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(Some Guy)   Analysts presume that the 20-50 million estimated online poker players in the U.S. won't bother to vote tomorrow   (pokerpages.com) divider line 96
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2006-11-06 11:07:16 AM
Are there any politicians who are for online-poker?
 
2006-11-06 11:19:52 AM
They said the same thing about Howard Stern's million listeners after he switched from Republican to Democrat.
 
2006-11-06 02:30:48 PM
In my case they are right, I voted last week.
 
2006-11-06 02:30:51 PM
They're bluffing.
 
2006-11-06 02:31:30 PM
If voter turnout is a flop, we'll all be up the river.
 
2006-11-06 02:35:50 PM
Are there any politicians who are for online-poker?

The chips and cards clog up the intertubes, so, if I recall correctly, you need to gallop some horses through them to clean them out.
 
2006-11-06 02:35:53 PM
Uh...yea...considering the voting records on the subject, you're unlikely have an option of anyone that was against it. I know it's really hard for someone people to understand, but all issues aren't black and white party line things. In fact almost none of them are.
 
2006-11-06 02:35:56 PM
A vote for Democrats is a vote for your right to blow money in offshore-based gambling websites.

I can't believe the DNC isn't all over this one. This seems like the kind of thing they could really get behind.

Kind of like me and a pair of 3s, no chance at a flush.
 
2006-11-06 02:36:20 PM
Others see a political component to UIGEA`s passage, believing it was intended to buoy support amongst religious conservative voters for Frist, should he decide to run for president in 2008.
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More Christianist farking with American law by shoving their churchy-church values based upon a Magic Dude in the Sky and his Freaky Zombie Son.
Drink some more blood and eat some more farking flesh, but get out of politics.

/fark you, Frist.
//I don't gamble on the Internet. None of them.
 
2006-11-06 02:36:24 PM
With a few exceptions, no matter who wins, you lose.

/republicans suck
/democtats blow
/libertarians swallow
 
2006-11-06 02:37:41 PM
yomomma: Are there any politicians who are for online-poker?

It looks like Barney Frank.
 
2006-11-06 02:39:29 PM
Yay, freedom to spend the money you earn however you want -- oh, no. wait.

Why the hell isn't gambling legal, anyway?
 
2006-11-06 02:39:35 PM
SoxSweepAgain: More Christianist farking with American law by shoving their churchy-church values based upon a Magic Dude in the Sky and his Freaky Zombie Son.

Snicker...is this guy serious? Can anyone be THAT clueless?
 
2006-11-06 02:39:53 PM
jcaustin


Uh...yea...considering the voting records on the subject, you're unlikely have an option of anyone that was against it. I know it's really hard for someone people to understand, but all issues aren't black and white party line things. In fact almost none of them are.
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You won't get a voting record on this, because the Republifarks snuck it onto the Ports bill at the last minute.

Therefore, this obvious pandering to religious assfarks (along with eliminating competition for the on-shore casinos that Republifarks take so much money from) has no specific and trackable voting record.
 
2006-11-06 02:40:25 PM
why not have online voting? what could go wrong?
 
2006-11-06 02:40:41 PM
FTA: "I've been a loyal Republican for over 30 years, and I'm quitting the party I once loved," said Jim Henry, 55, who lives outside San Francisco. "Not because of the Mark Foley scandal or Middle East policy. But because the Republican Party wants to stop me from what I love to do: play poker over the Internet.".
Now that's what I call priorities.
 
2006-11-06 02:41:08 PM
serpent_sky: Why the hell isn't gambling legal, anyway?

It's running a casino that's illegal in some areas and not gambling. They don't want them cutting into the lottery tax.
 
2006-11-06 02:41:16 PM
serpent_sky
Why the hell isn't gambling legal, anyway?


Because the average American is a puritanical idiot.

Sad but true...
 
2006-11-06 02:41:26 PM
jcaustin


SoxSweepAgain: More Christianist farking with American law by shoving their churchy-church values based upon a Magic Dude in the Sky and his Freaky Zombie Son.

Snicker...is this guy serious? Can anyone be THAT clueless?

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You talkin' to me?
You disagree that there is a Christianist movement farking with our politics?

Then YOU are clueless (or, worse, support it).
 
2006-11-06 02:42:42 PM
SoxSweepAgain: You won't get a voting record on this, because the Republifarks snuck it onto the Ports bill at the last minute.

Bought into web site party rhetoric I see. That was not the first time it was before Congress.
 
2006-11-06 02:44:47 PM
SoxSweepAgain: You talkin' to me?
You disagree that there is a Christianist movement farking with our politics?

Then YOU are clueless (or, worse, support it).


Ah yes...the evil conspiracy! The Christians and aliens are out to get you! Run! Hide!

Some of you people crack me up. It's like a list of abnormal psychology case studies.
 
2006-11-06 02:47:35 PM
jcaustin


SoxSweepAgain: You won't get a voting record on this, because the Republifarks snuck it onto the Ports bill at the last minute.

Bought into web site party rhetoric I see. That was not the first time it was before Congress.
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No, I read the article, O Great Defender of the Myth.
 
2006-11-06 02:48:10 PM
And yes, Christianity is evil.
 
2006-11-06 02:48:18 PM
Keep your religion out of my government and your government out of my religion!
 
2006-11-06 02:49:19 PM
submitter: presume that the 20-50 million estimated online poker players

Really. Can't they get a better estimate than that? It's a 30 mill spread.

Anyway, they're lucky their bank accounts aren't being frozen. That's exactly what fundies want to do to people that gamble online.
 
2006-11-06 02:49:37 PM
And you call me a "case of abnormal psychology" yet you:

1) Believe in something for which there is zero proof
2) and causes miracles
3) and virgin births
4) and zombies rising from the dead

Hmmmm.
 
2006-11-06 02:49:48 PM
jcaustin

serpent_sky: Why the hell isn't gambling legal, anyway?

It's running a casino that's illegal in some areas and not gambling. They don't want them cutting into the lottery tax.


Well, bookies and betting on sports is illegal in most places, too, no? I was including that as well.

Having worked in a store that sells lotto, those people were nuts about it -- $350, $500, like it was NOTHING. They'd do lotto all week and go to the casinos in CT on the weekend. I suspect if there was casinos in NY, they'd just have done both. Are there no casino taxes that the government could reap benefits from?

I mean, if you legalized all gambling, prostitution, and drugs, and taxed them like normal businesses, there's a hell of a lot of revenue, and new streams of legal money and employment. It's so logical, the fact that these things remain illegal blow my mind.
 
2006-11-06 02:56:00 PM
SoxSweepAgain

And yes, Christianity is evil.


That's a bit much to say and doesn't help an argument on behalf of those of us who just want the Christians [and whoever else] to keep their faiths to themselves and out of the laws that govern our lives and freedoms.

I don't care what someone believes or does with their time; it would be hypocrtical for me to biatch and moan that their religion is "evil" or even "stupid" at them. I only care when it becomes more than their beliefs and their lives.

If gambling [which i couldn't care less about, beyond the freedom issue] was perfectly legal, anywhere, in any form, in no way would that change these people's lives or beliefs. Nobody would make them gamble, it would not be required that they do so. The two issues in no way even come together, in my eyes. SO for them to push for something to be banished makes no sense; it's them imposing their lives and beliefs on others who don't -- and don't want to -- share their beliefs. That's where I take issue.

But we have to be smart about it. Simply making attacks and calling names won't help. Hell, rational, well thought out arguments may not help, either, but at least it stands a better chance than yelling "evil!" at them, particularly under blanket statements that include the whole of the religion, including casuals and moderates.
 
2006-11-06 02:56:11 PM
poepsel: A vote for Democrats is a vote for your right to blow money in offshore-based gambling websites.

Put down the crackpipe, bud. Plenty of Democratic Senators and Representatives will be happy to send you a formletter telling you how they feel online poker is dangerous because it's unregulated and run by foreigners.

yomomma: Are there any politicians who are for online-poker?

Yes. Libertarian ones.
 
2006-11-06 02:56:22 PM
SoxSweepAgain

"Christianist"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 
2006-11-06 02:57:12 PM
Gah! I.. uh... meant to leave that all in bold... Damnit.
 
2006-11-06 02:57:22 PM
jcaustin

Sweet chocolate Christ, man. Read the post very you farking copied and pasted. I didn't see the word conspiracy anywhere. Where do you see it? I don't see an implied conspiracy, either. Don't put words into others' mouths just to make some imaginary point about conspiracy theorists.

Legislating morals, though, is a legitimate concern. Ever watch CSPAN? It's not spin--it's just straight up video of the Senate or House floor. There you will see, on more or less a daily basis, someone trying to legislate christian morals instead of leaving well enough alone. That's all he's pointing out. That's it. No conspiracy.

Sorry if I come off a bit rude, but I'm really tired of reading posts responding to made up points, then mocking the original poster for their "views."

This place is like some kind of Dadaist bumper car rally sometimes.
 
2006-11-06 02:57:43 PM
jcaustin:"Ah yes...the evil conspiracy! The Christians and aliens are out to get you! Run! Hide!"

You're living in a bubble if you think that Christians aren't actively involved in trying to make their religious views national law.

Exhibit A: Gay Marriage
Exhibit B: Stem Cell Research
Exhibit C: Abortion
 
2006-11-06 03:00:17 PM
serpent_sky: I mean, if you legalized all gambling, prostitution, and drugs, and taxed them like normal businesses, there's a hell of a lot of revenue, and new streams of legal money and employment. It's so logical, the fact that these things remain illegal blow my mind.

I dunno. I've been to Vegas and I sure as hell wouldn't want that around where I live. I do think the lottery is a major reason for banning other gambling. Their primary target is low income and there isn't that much money to go around. Higher income people generally have money sense and stick to a strict budget.
 
2006-11-06 03:01:15 PM
MoreCowbell!: You're living in a bubble if you think that Christians aren't actively involved in trying to make their religious views national law.

Thank you Mr political party talking points repeater guy. Now, back the subject...
 
2006-11-06 03:02:08 PM
MoreCowbell!

So this means the government can't make laws prohibiting these due to the 1st amendment? It would make sense that morality laws are unconstitutional due to the establishment clause.
 
2006-11-06 03:03:11 PM
As a brief addendum to the last bit I wrote, I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not against Christian morals, nor am I against laws dealing with morality if they fall within the bounds of the Constitution of the U.S. (to paraphrase: we are free to do as we wish until that freedom interferes with the freedom of others).
 
2006-11-06 03:05:10 PM
jcaustin:

I dunno. I've been to Vegas and I sure as hell wouldn't want that around where I live. I do think the lottery is a major reason for banning other gambling. Their primary target is low income and there isn't that much money to go around. Higher income people generally have money sense and stick to a strict budget.


I would want that where I live. Freedom! I'm so sick of a sanitized world. I would love a really adult city, with all the "vices" readily available, all of that. I'm sure there's room for everything; it's not like every corner of every town would become Vegas.

In my experience, the main gamblers on lotto were fairly well of elderly people. It was insane. They were the ones -- old money, retired, bored. They'd drop hundreds at a time. Some low income people, too, but they would do $5 here, $10 here. The real gamblers, the real money, came from people who had it, and had nothing better to do with it. But I haven't done a poll as to what the norm is anywhere else.
 
2006-11-06 03:05:14 PM
serpent_sky

I mean, if you legalized all gambling, prostitution, and drugs, and taxed them like normal businesses, there's a hell of a lot of revenue, and new streams of legal money and employment. It's so logical, the fact that these things remain illegal blow my mind.

Logic and politics are kind of like milk and vodka - they're fine on there own but just don't mix real well.
 
2006-11-06 03:12:32 PM
jcaustin: Now, back the subject...

...of legislating morality.

Oh wait, that's the subject he was talking about, wasn't it?
 
2006-11-06 03:12:36 PM
LOL voting. Your opinion doesn't matter. Especially in the Presidential elections. Bush won, but not because you voted for him. If you voted for Kerry, your vote doesn't matter. If you didn't vote for Kerry he wouldn't have won had he just gotten your vote. Your representatives in the Electoral College already know who they are voting for months before you go out and cast your vote. Stay home next election day, the same thing will happen no matter who you vote for.
 
2006-11-06 03:13:09 PM
serpent_sky: I would want that where I live. Freedom! I'm so sick of a sanitized world. I would love a really adult city, with all the "vices" readily available, all of that. I'm sure there's room for everything; it's not like every corner of every town would become Vegas.

In my experience, the main gamblers on lotto were fairly well of elderly people. It was insane. They were the ones -- old money, retired, bored. They'd drop hundreds at a time. Some low income people, too, but they would do $5 here, $10 here. The real gamblers, the real money, came from people who had it, and had nothing better to do with it. But I haven't done a poll as to what the norm is anywhere else.


Well, move to Vegas then. That's what the local standards thing is all about. People migrate to the environment they want. You might change your mind after being mugged the third time or have to clean puke off your car again, but everyone has their own tastes.

That must be your neighborhood. All I see is people that obviously can't afford it dropping hundreds on lottery tickets. In Vegas the big tourist casinos were pretty high end but there's some really nasty places once you get off the strip.
 
2006-11-06 03:13:50 PM
dwclou-

not true. In GA the electors are picked based on who wins the popular vote,so voting is very useful
 
2006-11-06 03:15:47 PM
Jektal

"Christianist"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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"Christianist" means "One who promotes a political agenda based upon what they see as Christian traditional values.

A Christian who keeps their silly paws to themselves and keeps their deity-worship properly ensconced in a pointy-roofed building is simply a Christian. No sweat off my ass.

A Christian attempting to Christianify government or our system of law is a Christianist.
 
2006-11-06 03:17:03 PM
MonkeyBoy666: ...of legislating morality.

Oh wait, that's the subject he was talking about, wasn't it?


Just continue to crack me up. Except for procedural things, ALL law is based on morality. Do the schools really suck so bad at teaching this stuff these days? I also find it funny the evil corporations aren't evil if they're taking people's money with gambling games.
 
2006-11-06 03:18:13 PM
First they came for the online gamblers, and I did not stand up....
 
2006-11-06 03:18:45 PM
Skinny23

That assumes the electronic ballot machine records your vote correctly.

drue.com
 
2006-11-06 03:20:20 PM
Vote for a democratic congress! Help restore the system of checks and balances that the Founding Fathers intended.

I voted democratic on the federal level, even though I'm traditionally a republican. The problem is that the repugs have lost their way. They are not conservatives despite claiming to be so. A real conservative would not stand for this type of big brother nannyism. Add in the war mongering, lies, scandals, cronyism, illegal surveillance of US citizens, and a total abandonment of fiscal responsibility, and there zero reason for anyone claiming to be conservative to support this bunch of thugs.

If you support your constitution, please consider voting for a democratic congress. Sbecause as one party controls all three branches of government, the abuses are going to continue to escalate. Having a repub whitehouse and democratic congress will restore the checks and balance system that is intended to be a safeguard against the type of abuses being demostrated now.
 
2006-11-06 03:21:22 PM
jcaustin:
Well, move to Vegas then. That's what the local standards thing is all about. People migrate to the environment they want. You might change your mind after being mugged the third time or have to clean puke off your car again, but everyone has their own tastes.


Alas, I despise the heat, so no Vegas for me. I stick to the East Coast, where at least we have nice Autumns and Winters.
 
2006-11-06 03:24:43 PM
jcaustin


MonkeyBoy666: ...of legislating morality.

Oh wait, that's the subject he was talking about, wasn't it?

Just continue to crack me up. Except for procedural things, ALL law is based on morality. Do the schools really suck so bad at teaching this stuff these days? I also find it funny the evil corporations aren't evil if they're taking people's money with gambling games.

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You're a Christianist tool.

"Morality" regarding VICTIMLESS crimes.

A gambler or smoker of pot or a client of hookers hurts nobody but potentially themselves (mayyyyybe).

But you Christianist tools fear that your god will smite you if you do not revent others from enjoying these liberties, should they choose to.
 
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