gregly

Obviously you hate God and you are a very sad person. Its people like you that equate abortion with war as if they are the same thing, God knows it isn't. You suck. I wish you would think about what you are saying and how hurtful it is to those that love and worship God. Sure there are some good "atheists", but most of them would rather hang out with Devil Worshippers than true believers and followers of the real God. When people attack us, we should always attack them back and kill them. They hate us for our Freedom and if we don't stop them now, we will all be worshipping Allah and speaking arab in a few short years. So, please let the thinking people do the Lord's work and you can go try to save some trees or otters. Or whatever the hell it is that you Libtards do with your time.

bjforme
Well, first of all, someone has to stand up to nonsense like, "We've far exceeded pre-war levels torture and death.", which flies in the face of reality. The level of self-delusion necessary to make such a statement is truly scary.

Self-delusion? Try statistical evidence and the opinions of informed experts.

Look, if you want to stand up to those studies, be my guest. But you're going to need to do a lot more than just call people names who quote them in order to do that. What are the specific flaws in the methodology those studies used?

And yeah; we should leave. The Catch-22 is that we can't until the Iraqis can defend their own government.

Which will not be possible until there's one government that most citizens can agree to live with. Which does not appear to be anywhere close to happening.

The guys they've got nowadays are tough (for the most part).

Unfortunately, they're also the ones refusing to do anything about the people lobbing bombs at us. Those who aren't lobbing bombs at us themselves.

There's nothing fancy about it. We prop up the good guys, beat down the bad guys, and get the hell out of the way at the first opportunity.

Who are the good guys? Who are the bad guys? That's the thing about a guerrilla war -- you don't really know!

sunny ray.....trollerific as always.

gregly

that would be bad, right?

This thread has so many trolls. I think I'm seeing some signs of meta-trolling, even.

I am extremely disappointed that no troll has posted the lyrics to Imagine in their entirety.

For shame, farkers, for shame.

- democracy for the first time ever in Iraq, which means:

isn't that like saying the fish was better off because it was breathing air for the first time ever?

/why do we think democracy is a good/natural thing for middle east?
//seriously..

Executive Monkey: Hey, look, there's a war in the Middle East...and hey, over there our government is behaving incompetently...such things are so rare that they must surely be the herald of the apocalypse.

Awesome.

Sunny Ray

gregly

Obviously you hate God Allah and you are a very sad person. Its people like you that equate abortion Islam with war as if they are the same thing, God Allah knows it isn't. You suck. I wish you would think about what you are saying and how hurtful it is to those that love and worship God Allah. Sure there are some good "atheists Christians", but most of them would rather hang out with Devil Worshippers Jews than true believers and followers of the real God Allah. When people attack us, we should always attack them back and kill them. They hate us for our Freedom beliefs and if we don't stop them now, we will all be worshiping Allah Jesus and speaking arab English in a few short years. So, please let the thinking people do the Lord's Allah's work and you can go try to save some trees or otters buildings or schools.


/holds a mirror up to Sunny Ray
//What do you see?
///A Christian or a Muslim?
///Two sides of the same coin

Why do you think its bad? Israel seems to work ok with it, unless your Palestinian.

Unless my Palestinian what?

Oh, wait. "You're".
OK.
So then you are saying that Israel DOESN'T work OK with it, since Palestinians, both Muslim and Christian, don't seem to be getting such a good deal.

Democracy in Iraq? What?!

You CAN'T have democracy in your country when you are militarily occupied by the most powerful Army in the world.

What exactly does the "democratic" Iraqi government control? Their exports? Imports? Security? Public health care? Taxation?

They control NOTHING. The USA, as the occupying power, controls the borders, the trade, and the daily public relations. The PEOPLE, who supposedly voted in the cabinet (haha) control NOTHING, not even their own security. Every day they put their lives at risk just going frickin SHOPPING.

It's just all so simple and Dr. Seussian to say "well we brought them democracy". "B-b-but they had blue ink on their fingers!"

You've brought them death, destruction and misery. You've "fought the terrorists there so you don't have to fight them at home". Well unfortunately, those currently being slaughtered and tortured in Iraq probably don't quite see it exactly the same way... Go figure.

I just hope the next Prez can say, "Sorry world, Bush was a colossal fark-up, we're going to try and fix the mistakes he made."

Sunny Ray: "When people attack us, we should always attack them back and kill them."

I agree. But Jesus didn't. He said that you should turn the other cheek.

That's why I hate Jesus.

And no one mentioned:

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia...

The comment count on this article should be zero, it is just to unbeliveably(sp?) stupid to say anything about.

/Trying to convince the wife to buy some guns
//And have teh buttsecks

Sunny Ray

Bravo, bravo! A++++ WOULD READ TROLL AGAIN

Sunny Ray


SoxSweepAgain

I'm thinking that you need to spend some time over in the bong thread. Chill dude. Despite the praying and worshipping by the wacko Chrisitians the sun came up today and you probably had ample food to eat. To wish death upon people is just wrong. Maybe prayer would help you.

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Shove your prayers (which is nothing more than laughably muttering to yourself) up your corrupted Christian ass, cocksucker.

I think I'll go shiat on a Bible.

Right-wing Christian people need to all die in a fire.

You SUCK.

Man, won't all these fundy crazy christians be surprised when they die and are met at the pearly gates by none other than Ganesh....

/Ganesh, remover of obstacles
//My god has a trunk and multiple arms!

Also, would you "end times" believers go ahead and get the rapture over with, so that the rest of us can get on with our lives without your interference?

/Buh bye, now
//Don't let heaven's gate hit you in the ass on the way out...

SoxSweepAgain: Shove your prayers (which is nothing more than laughably muttering to yourself) up your corrupted Christian ass, cocksucker.

I think I'll go shiat on a Bible.

Even now I am praying the eternal light of Christ will open your heart to your fellow man.

Go in peace, my son.

It's amazing how much the love and word of God/Allah can inspire such horrible violence and suffering.

When will the "soldiers of God/Allah" realize that the hell of war is not holy at all. When will they finally see that their struggle is not really to benefit God/Allah, so much as to benefit their own social/economical heads of state, culture and religion. When will the soldiers of religion realize that the engagement of loving, charitable and nurturing activites is the real work of the divine, whilst also finding that the activities of killing, torture and destruction are the tools of the devil.

ski_adk115: When will the "soldiers of God/Allah" realize that the hell of war is not holy at all. When will they finally see that their struggle is not really to benefit God/Allah, so much as to benefit their own social/economical heads of state, culture and religion. When will the soldiers of religion realize that the engagement of loving, charitable and nurturing activites is the real work of the divine, whilst also finding that the activities of killing, torture and destruction are the tools of the devil.

I think even absent the development of religion, we'd still fight wars. It's more about human nature than anything else.

Fully one quarter of Americans describe themselves as Evangelical Christians, and their support for the president remains rock solid.

Aw, hell. We don't need another crusade, people. Read some history. The last couple didn't end up working so well. Now that the same general area of the world is more populous and has rocket launchers you'd have even more problems.

Um...come back to me kiddies, that's right gather round.

The scary part people is that the asshat POTUS believes this shiat too.

He also has the power to declare war, wage war, and unleash nukes.

I hope all you morans who were so flippin' worried about gay marriage DIAF...a big NUkuleer one.

Another follower, teacher Patrick Hewitt, said the pastor will shortly post instructions, on his website on how parishioners should cast their ballots for the mid-term elections. "I'm going to vote the way he tells me," he said.

Sounds like someone needs to have their tax-exempt status revoked. Oh, wait, there are thousands of conservative churches who do this in broad daylight every week, but the IRS investigates... one liberal church based on a single sermon.

This is disgusting. The IRS either needs to investigate the conservative churches and bust them for electioneering, or all churches should have their tax exempt status revoked (particularly when you have a "pastor" making $1 million yearly...).

Sunny Ray: Ergo, any information that I would submit to you would be summarily dismissed by you and your elk

Yeah, those farking elk with their stupid antlers are always dismissing information. Fark them!

You people are losing the point.

In a discussion with a religious guy at work. i asked him if he thought the end days were here and if he thought he would see the "second coming", of course he said yes.

I asked if he knew anyone who was in the ground now who had thought the same...of course he said yes.

As I told him, I rest my case.


/people need to take a high school algebra I class and wake up.

Sunny Ray: I would agree legally we are not deemed a Christian Nation, however the reality is we are a Christian Nation.

Legally is the only sense that counts. Last time I checked, we had something called a "constitution" that was designed to protect the minority from the whims of the majority.

Sunny Ray: If one is listening to Devil Music (ie. most of what passes for rock n' roll these days) on their iPod, then that individual will probably be doomed to eternity in a Fiery Hell.

You've gotta be farking kidding me.

PoopStain


SoxSweepAgain: Shove your prayers (which is nothing more than laughably muttering to yourself) up your corrupted Christian ass, cocksucker.

I think I'll go shiat on a Bible.

Even now I am praying the eternal light of Christ will open your heart to your fellow man.

Go in peace, my son.
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The "eternal light of christ"???

You people are really, really creepy. No difference between believing that shiat and believing in the Tooth Fairy's "eternal light."

Go in peace, Christian dipshiat. Eat some of Crazy Jeboo's flesh and drink a little of the filthy zombie's blood while you're at it.

Sunny Ray: They hate us for our Freedom and if we don't stop them now, we will all be worshiping Allah and speaking Arab in a few short years.

Alright Sunny Ray, I'm watching you. You seem just a little bit too over the top to be for real. I've put you in my Farky "suspected trolls" category for now, but if I see any unfundy-like posts from you in the future, you're busted.

Once again I will pray for you farkers out there. May God instill in your hearts the ability to be more tolerant of others beliefs.

siener, Riche

Before everyone reads The God Delusion, I recommend that they read:




He warns against the plague of regularly recurring fiction. I wonder what he thinks of the Harry Potter books, and the X-Men comics and movies? Some quotes from the Grand Arbiter of Truth:

"The cult of The X-Files has been defended as harmless because it is, after all, only fiction. On the face of it, that is a fair defence. But regularly recurring fiction - soap operas, cop series and the like - are legitmately criticized if, week after week, they systematically present a one-sided view of the world. The X-Files is a television series in which, every week, two FBI agents face a mystery. One of the two, Scully, favours arational, scientific explanation; the other agent, Mulder, goes for an explanation which is either supernatural or, at very least, glorifies the inexplicable. The problem with The X-Files is that routinely, relentlessly, the supernatural explanation, or at least the Mulder end of the spectrum, usually turns out to be the answer. I'm told that, in recent episodes, even the sceptical agent Scully is starting to have her confidence shaken, and no wonder.

But isn't it just harmless fiction, then? No, I think the defence rings hollow. Imagine a television series in which two police officers solve a crime each week. Every week there is one black suspect and one white suspect. One of the two detectives is always towards the black suspect, the other biased towards the white. And, week after week, the black suspect turns out to have done it. So, what's wrong with that? After all, it's only fiction! Shocking as it is, I believe the analogy to be a completely fair one. I am not saying that supernaturalist propaganda is as dangerous or unpleasant as racist propaganda. But The X-Files systematically purveys an anti-rational view of the world which, by virtue of its recurrent persistence, is insidious."

-pg 28

And from the same book, the Grand Arbiter of Truth tries to shatter a six-year-old girl's belief in Father Christmas:

"I remember once trying gently to amuse a six-year-old child at Christmas time by reckoning up with her how long it would take Father Christmas to go down all the chimneys in the world. If the average chimney is 20 feet long and there are, say, 100 million houses with children, how fast, I wondered aloud, would he have to whizz down each chimney in order to finish the job by dawn on Christmas Day? He'd hardly have time to tiptoe noiselessly into each child's bedroom, would he, since he'd necessarily be breaking the sound barrier? She saw the point and realized that there was a problem, but it didn't worry her in the least. She dropped the subject without pursuing it. The obvious possibility that her parents had been telling falsehoods never seemed to cross her mind. She wouldn't have put it in these words but the implication was that, if the laws of physics rendered Father Christmas's feat impossible, so much the worse for the laws of physics. It was enough that her parents had told her he went down all the chimneys during the few hours of Christmas Eve. It must be so because Mummy and Daddy said it was."

-pg 141

In all fairness, though, I'd say the professor won that debate. What a CRACKPOT! HaHaHaHa!

siener, Riche:

Maybe they should begin with something a little lighter. Maybe a commentary by the man.

Dawkins describes how evolution is a predictive science:

Contrary to what is sometimes alleged, evolution is a predictive science. If you pick any hitherto unstudied species and subject it to minute scrutiny, any evolutionist will confidently predict that each individual will be observed to do everything in its power, in the particular way of the species - plant, herbivore, carnivore, nectivore or whatever it is - to survive and propagate the DNA that rides inside it."

Although not an evolutionist, I'm confident of the following predictions: In addition to doing everything in their power to survive and propagate, I predict that ONE DAY EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL DIE. And also, on that very day, THE SUN WILL RISE IN THE EAST. Remember, you heard it here first.

CRACKPOT! HaHaHaHa!

It is a shame everyone isn't catholic; we wouldn't be having these problems.

/Catholic
//non-believers are just jealous

Cheeseburger

Oh Noes! The X-Files opresses Atheists!

I think this is a good time to bring up that in almost every episode of Scooby Doo, the supernatural occurence turns out to have a perfectly mundane cause. GASP!

SoxSweepAgain: The "eternal light of christ"???

You people are really, really creepy. No difference between believing that shiat and believing in the Tooth Fairy's "eternal light."

Go in peace, Christian dipshiat.

I WILL go in peace. And when you find yourself a little lighter of step tomorrow, or the next day, or next week, know that my prayers have been answered and God is helping you along.

Atomic_Cockroach:

I think this is a good time to bring up that in almost every episode of Scooby Doo, the supernatural occurence turns out to have a perfectly mundane cause.

It's that 'almost' that keeps the Grand Arbiter up at night.

Fully one quarter of Americans describe themselves as Evangelical Christians, and their support for the president remains rock solid.

UNBELIEVABLE!

Gos needs money

"They condoled with him and comforted him for all the evil which the LORD had brought upon him; and each one gave him a piece of money and a gold ring." (Job 42:11 NAB)

Burn Children

Later on God tested Abraham's faith and obedience. "Abraham!" God called." Yes," he replied. "Here I am." "Take your son, your only son - yes, Isaac, whom you love so much - and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you." (Genesis 22:1-2 NLT)

Don't Think

Trust in the LORD with all your heart, on your own intelligence rely not. (Proverbs 3:5 NAB)

Even now I am praying the eternal light of Christ will open your heart to your fellow man.

Go in peace, my son.

Can anyone say, "Holier than thou"?

...

I thought so.

Oh man,

After hearing all of this it makes me wonder if we should be classified with the chimps. Religion is a waste of time. Jesus Christ in my opinion, was the first friendly hippie on Earth. All he wanted was for everybody to respect each other and love each other. Throughout the centuries and millenia, that message has been perverted. If you want to be religious, then go back to his original message (if it can be found), and start all over. But in my humblest opinion I quote Jesse Ventura (Former Governer of Minnesota):
"Religion is a crutch for the weak-minded"

/had enough of Bushy
//had enough of fundies
///the world is going to end when our magnetic field fades away.

Does this article make anyone else think of Nehemiah Scudder?

Thanks for the link, czarangelus.

From
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Luther_on_Jews.html:

"Did I not tell you earlier that a Jew is such a noble, precious jewel that God and all the angels dance when he farts?"

2006-10-30 09:30:38 AM The Icelander

Excellent post.

Look, it's really quite simple you nitwits...

7 AM, July 5th, 1998 = X-Day. The end. Finis.

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