Former sworn enemies of the US

England
Spain
France
Germany
Italy
Russia
China
Japan
Vietnam
Mexico

Just to name a few.

Why is this so surprising? People change. Nations change. The world changes. Only ideologues, zealots, and Fark trolls never change.

Personally, I hope W is right about this. I also wish he'd get off his ass and do something to make it more likely.

Unfortunately, the usage of the nukes in Japan was because the President UNDERSTOOD the mindset of the Japanese people, he and all of his military leaders understood the situation, understood what the Japanese believed and felt, and thus he took the course he knew would win them the war and save the most lives while at the same time destroying the will of the Japanese to fight.

"hopefully without the whole "let's drop two nuclear bombs on them" thing"

damn, I knew we forgot a step...

Seriously though, I have a feeling they'll take care of that part themselves.

People change. Nations change. Hairstyles change. Interest rates fluctuate.

I listened to this speech on CSPAN last night and I have to say he's insanely delusional.....It's like Tim Burton's take on 'Idealism'.....

Riche: He totally looks like he should be an announcer on a Japanese game show!

About the story, I have three words

Glass Parking Lot!

MindStalker

Glass Parking Lot!

A three word vocabulary is two words more than this president. Now if you could make an actual sentence out of them you would be more articulate than our current President....and just as wrong....

friendinpa: Former sworn enemies of the US

England
Spain
France
Germany
Italy
Russia
China
Japan
Vietnam
Mexico
The Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

Just to name a few.

Problem is, Japan was only the sworn enemy of US because they wanted to control the East Asian resources, not because of conflicting religious ideologies. Religious extremists have a way of not forgiving stuff.

erm.. we were justified in making war with japan. that's one reason people were able to get over it.

Does the US really want to start a new war with mr Roadmap to Rapture ex cocaine taking alcoholic at the helm?

I doubt it...

Wait 'till someone smart is at the helm for gawds sake.

Vote Dem this time, then vote in a decent Conservative next time.

Iran won't have nukes for years even if they carry on as they are...

Umm...yeah...I'm sure the Muslim population would love to see their culture reduced to anime, neon, and completely unabashed commercialism. Wait a minute...why do the terrorists hate us again?

So desperate to compare this war with WWII when it's actually closer to Vietnam.

Not that either are particularly good comparisons.

inFARKshun: So desperate to compare this war with WWII when it's actually closer to Vietnam.

I believe you hit the nail on the head.

Former sworn enemies of the US

Former, eh? That would be why Canada didn't make the list ;)

/ W is living in cloud-cukooo land.

Former enemies? How about our former allies? Stalin's USSR and Saddam's Iraq were both our ally before they were our enemy (daggum flip-floppers), Batista's Cuba was our ally, bin Laden's Afghanistan -- well, that was more Cold War posturing than actual alliance, but we did support them -- and the list could go on...

Oh yes, having mr internet or mr gunboat would have just been great. Lots of tough decisions guys. Where are the answers from the dems. Just stand aside and let the real men take care of this thing. There are no easy answers but then again the goose stepping sheeple libs can't do anything on their own and never have any ideas except scorning W.

You see, here is the problem. In all past instances the US went in, pasted thier enemies, disarmed them....THEN LEFT AND SAID fark YOU VERY MUCH NOW SORT YOUR OWN shiat OUT. Which seems to have a much better track record IMO.

Postal Penguin:inFARKshun: So desperate to compare this war with WWII when it's actually closer to Vietnam.

I believe you hit the nail on the head.

I don't know if you could really label it "desparate", when he's just making a comparison of the type of relationship that is possible. The war? Could be seen both ways. We are stuck there now ala Vietnam, but on the other hand, have gotten a lot further than we did in Vietnam with regard to building infrastructure.

George Bush doesn't know the history of history. I do!

/gots nothing

NuttierThanEver

More like 60 freakin' years. Otherwise I agree.

Tabatha Static

Whoa, where did you find those?

(From the content of the pictures, I'm assuming that they are anti-war protestors in Japan, correct?)

Jimborg

Tokyo, to be exact.

So Japan is NOT an ally of the US? I am confused now.

bin_smokin:
"You see, here is the problem. In all past instances the US went in, pasted thier enemies, disarmed them....THEN LEFT AND SAID fark YOU VERY MUCH NOW SORT YOUR OWN shiat OUT."

Jesus Christ! What the hell are they teaching in schools these days?

/Moving my 401K to gold, evaporated milk and shotgun shells.

"Oh yes, having mr internet or mr gunboat would have just been great. Lots of tough decisions guys. Where are the answers from the dems. Just stand aside and let the real men take care of this thing. There are no easy answers but then again the goose stepping sheeple libs can't do anything on their own and never have any ideas except scorning W. "

For a start, it's not hard to start a war - anyone can do it - and lots of people have. It's more difficult to stop a war, and more difficult to win a war & Winning a war doesn't just mean blowing a lot of **** up, especially if you spend the next decade trying to resolve the problems you caused when you took the 'hard' decision in the first place.

Plus, let's not imagine that it is the Republican party that is fighting in Iraq - it is the people in the Army and Navy and Airforce that are fighting in Iraq, and as we know, they are as representative of the political spectrum of the US as any other group.

As for scorning Mr Swiftboat, he was the guy that was over fighting in Nam when the Republican politicians were draft dodging in the US. His record shows he was capable of taking rapid and aggressive decisions, but, he is history now that the Republican propaganda machine ripped him to bits.

So, make no mistake, mr Roadmap to Rapture and his dodgy draft dodging doods are not the people you want to start yet another war with.

Semi-obligatory:

why limit the thing to 'sworn enemies'?

/one-sixteenth Blackfoot.
//get yer gated community off my cemetary!

If Georgie boy really wants America and Iraq to be friends, the only way that'll be possible is if the US yeilds control completely. So long as US forces in Iraq remain under the control of the President of the United States, they will be regarded as an occupying force. There is no victory to be had from occupying another man's home.


Anzac Cove

"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets where they lie side by side here in this country of ours... You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. Having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

In order for the Middle East to love America, Bush will have to step down and be replaced by someone they like. I hope he realizes this and does the honorable thing (I'm not holding my breath).

It's worth noting that Germany and Japan both happened to have a few decades of democracy under their belt before the Nazis/militarist clique took over, and so it wasn't that hard for them to revert to that previous model, with a few upgrades.

Iraq hasn't been a democracy. So of course they'll cotton to it perfectly, amirite?

And with the US monkeying with ASEAN right now on free trade agreements, I hardly think they're on ideal terms with Japan.

Dropping two nuclear bombs on japan also had the effect of showing that we were serious and committed to the entire affair.

Can the same be said now, with the media playing up every setback and the Democrats screaming for pullout?

Dave The Slushy

If Georgie boy really wants America and Iraq to be friends, the only way that'll be possible is if the US yeilds control completely. So long as US forces in Iraq remain under the control of the President of the United States, they will be regarded as an occupying force. There is no victory to be had from occupying another man's home.

Uh..... you know it took ten years after WW2 for West Germany to become independantly soveriegn, don't you? And that we get along fine with them now?

Further, Official American occupation of Japan lasted until 1952, and it took until 1956 for Japan to be admitted to the United Nations.

My thesis is that pull-out freaks like the Democrats- and yourself- have no patience and no goddamn knowledge of history.

Well we all failed to mention how revenge presented itself to Japan when they invented the everything. Now we'd suffocate without them.

dfenstrate

Well said sir!