimonious pricks.

If it was anybody but a soldier (or maybe a cop or firefighter), there'd have already been half a dozen guys making the exact same comments I have... How many Darwin jokes do you suppose we'd have seen by now?

(many of them likely made by some of the very same people who'll be chiding me)
(and my Dad was 101st Airborne in Vietnam in '68, I was always proud of his service and I have a lot of respect for the service of others... I'm just not fond of holier-than-thou grandstanding, so of course... I provoke it.)
 
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