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(Some Guy)   U.S. Military loses a laptop computer containing, names, Social Security numbers, dates of birth, mailing addresses, telephone numbers, parents' names, high schools and their mothers' maiden names. Bah it's no big deal   (richmondtimesdispatch.com ) divider line
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2006-11-02 11:16:25 PM  
the military is every idealists little secret isn't it? its like "our system is the best" but it ALWAYS requires thousands of people give up their freedoms for it.

just a thought
 
2006-11-02 11:24:15 PM  
this is just a case of a stolen laptop. it's likely that they have no idea what they have, which is pretty much nothing.

big whoop
/eh?
 
2006-11-02 11:25:29 PM  
eh?
 
2006-11-02 11:29:26 PM  
Chiggity Chza: eh?


Yeah...Eh.
 
2006-11-02 11:32:51 PM  
nukeim

What do you suppose?
 
2006-11-02 11:36:06 PM  
TheRealist: this is just a case of a stolen laptop. it's likely that they have no idea what they have, which is pretty much nothing.

and i assume that the data is also probably encrypted to some degree so unless they 1) know what that have other than just thinking they have a laptop like you said and b) have some decient equipment or knowlage to break the encryption its not going to do them much good
 
2006-11-02 11:41:21 PM  
Chiggity Chza: What do you suppose?


A lot of things. Like beer is good, I like pizza, and Uma Thurman should be my maid. But I hardly thing any of that is relevant to this topic.
 
2006-11-02 11:42:50 PM  
BS free pron!

So it's not an issue if some dumbass sells it on ebay to some farker and well, this farker is a farker and knows his ass from a whole in the ground..? Assuming a farker would be capable of such a thing If I divide a 2 part proton by a negative charged electron and mulitply by pie what color would your momma's thong be?

/mmmm beer
 
2006-11-02 11:44:55 PM  
Chiggity Chza
That is some damn fine posting if I do say so myself

/
 
2006-11-02 11:56:04 PM  
Has anyone seen Gomer Pyle lately?
 
2006-11-03 12:38:42 AM  
1) Assuming the data is encrypted properly, the data should be safe. That said...

2) If the data was only on there to "test some computer applications" then they should have used dummy data rather than real data as a precaution.
 
2006-11-03 12:46:15 AM  
maRox: Has anyone seen Gomer Pyle lately?


I heard he got married to Jim Neighbors.
 
2006-11-03 12:48:06 AM  
Yea there is something fishy about this. I think the shiat is fair game with basic knowledge. How does this laptop get stolen from teh U.S. Military..? If it is not safe, then how safe can the data be?
 
2006-11-03 01:33:51 AM  
"But security features make it unlikely that a person without an access card and sophisticated passwords will be able to access the information"


12345
 
2006-11-03 01:38:04 AM  
If this laptop was not running some file-system level type of encryption such as PointSec then I'd be very surprised. Assuming the password isn't 12345 or something equally as stupid, the data is safe.

/off to change the combination on my luggage
 
2006-11-03 01:38:58 AM  
Why wont these people use truecrypt for god sake it's free
 
2006-11-03 01:43:49 AM  
Uma Thurman is much more interesting than this thread.
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2006-11-03 01:45:04 AM  
Different day, different group losing that laptop containing everything about yourself.

/Why is there always a laptop containing all this info?
 
2006-11-03 01:50:43 AM  
I like how the submitted headline makes no explanation whatsoever of whose information was stolen.
 
2006-11-03 01:52:15 AM  
John Kerry needs to apologize for this as well.
 
2006-11-03 01:53:03 AM  
Trickle-down stupidity.
 
2006-11-03 01:54:29 AM  
whose mother's maiden names, the high school's?
 
2006-11-03 01:54:45 AM  
2006-11-03 01:45:04 AM P Squared


/Why is there always a laptop containing all this info?

Smoke signals are notoriously difficult to encrypt.
 
2006-11-03 01:55:23 AM  
Most DoD computers these days use PKI cards to log-on. Unless the required certificates were installed on the computer from an individual's ID card (while connected to a DoD network, no less), it would be next to impossible to log on, let alone access data that is probably read/write/access-protected to only the primary user of that computer.

I'd bet that its safe to assume whoever stole it has absolutely no idea about how to circumvent the security systems installed, and will probably end up wiping the drive if they want to use the computer at all.
 
2006-11-03 01:56:39 AM  
What the fark has been going on lately? Every tom, dick, and harry from business to the military is losing classified shiate. One laptop here, a hard disk there, a flash drive there. Have people just become really retarded recently? Or has this kind of thing been going on a long time and it's only now just being reported? Who would like to compile a list of all these bumbling mishaps?
 
2006-11-03 01:57:56 AM  
I'm amazed that farkers have posted the "if it's encrypted it's fine". You are a moron. There is no such thing as safe data. You fail teh interwebs. If I save something that aliens from the future encrypt, some 14 year old kid in Iowa will crack it by Monday. Tards.
 
2006-11-03 02:06:22 AM  
boomaze

I'm amazed that farkers have posted the "if it's encrypted it's fine". You are a moron. There is no such thing as safe data. You fail teh interwebs. If I save something that aliens from the future encrypt, some 14 year old kid in Iowa will crack it by Monday. Tards.


TEll us what you really think...please, don't hold back.

/the 'tards' closer really sealed my lol'ing
 
2006-11-03 02:08:54 AM  
serutan wins. Someone sponsor him for totalfark.
 
2006-11-03 02:09:36 AM  
Ok thats it, from now on all laptops have gps and thermite on the HDD.
 
2006-11-03 02:10:44 AM  
Can you imagine being the guy who lost that laptop, reporting to the CG?

"well, sir, you may want to sit down for this. Now, don't get upset or anything, but I might have kinda lost that laptop computer... you know, the one that has all the personal information including home of record, social security numbers, mailing address, mother's maiden name, educational records, you know, all the incidental stuff... of everybody in the DoD. Now, I'm really sorry about that, but at least it's not like it's classified material, right? It could be worse... somehow..."


We recently got a brief which consisted of... "Look, assholes, don't tell Sergeants what to do. And on a lighter note, all of your SSNs have all been compromised. But don't tell Sergeants what to do."

Seriously.
 
2006-11-03 02:11:02 AM  
If it's encrypted it's probably fine. I mean seriosuly. What's a more likely scenario: a person steals a laptop for monatary gains and has no idea how to crack the files or... a malacious group of people steal the laptop, have the knowledge and capability to crack it and want info on... potential recruits?
 
2006-11-03 02:13:30 AM  
skinink

Actually, from the looks of it - it would appear that John Kerry was right!
 
2006-11-03 02:37:36 AM  
SHA256, PCI Compliant, hozers.
 
2006-11-03 02:41:55 AM  
Assuming the data is encrypted properly, the data should be safe. That said...

Why would you assume that? AFAIK, no branch of the military encrypts unclassified data on the hard drives of *any* computers.

That said, I think your assumption is probably wrong.
 
2006-11-03 02:42:34 AM  
The following is a message from a Republican Congressman:

Hell, what's the big deal? I lose two of these a week and no one cares. It's gotten so bad that I make sure to backup all my kiddie porn and phone numbers of male pages to my zip drive every night before I go to bed hugging my copy of the NAMBLA newsletter.


This message paid for by the commitee to re-elect Dumbshiat McMolesterpants R-Ohio.
 
2006-11-03 03:24:54 AM  
TIA

Total Information Awareness

That's what it's called.

Google is your friend.
 
2006-11-03 03:30:38 AM  
This went down almost a year ago. Where were your snarky comments when they would actually have been timely and relevant?
 
2006-11-03 03:35:58 AM  
Excuse me: This went down on a much larger scale last year, with one of the VA's computers, containing data on a vastly greater number of servicemembers. Where was your snark then?
 
2006-11-03 04:30:59 AM  
-It's not News, it's SNARK.com...
 
2006-11-03 04:48:39 AM  
You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide, right? Right???
 
2006-11-03 05:52:44 AM  
I just hope santa never loses his or else we're screwed
 
2006-11-03 06:13:26 AM  
No, it most likely was not encrypted
there is quite a bit of low-level secret info not encrypted
 
2006-11-03 06:47:21 AM  
serutin -- anymore Uma to share??
 
2006-11-03 06:54:28 AM  
serutan: Uma Thurman is much more interesting than this thread.

The half empty Tsingtao liter on my coffee table is much more interesting than this thread...which makes Uma fascinating in comparison.
 
2006-11-03 07:22:10 AM  
Whateva_I_DO_WHAT_I_WANT: No, it most likely was not encrypted
there is quite a bit of low-level secret info not encrypted



All the "specialty" military laptops we've done in the past few years had PKI smart card access hardware of some sort. The test setup SW/BIOS wouldn't boot without the card and the password, the OS wouldn't log you in etc, and there was an encrypted partition. If you pulled the card the machine logged you off, theoretically it was on a lanyard so you couldn't walk away and leave it logged in haha.

What this guy had is anyone's guess tho, since it wasn't exactly classified stuff. You'd hope that they'd treat private data with some care but who knows.
 
2006-11-03 07:35:29 AM  
erewhon:
All the "specialty" military laptops we've done in the past few years had PKI smart card access hardware of some sort. The test setup SW/BIOS wouldn't boot without the card and the password, the OS wouldn't log you in etc, and there was an encrypted partition. If you pulled the card the machine logged you off, theoretically it was on a lanyard so you couldn't walk away and leave it logged in haha.

What this guy had is anyone's guess tho, since it wasn't exactly classified stuff. You'd hope that they'd treat private data with some care but who knows.


All DOD laptops are now supposed to use encryption. Using Microsoft's EFS if nothing else, and there are 2 recommended commercial encryption products that agencies can buy. So hopefully he was up to speed on that. But no guarantees.
 
2006-11-03 07:38:22 AM  
All the "secure login"s in the world are not going to help you if .... are you ready? You take the HDD out of the machine, drop it into another machine, and use it as a data drive, not the boot drive. Of course this wont circumvent encryption, but if you use the hard drive on a box for which you ARE the admin, you can access all of the non-encrypted files easily.

Log-in protections are no good if you lose control of the entire machine. (ie it is stolen or authorities seize it)
 
2006-11-03 07:45:27 AM  
wonder how many FARK passwords have fallen into the wrong hands....think of the havoc that will be wreaked by interlopers posting ridiculous comments under an unsuspecting person's user name.....
/ doesn't need any help posting ridiculous comments...
 
2006-11-03 07:47:54 AM  
2006-11-03 03:35:58 AM Plug_Nickel

That was earlier this year, actually. My husband was one of the ones who got the infamous letter.

The military is great at having their laptops stolen. *applauds*
 
2006-11-03 07:50:24 AM  
But security features make it unlikely that a person without an access card and sophisticated passwords will be able to access the information, said Paul Kotakis, spokesman for the U.S. Army Cadet Command.

Aaahahahahahahaha!!!
 
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