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(AZCentral)   Why use the electric chair when you can use the electric fence?   ( divider line
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5733 clicks; posted to Main » on 19 Jul 2002 at 9:57 AM (15 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-07-19 10:01:48 AM  
Environmentalists are gonna hate this. Claiming it will kill birds and squirrels and stuff.
2002-07-19 10:02:52 AM  
"Don't whiz on the electric fence."
2002-07-19 10:03:56 AM  
Scarneck Most other critters are smart enough to not mess with such things.

I wonder who the unlucky bastard is that is going to test this?
2002-07-19 10:05:57 AM  
"Hey Rocko, they're turning the fence off at 3 for maintenance. Here's your chance!"


No fuss, no muss, no bother.
2002-07-19 10:07:18 AM  
hawk: a friend of mine pissed on an electric fence once. his mother tells the story of his weener swelling (in a bad way) and him having to keep cold presses on it for a few days
2002-07-19 10:07:37 AM  

You ARE kidding, right?
2002-07-19 10:07:58 AM  
"We had some small animals and birds that got whacked," said Russ Heimerich, a California corrections spokesman. "So in the interest of animal correctness, we installed some netting to prevent that."

But you could fed them to the prisoners
2002-07-19 10:08:40 AM  
2002-07-19 10:10:59 AM  
Just put each of the criminals in a bag and throw them over the edge of the Grand Canyon. That should cut down on escapes.
2002-07-19 10:11:53 AM  
Animal correctness? PETA has invaded our prison system??

Hamm said lethal fences serve mainly to intimidate prisoners and help convince the public that inmates are "uncontrollable maniacs." Most recent escapes in Arizona involve inmates who walk away rather than scale fences, she added.

Imagine that - intimidating the prisoners so they behave. How awful!! Oh, the agony!!

"I would rather see $1 million spent on better training of guards or inmate health care," she said.

Yeah. I'm sure you would. Care to cough up the bucks?

I didn't think so.
2002-07-19 10:12:47 AM  
Sounds like a good plan to me. They keep the fence off the ground so as to avoid inadvertant human contact. They even mentioned they would have some netting to prevent birds from flying into the fence.

Also, who cares if a few birds get fried? They get hit by cars all the time. Shiat, some of em even fly into my windows at home.
2002-07-19 10:14:28 AM  
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2002-07-19 10:17:44 AM  
Hope the power never goes out.
2002-07-19 10:17:55 AM  
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"You like that game don't you?!?"

"Ya, eets our favorite game"

"Do you REEEEAAAALLLY like it?!?!?!?..."
2002-07-19 10:18:18 AM  
2002-07-19 11:07:35 AM  
How does an electric fence kill birds? In order to be shocked, some part of you would have to be grounded, no?

Forgive my rudimentary knowledge of basic electronics, but in order to get shocked I thought you had to complete a circuit somehow. If a bird lands on the fence, how does it get grounded? 5000 volts alone doesn't do it, because you have to be connected to something at a different potential in order for current to start flowing.

What am I missing?
2002-07-19 11:08:43 AM  
What would the cost be for a fence from the mouth of the Rio Grande del Norte to the Pacific Ocean? Wouldnt need INS guards out in the hot desert. I like the dead zone idea, used at Andersonville in Civil War and at German camps in WWII. Pissing on the electric fence was done between the surges, if you miscounted time, zap. Pee Pee didnt swell tho. A real man never got shocked.
2002-07-19 11:13:31 AM  
Does anyone else realize that the prison guards name is HAMM!? Hamm......
2002-07-19 11:14:58 AM  
I'm gonna hit ya. And you're gonna fall down. I'm gonna laugh.

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.

But first, but first...

I've gotta take a whiz!
2002-07-19 11:15:42 AM  
2002-07-19 11:16:42 AM  
I wonder if it will look like when that kid got zapped in Jurassic Park
2002-07-19 11:26:04 AM  
"We had some small animals and birds that got whacked,"

Such terminology
2002-07-19 11:28:24 AM  
How does an electric fence kill birds? In order to be shocked, some part of you would have to be grounded, no?

thats correct. birds aren't touching the ground, thus not completing the electrical circuit.

my dad, who's an old-school electrical engineer, told me a story once about a school bus that had crashed into a power pole. the power line fell on the bus, but no one was shocked because the tires closed the circuit. but as soon as the kids were parading out of the exit they were failing down unconscious (some died i think), until an electrical savy guy came up screaming for the kids to stay on the bus and not come out until the killed the power on the line.

as soon as they stepped off the bus, they completed the circuit and got zapped...
2002-07-19 11:39:12 AM  
How do electrical fences shock people that jump onto the fence and then jump off? They aren't grounded, right? Or do they have alternating wires of ground and high voltage running through them?

Morbid curiosity, it is a biatch.
2002-07-19 11:49:47 AM  
Well, it seemd to me as a good idea, also, until I read that they wanted to get rid of the tower guards that way, and that a guy explained that they are used also to control to behaviour of the inmates while in the outside court. And as somebody explained also, the ones that escaped simply walk away, they don't cross the fences.
2002-07-19 11:54:06 AM  
prisoners rights advocate. Someone else besides lawyers that can make money off people commiting crimes. this country is going to shiat.
2002-07-19 12:15:06 PM  
I'm with Sikobabel on this one. If it won't shock a bird cause it isn't touching the ground, why not run at the fence, and jump, climb to the top, climb most of the way down, and then push off. Might twist an ankle or something, but would you ever be shocked? There must be more to it. I can't imagine they've overlooked this thought.
2002-07-19 12:32:15 PM  
Easily defeated. 5,000 volts loves to be grounded out. At around 4,000 volts, a bare cable will short out on top of concrete, dispersing enough energy to cause the water inside the concrete to explode into the air. What is left will melt and create conductive trails, much like what lightning strikes do.

I used to work at a wire manufacturing plant and had fun troubleshooting the high voltage test equipment. Nothing like 150,000 volts at 1/2 megawatt. Or 30,000 volts at 5 amps. Ever see lightning bolts underwater? Heated a cup of coffee with 5,000 volts in 5 seconds to the boiling point?

An electric fence is no substitute for a good old fashioned shotgun shell in the back.
2002-07-19 01:36:07 PM  
The electric chair - the best way to prevent disease among prisoners.
2002-07-19 01:49:47 PM  
They always quote voltage but never amperage...
2002-07-19 04:55:27 PM  
Things don't neccessairly need to be grounded in order to get shocked, do they? I mean flies aren't grounded but those bug zappers manage to do the trick.

And the electric fence in Jurassic Park shocked Tim, but he wasn't grounded either, and I refuse to believe that there is anything less than perfect science in Jurassic Park.
Ant [TotalFark]
2002-07-19 05:15:23 PM  
Screw the electric fence. They need to get ED 209
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2002-07-20 12:40:04 AM  
I would assume that the fence would be made of insulated wires running parallel to the ground. Half of them would be grounded and the other half live. If the voltage/frequincy is high enough you wouldn't eaven have to touch either of the wires. The juice could jump directly though you from one wire to the next because you provide that little bit less resistance from wire to wire then the air does.
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