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(Guardian Series)   People in UK freak out when bomb is found in doorway. Actualy it was a 22 rimfire round, but reporter writes article as if it was a backpack nuke. EVERYBODY PANIC   (guardian-series.co.uk) divider line 172
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2006-11-11 08:58:56 AM
If it goes bang? It's a bloody 22. You are hard pressed to have one go POP let along BANG. I'd say the chance of a 22 round going off outside of a gun and killing or causing serious harm to someone is a lot less than the chances of aliens invading London tomorrow.

There are firecrackers with more explosive power than a 22.
 
2006-11-11 08:58:58 AM
Senator Claghorn:
Don't know what to make of the article vastly overplaying the danger of a .22 short round and totally glossing over "Haroon Khan" having a gun license.

Yes I'm sure he's just waiting to shoot up a synagogue. His prompt notification of the police upon finding a SINGLE BULLET clearly pegs him as a ruthless individual. Hmm, actually no, it makes him a well-integrated middle-class fussypants. Just throw it in the trash, dude.

Schadenfruede:
We keep the ammo in the supermarket because that's where all the tea is at.

OK, I'll admit that was funny.
 
2006-11-11 08:59:10 AM
Yeah, well, I've got one of these babies in my basement:

hedman.ca

That's a live and primed .177 round.
You mess with me and I'll give you an annoying bruise.
 
2006-11-11 09:02:10 AM
treefitty

I had to double-check that this wasn't The Onion.


That was my first thought.

Deathfrogg

Jesus H Christ in a chariot driven sidecar. You farkin pommies have become the most pussifeid, lamest bunch of weenies I've ever seen.


That was my second thought. Get out of my mind!

Seriously, it looks like someone could take over England now using a board with a nail in it. Churchill must be spinning in his grave.
 
2006-11-11 09:03:25 AM
This is nuts, especially since it is a .22 SHORT they are panicking about.

A .22 short is not the "typical" .22 cartridge... the .22 Long Rifle is what most people commonly consider a .22 bullet to be.

For perspective (.22 Short on left and .22 Long Rifle on right):
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2006-11-11 09:05:11 AM
Snarfangel FTW
 
2006-11-11 09:05:53 AM
I found a live .22 round in the dirt next to a gas station. I just picked it up and tossed it in a dumpster. I figured if it went off in the dumpster at least the dumpster would catch the slug.
 
2006-11-11 09:07:02 AM
2006-11-11 09:05:53 AM stonent

I found a live .22 round in the dirt next to a gas station. I just picked it up and tossed it in a dumpster. I figured if it went off in the dumpster at least the dumpster would catch the slug.

And it would do exactly that. Bravo my friend.
 
2006-11-11 09:07:58 AM
I shoot friendlies:

Two birds with one stone.

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2006-11-11 09:11:45 AM
[TotalFark]

This is nuts, especially since it is a .22 SHORT they are panicking about.


thank you for showing the difference.

/a .22 short is used for killing a snake if your so inclined and accurate.
//a .22 long is used for killing a crow under the same circumstances.
 
2006-11-11 09:13:14 AM
....and to think, 100 years ago, this nation ruled the planet.

Britannia, what the hell happened to you? Even the French wouldn't find this newsworthy.

//sad//
 
2006-11-11 09:13:38 AM
Wow, no pedants whining that it was not a bullet that he found, it was a CARTRIDGE. Guess I'm teh bewbies.

Fow what it is worth, a friend's dad runs a small construction business. He has a hand-held device that uses .22 rounds to help drive nails into concrete. I think that's pretty sweet right there.
 
2006-11-11 09:14:52 AM
I hate to say it, but it sounds like it is coming of time for an england revolution.

/I support your attempt at freedom
//Do you pussies have what it takes to make it happen?
 
2006-11-11 09:21:56 AM
malcy: I just call it that because thats how your Prez says it

Thats not how Heston says it.

Oh, you mean that other guy.
 
2006-11-11 09:22:33 AM
2006-11-11 09:14:52 AM LightCloud

I hate to say it, but it sounds like it is coming of time for an england revolution.

/I support your attempt at freedom
//Do you pussies have what it takes to make it happen?


Yes, and please feel free to use our constitution and the sage advice of our founding fathers.

Because God knows our government isn't using a single scrap of it......
 
2006-11-11 09:31:56 AM
squirrel hunting? what's the point?
 
2006-11-11 09:35:50 AM
Lachewpacabra:
Britannia, what the hell happened to you? Even the French wouldn't find this newsworthy.

Oh come on, it's not like it's reported as important national news, it's just a story in some local London supplement to the Guardian.
Anyone who's worked in local news knows that nothing is too small or unimportant to get a write-up, and pretty much every story will be blown out of proportion.
I doubt the BBC is going to pick this up.
 
2006-11-11 09:36:54 AM
do the Brits have their own version of the Knight Industries Two Thousand? Could have just tossed that incendiary device inside to safely detonate it...at the last second!
 
2006-11-11 09:38:34 AM
IT'S A MESSAGE YOU ASSHAT!

Pay up or else!!!

Next it will be a bulletproof vest with a fish in it.
 
2006-11-11 09:40:22 AM
I can't imagine this article is anything but satire. I mean, we all know how anti-gun the British are, but this was just way over the top.

How can you feel safe when you are finding things like this on the street?

Buahahahahahahah!
 
2006-11-11 09:43:41 AM
dagger75: have a box of 50 of these bombs sitting in my closet.


In my vehicle as we speak is a box of 550 rounds of .22 (probably have about 200 in it) a couple of boxes of 20 guage, 12 guage, 6 rounds of .30-30 (4 of those are Remington Accelerators) a box of .30-06, half a box of .45 auto and a couple of dozen rounds of .357

I need to clean it out I suppose.
 
2006-11-11 09:43:42 AM
You can do some damage with a .22, even a short round.

Still isn't worthy of this over reaction, or any reaction at all, really, but it prolly means that someone nearby has a small .22 pistol that can be easily concealed. They're fun to shoot, highly inaccurate, loud as hell, and while lethal, it's pretty much only if you get really lucky. Or if they're kneeling and you put two in their skull. They're preferred for that because they don't blow out the guy's skull, they just rattle around inside, scrambling the brains up a bit.

/everybody panic
 
2006-11-11 10:04:16 AM
Fire itself??? I think I may send a box of .22's out squirrel hunting for me this morning. If only .22 ammo could clean and cook those squirrels, too.

Maybe I'll just send my car down to the store to get some groceries...


THE WINNER!! CLOSE THIS THREAD!!
 
2006-11-11 10:07:05 AM
Hacker_X: If it goes bang? It's a bloody 22. You are hard pressed to have one go POP let along BANG. I'd say the chance of a 22 round going off outside of a gun and killing or causing serious harm to someone is a lot less than the chances of aliens invading London tomorrow.

There are firecrackers with more explosive power than a 22.



Yes, the .22 does make more of a pop, but they are plenty lethal. A .22LR loaded in a handgun and fired at point blank range at the back of your skull is pretty much 100% lethal. The round can penetrate one side of the skull, but just bounces off the other side. It ends up bouncing around inside your head and turning your brain into Swiss cheese.

/4 out of 5 mob hit men can't be wrong
 
2006-11-11 10:08:42 AM
Rather than someone owning a gun, the bullet was probably dropped by someone using a home-made zip gun:

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When guns are outlawed, only minimally mechanically inclined outlaws will own guns...
 
2006-11-11 10:09:18 AM
They are scared of a .22 more because of the damn metric system.
 
2006-11-11 10:10:39 AM
madgonad: .22LR loaded in a handgun and fired at point blank range at the back of your skull is pretty much 100% lethal.


Quite true...this was a short however and without the compression within a rifle barrel, this round was quite harmless.
 
2006-11-11 10:11:33 AM
Someone beat me to the Onion article comment. To be fair, there are articles in American newspapers overwrought and hyperbolic too.
 
2006-11-11 10:12:17 AM
squirrel hunting? what's the point?

Tastes like chicken... Dirty, gamy chicken...
 
2006-11-11 10:15:35 AM
"complete with enough gunpowder for it to fire itself."

Guns don't kill people. Bullets fire themselves and kill people.
 
2006-11-11 10:17:53 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: Quite true...this was a short however and without the compression within a rifle barrel, this round was quite harmless.

I tell you what. You kneel down there, and I'll shoot a couple at the back of your head.

No?
 
2006-11-11 10:21:21 AM
scotttothety: You kneel down there, and I'll shoot a couple at the back of your head.


You going to hold them in your hand without the use of a firearm to make them lethal as this loose round was found?

Get to it fukkhead.
 
2006-11-11 10:22:16 AM
scotttothety: I tell you what. You kneel down there, and I'll shoot a couple at the back of your head.

Just so we're clear, I meant a couple .22 shorts.

Not the other thing I usually shoot at people kneeling down.
 
2006-11-11 10:23:27 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: You going to hold them in your hand without the use of a firearm to make them lethal as this loose round was found?

Your post made it sound like a rifle was required to make it lethal, and that a pistol wouldn't do the trick.

Get to it fukkhead.

Not sure where this came from. Have you had your coffee yet?
 
2006-11-11 10:23:56 AM
scotttothety: I tell you what. You kneel down there, and I'll shoot a couple at the back of your head.

Dancin's right. Without a gun these won't even give you a bruise.
 
2006-11-11 10:27:14 AM
Fish in a Barrel: Dancin's right. Without a gun these won't even give you a bruise.

Look genius, I never said they were lethal just lying there. Goddamnit people like you are idiots.

If you want to discuss firearms with me, give it your best shot. My weapon of choice in the Army was a 120MM cannon. I've forgotten more about firearms than you will ever know.
 
2006-11-11 10:33:27 AM
scotttothety: Not sure where this came from

Let me remind you

tell you what. You kneel down there, and I'll shoot a couple at the back of your head.

You are welcome to eat the peanuts from my shiat.
 
2006-11-11 10:36:46 AM
img84.imageshack.us

was he headed for the farmer's market?

/no more parachutes!
 
2006-11-11 10:38:02 AM
scotttothety: Look genius, I never said they were lethal just lying there. Goddamnit people like you are idiots.

Hang on there, sparky. I was writing when you posted your clarification. Dancin originally noted that these were loose rounds and was pointing out that in the condition they were in your statement could be construed as overstating their lethality. You seemed to have missed that he was talking about naked rounds when you fired off your reply. Hence the dismissive and unnecessarily insulting second reply from him.

Now your further replies hadn't been posted at the time of my contribution, or I wouldn't have bothered.

I've forgotten more about firearms than you will ever know.

Doubt it. I've got a very good memory, and a fondness for things that go boom. Plus, I've met too many military folk who (for instance) thought "gas operated" meant something hilariously untrue for that to convince me of you knowledge.
 
2006-11-11 10:39:45 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: Quite true...this was a short however and without the compression within a rifle barrel, this round was quite harmless.

The post did make it sound as if a rifle were required, and that a pistol would not be lethal.

Probably not what you meant, but I can see where the misapprehension came from.
 
2006-11-11 10:43:59 AM
scotttothety

Look genius, I never said they were lethal just lying there.

No, the article did, then Dancin_in-Anson pointed out the painfully obvious fact that without a chamber to hold the brass, if the round managed to cook off "somehow" then it would pretty much be a non-event.

Goddamnit people like you are idiots.

Try reading?
 
2006-11-11 10:59:35 AM
The article cannot capture the level of danger and terror, that had to exist that day. After Mr. Khan had thrown himself on the grenade, I mean picked the cartridge up and called the cops, it only took the local constabulary an hour and sixteen minutes to rush over. Maybe they were putting on those bulky bomb diposal suits and then it took longer to waddle over to Khan's shop, than they thought it would.
 
2006-11-11 11:02:24 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: You are welcome to eat the peanuts from my shiat.

You still a little cranky from Tuesday's elections? I was just pointing out that as non-lethal as you implied they were (the post to which I was responding did not mention a pistol), they could scramble a brain just fine.

In any event, go get some coffee, or a hug, or something to get rid of that snark. It's too early for you to get your blood pressure up like that. Old fella like you might not make it through the day.

As for the rest of you, well, bite me.
 
2006-11-11 11:05:47 AM
A cartridge without a gun is little more than a firecracker, in the unlikely event one manages to set it off.
 
2006-11-11 11:06:36 AM
People have this idea in their head that if a round goes off without being in a weapon the slug will go flying. this does not happen. The slug is the heavier part so it stays stationary and the brass is the what will move.

Just don't use one 25mm round as a hammer on another. That can be bad as we found out.
 
2006-11-11 11:24:55 AM
What is it with the gun nuts on Fark.com?

First, that article did not mention bombs...What the hell was submitter on about?

Second, since when is England full of 'p*ssy gun-fobes'? There are loads of rifle shooting clubs in England, one of which i belong to. Its just we dont let people own guns at home, and shoot their friends and family with them, like you yanks do on such a regular basis.

I realise that a .22 round is fairly harmless, but so is a clean sterile syringe. What would you do if you found a clean sterile syringe lying in a doorway? You would ask yourself, why the fark is that there? They use those in hospitals, not in my local shop.

If someone sees a bullet lying on the ground in england, we ask ourselves, why is there a bullet on the floor? They use those in rifle shooting ranges, not in my local shop.

Ok so it was a .22 round, and they do FA, but hey, at least that syringe you stepped on was clean and wasn't infected with AIDS...
 
2006-11-11 11:33:12 AM
While burning some trash(paper)I once burned up a .22LR it penetrated the steel barrel(rusted out) and bounced off of my boot. The only reason I think it even punctured the steel drum is because the trash was so tightly packed. If I .22LR can barely make it through a rusted piece of 20 gauge steel and then bounce off of a boot while in a fairly confined space, I doubt a .22Short poses any real danger, if not fired from some sort of gun.
 
2006-11-11 11:39:46 AM
null/void
I imagine if it was a real round, an American may be more concerned. But seeing as it was a round that 10 year old girls shoot it would not be a major concern.

England has been full of pussies for a long time. Also there are more guns per capita in Canada than the USA, yet they have far fewer gun deaths. Guns do not kill people assholes kill people, and we seem to have a lot of those.

/You have bad teeth and sound like nancy boys
 
2006-11-11 11:50:11 AM
Uncle Karl

/You have bad teeth and sound like nancy boys



You don't sound old enough to be anyone's uncle.

/just sayin'
 
2006-11-11 11:53:09 AM
How do you put a bullet in a syringe?
 
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