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2006-11-08 03:51:42 AM
Ted Williams the baseball player was frozen at the alcor foundation...
 
2006-11-08 03:59:54 AM
Nanoparticles can also be hazardous. Some normally inactive elements, such as gold, become very active as nanoparticles (especially when excited by uniquitous infrared photons in the case of gold).
 
2006-11-08 04:14:40 AM
Call me crazy, but I wouldn't want to live forever.

My mind is not prepared for infinity and I have accepted the fact that I have a fixed period of time in which to enjoy every moment of my life. If I had an eternity, I would find it unbearable due to the sheer lack of joy at living. Nothing would be worth the hundreds, thousands of years of crushing boredom, apathy and numbness.

Better to live a fulfilling, brief life than spend millenia in agonizing emptiness.
 
2006-11-08 04:23:56 AM
The issue is not whether or not you'd be immortal. The issue is that you'd be able to choose your time of death.

Nobody would want to live forever. But a quiet, painless suicide after your 400th birthday sounds pretty nice.
 
2006-11-08 04:28:47 AM
ArizonaBay: Nobody would want to live forever. But a quiet, painless suicide after your 400th birthday sounds pretty nice.

400 years on this earth? No thanks, man. I like to think I'm not a fatalist, but something about "knowing" that I only have - at best - 80 years on this planet is good for me. I'm not religious, so I'm not waiting for some better afterlife, but I like knowing that I only have no more than 80 years to do what I want to do. Keeps me focused. :)
 
2006-11-08 04:36:33 AM
palisade_hacker: I'm not religious, so I'm not waiting for some better afterlife, but I like knowing that I only have no more than 80 years to do what I want to do. Keeps me focused. :)


Living four centuries would be less about needing that time for doing what I want to do and more about wanting to see what the world will become.
 
2006-11-08 05:16:08 AM
ArizonaBay: Living four centuries would be less about needing that time for doing what I want to do and more about wanting to see what the world will become.

You know, I'd rather not see that. I've got a bad feeling about this whole thing....
 
2006-11-08 05:16:57 AM
I want to live until the end of farking time, personally.
 
2006-11-08 06:05:17 AM
I'm with Cyclometh on this...

I got too much stuff to do.. too many girls to fark... and so little time.

:(
 
2006-11-08 08:50:47 AM
palisade_hacker: Better to live a fulfilling, brief life than spend millenia in agonizing emptiness.

agonizing emptiness for me please...
 
2006-11-08 08:55:56 AM
Last I checked, it was spelled "extension", and not "extention" like they have many, many times in the article.

And I can think of a few things to do with eternity that I wouldn't mind doing..
 
2006-11-08 10:56:21 AM
So all the religious folks won't be interested in this tech right?

Cool, all the more immortality for the rest of us then!
 
2006-11-08 10:57:24 AM
Living forever would be meaningless unless my existence wasn't contingent upon something else.
 
2006-11-08 10:59:47 AM
I'll settle for some boosterspice.

I would love a bicentenial, but I think I would call it quits not too long after that.

Maybe take a sabbatical in a space ship, all by myself.

/Just call me Louis
 
2006-11-08 11:00:18 AM
Eh, technomancers don't need implants -- he can BlackHammer his foes, wireless style.

/DNRTFA
/oops, Mr. Johnson is calling...
 
2006-11-08 11:01:16 AM
I'm personallly hoping they just come up with a way to simulate the effects of sleep. Immortality is a ways off. I'd jump at the chance to never feel tired over my normal lifespan though :)
 
2006-11-08 11:01:48 AM
As long as my genetically-engineered lawn can tell kids to get the hell off it, I'm all for living forever.
 
2006-11-08 11:01:49 AM
I'm thinking I could stand to play through the first 9 final fantasies again. I won't if I only live to be 90 tho!
 
2006-11-08 11:03:14 AM
You know who would be the first person to buy this and live forever?
That's right, Paris Hilton.

For the sake of humanity, this research must be stopped!
/Didn't RTFA
 
2006-11-08 11:04:13 AM
Abe Vigoda unavailable for comment.
 
2006-11-08 11:04:38 AM
I don't want to live forever, but I would like a nanotech primer.

ec1.images-amazon.com
 
2006-11-08 11:04:42 AM
I'm first in line to go full cyborg, thankyouverymuch.

And i'm going to have my own Tachikoma.
 
2006-11-08 11:05:00 AM
This technology has the potential to push back the ultimate variable which is human life. It is well documented that the only reason that life has a natural timespan, is because of the deterioration of certain organs, tissues, cells, etc. So what if you were able to regenerate or "fix" these elements at cell level within the human body? What happens if you could replace dead cells with living cells?

Riiiiight. And mixing Nestle Quick and powdered milk together makes chocolate milk. I see the effort of replacing individual cells akin to organ transplant, albeit on a cellular scale. What happens if the body rejects the cells? Stem cells, I guess, right? I just see some kind of freaky-deaky unstoppable cancer forming, like a bad Fox special: WHEN STEM CELLS GO BAD.

 
2006-11-08 11:05:28 AM
Rust never sleeps.

/probably a bad back
 
2006-11-08 11:06:28 AM
Irene Carra wanted to live forever.
 
2006-11-08 11:08:15 AM
Immortality sounds just fine to me, thanks.

I could do a million years, no sweat. I'm THAT self-affirming.
 
2006-11-08 11:12:48 AM
I am reminded of Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged. Queue the dog + brocolli picture.
 
2006-11-08 11:14:31 AM
Write music. Through it, live forever.
 
2006-11-08 11:16:41 AM
Yes, I want to live forever. Not looking forward to becoming worm food, then worm sh*t. If you are, good for you.

/not sure if there is an afterlife
 
2006-11-08 11:21:55 AM
What would Lazarus Long have to say about all of this?
 
2006-11-08 11:24:41 AM
Shadow Blasko

Nice. I'm thinking I'd rather be Nevil Clavain, personally.
 
2006-11-08 11:26:18 AM
If we would live for a longer period of time, like 400 yrs, then we would have to face the fact that our planet is running out of resources and if no one died from natural causes, then we would have even more of a population problem. On the other hand, if my family, loved ones, and I were the only ones to live forever, then the rest of you could DIAF and I would be okay with it.
 
2006-11-08 11:27:22 AM
!THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

i15.photobucket.com
 
2006-11-08 11:29:13 AM
Thanks for putting the theme from Fame in my head, submitter.
 
2006-11-08 11:29:26 AM
The writers have already told us that the smoke monster is not nanobots.

2006-11-08 11:21:55 AM AwfulJackass

Probably not much. He'd have left a while ago.

"When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere."
 
2006-11-08 11:31:00 AM
The human Brain could not handle an infinite life span. Unless these machines can rewire your neurological paths of every single synaspe of your brain of which there is billions you mind will eventual degrade and eventual stop working all together. So you would spend an infinity as comatose vegitable - nice. I'll pass thank you. secondily why the fark would any one want to put a computer in there bodies? I don't spam in my farking brain become a mindless drone- i refuse to shed my humanity. Science is the same thing as religion it requires an extraoinary amount of faith and very little reason. Nanotechnology is the greatest threat human beings have devised.
 
2006-11-08 11:31:09 AM
can someone give me a Dick Clark pic with a /not impressed ?

thanks in advance

your pal

d_s
 
2006-11-08 11:33:44 AM
written in this book:

http://tinyurl.com/y4jnr6
 
2006-11-08 11:36:18 AM
palisade_hacker

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't want to live forever.

My mind is not prepared for infinity and I have accepted the fact that I have a fixed period of time in which to enjoy every moment of my life. If I had an eternity, I would find it unbearable due to the sheer lack of joy at living. Nothing would be worth the hundreds, thousands of years of crushing boredom, apathy and numbness.

Better to live a fulfilling, brief life than spend millenia in agonizing emptiness.


That's what young people ALL say. Just wait till you are a 90 year old man dying of cancer and on your death bed, surrounded by loved ones, and thinking back at all the things you still havent done in life and you wouldn't be thinking that way.
 
2006-11-08 11:37:37 AM
Only boring people get bored.

Sign me up for eternity!
 
2006-11-08 11:38:32 AM
Yeah, I gotta say that I totally want to live forever. The biatch about life is that you get to open the book, but you don't get to see how the story ends.

I'll be damned if I don't want to see what real space travel is all about, and that's gonna take some time, I'm afraid. Plus, I'm sure someone will come up with a way to make Jurassic Park a reality, and that's gotta be worth the price of admission.
 
2006-11-08 11:40:34 AM
Franco: The human Brain could not handle an infinite life span.

The human brain is nothing more than a series of electrical impulses controlled by chemical reactions.

A computer given the correct storage capacity and speed could replicate a human mind with ease, or very possibly substitute in place of.

Shame on you all to.. no Ghost in the Shell references.
 
2006-11-08 11:42:57 AM
I came in for the religious freaks vs arm-chair scientists debate. I stayed for the Highlander gag.

Personally, infinate lifespan, even if possible, will be heavily regulated to a select few. I'm sure of that. However, I'd be satisfied if my own could be extended a a few decades past what I'll probably get, with a side-order of nanobots to clear the smoke tar from my lungs and fix my damn leg.

\"Who Wants to Live Forever" by Queen or Bronx Casket Co. Either one works
 
2006-11-08 11:45:39 AM
A lot of people say they don't want to live forever because they'd be unhappy or bored, but from the point of view of psychology, old people, young people, smart people, dumb people, blind people, sighted people all have the same average happiness level. People predict that changes will have long-lasting effects, but after you've become acclimated to the change (which happens faster than you'd think) you're at the same happiness level you were at before.

So the question isn't "how happy will I be if I can live forever?" it's "do I want to be as happy as I am right now for eternity?"
 
2006-11-08 11:46:46 AM
Theres no time for us
Theres no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
From us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?

Theres no chance for us
Its all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever?
When love must die

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?



It's in my head...It's in my head. Can't get it out.
Get out of my head!!!!!!
 
2006-11-08 11:47:19 AM
I just want to live long enough to play around in the holodeck for a while. Then I'm ready to go.
 
2006-11-08 11:50:41 AM
HelmetTesterTJ: I just want to live long enough to play around in the holodeck for a while. Then I'm ready to go.

Seriously. I would misuse that for 200 days straight in ways that would make Wilt Chamberlain seem gay.
 
2006-11-08 11:50:42 AM
I'm surprised no nutty Singularitarians have shown up in this thread yet.

I'd classify myself as an Extropian, with no particular pressing time table. Eternity here I come.

/Doesn't need to be human.
//One conciousness isn't enough.
///Distributed existence is the way to go.
////Why are you staring at me like that?!
 
2006-11-08 11:53:59 AM
Depends. If the nanobots will be a Microsoft product, then no.

//Eternity being rebooted is no fun.
 
2006-11-08 11:54:42 AM
ArizonaBay: Nanoparticles can also be hazardous. Some normally inactive elements, such as gold, become very active as nanoparticles (especially when excited by uniquitous infrared photons in the case of gold).

Gold is quite biocompatible. In all the studies I have seen, IR excitation in gold nanoparticles quickly relaxes and emits a photon. Can you point me to a study that shows it keeps its excited state? Are you saying that it can form free radicals?

Also very interesting for nano-bio applications are nanoshells. For instance, take a core of Si02 and cover it with a thin shell of gold. You can achieve plasmon resonance at different frequencies very easily by simply adjusting the ratio of the thickness of the shell of the diameter of the core. You now have a biocompatible nanoparticle whose excitation frequency is easily tunable without having to worry about bandgap stuff because its the plasmons doing the work. Cool stuff.
 
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