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(Scotsman)   The war in Iraq is not a disaster, but the beginning of the fulfilment of biblical prophecies that culminate, possibly very soon, in a mighty struggle between good and evil at Armageddon. Here comes the science   (news.scotsman.com ) divider line
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2006-10-30 08:21:50 AM  
www.culturefreak.com

"Brothers and sisters, we're in the beginning stages of...wait for it...End Times, biatches!
 
2006-10-30 08:22:17 AM  
Drakuun


Not to mention, according to the same,
Israel will have -NO- allies during the battle of Armageddon. Including the USA.

No doubt thanks to the Liberals getting back in power.
 
2006-10-30 08:22:34 AM  
Tatsuma
I see you're one of those who didn't realize that America is not Red and Blue, but Purple all over?

I see you've never lived in Montana.
 
2006-10-30 08:24:28 AM  
These people can't even read their own holy book. Jesus was the ultimate pacifist, not a war monger. There is just no excuse for a Christian being "pro-war".

And some people are too ignorant to understand their "own holy book." The Jesus you see in the NT is a lie based on a fabrication. The original myth has been fully changed since its inception: the character Jesus' words and deeds were edited specifically to soften his language and make him more appealing.

Even the most conservative Christian scholars must admit that a good portion of the NT is entirely apocryphal. Genius really...with all the lies and contradictions, it makes it impossible for a rational thinker to have a complete understanding of the characters, leaving them to heavily rely on Church administrators.

Because...

But none of this can shake the devotion of Pastor Hagee's flock, whose hefty donations have given him a reported personal income in excess of a million dollars a year.

...that's what it's REALLY all about. Now you tell me, would either Original Jesus or Pussy Jesus find this type of personal wealth acceptable? This goes for the Pastor Hagees of the world and those who claim to follow the teachings of (whatever) Christ.

Yeah, thought so.
 
2006-10-30 08:26:49 AM  
Drakuun
They don't even pay attention to their own
scripture.


They missed the rather important parts about turning the other cheek and loving your enemy. Clearly they're quite selective in what parts of their own holy book they listen to.

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2006-10-30 08:28:26 AM  
sevenpointsixtwo
Because...

But none of this can shake the devotion of Pastor Hagee's flock, whose hefty donations have given him a reported personal income in excess of a million dollars a year.

...that's what it's REALLY all about. Now you tell me, would either Original Jesus or Pussy Jesus find this type of personal wealth acceptable?


To be fair, with modern industrial manufacturing techniques, I guess we can make some pretty big needle eyes these days.
 
2006-10-30 08:29:36 AM  
Mitch J - "Another follower, teacher Patrick Hewitt, said the pastor will shortly post instructions, on his website on how parishioners should cast their ballots for the mid-term elections. "I'm going to vote the way he tells me," he said."

Ok, so if / when this happens, what evidence needs to be gathered so that this asshat forfeits his tax-exempt status? Or should we be proactive?
 
2006-10-30 08:34:13 AM  
Cornerstone Church and Hagy are the 21st Century's answer to Jim Bakker.

Assholes and narrow-minded bigots, all.

/Jesus, save us from your followers.
 
2006-10-30 08:34:22 AM  
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Everyone, please listen to Riche and read:
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2006-10-30 08:37:48 AM  
Iraq is only a "disaster" if you listen obediently to the mainstream media and think as you're told you, you cute little drones.

Fight terrorism - don't vote for Democrats.
 
2006-10-30 08:38:55 AM  
See, good uses waterboards to torture people while bad uses power tools.
 
2006-10-30 08:39:32 AM  
bjforme: Iraq is only a "disaster" if you listen obediently to the mainstream media and think as you're told you, you cute little drones.

www.commondreams.org
 
2006-10-30 08:40:17 AM  
What's more Christian than calling for the nuclear annihilation of your enemies?

What could be more Christian than murder? Torture. They love torture. And working to bring about Armageddon. Torture and death of all humans. They love that stuff. They're just dying- or rather, they're just KILLING to see that day come about.

A religion of mass murder and torture, seeking human extinction as the ultimate GOAL, and using ritual cannibalism and vampirism in their "communion." I really don't think a religion could possibly be more profane.

Imagine no religion
 
2006-10-30 08:40:21 AM  
bjforme: Iraq is only a "disaster" if you listen obediently to the mainstream media and think as you're told you, you cute little drones.

Sorry, found the one I really wanted.

www.kirkbytimes.co.uk
 
2006-10-30 08:40:52 AM  
Wow, Javacrucian, who'd a thunk that an Emmy could be so powerful?
 
2006-10-30 08:41:05 AM  
Democrats and their stupid policies create the Terrorists, George Bush and the Republicans kill the Terrorists. Vote Republican.
 
2006-10-30 08:42:28 AM  
Tat, got any links on Luther being anti-semitic I can read up on?
 
2006-10-30 08:42:43 AM  
czarangelus, I could show my own cutesy little signs, but I think I'll leave you to your ignorance 'cause you're just so adorable when you're brainwashed!
 
2006-10-30 08:43:57 AM  
Even the most conservative Christian scholars must admit that a good portion of the NT is entirely apocryphal. Genius really...with all the lies and contradictions, it makes it impossible for a rational thinker to have a complete understanding of the characters, leaving them to heavily rely on Church administrators.

Are you even remotely serious? Have you even read what conservative Christian scholars have written?

This is about the same as "Most biologists now recognize that evolution isn't true and mostly made up by atheists."
 
2006-10-30 08:45:12 AM  
See this is why I'm in the camp with Dionysus.

Peace, loving, music, and booze.

Everyone could use an increase in any one of those catagorys and I think the world would be a better place.
 
2006-10-30 08:46:32 AM  
bjforme: czarangelus, I could show my own cutesy little signs, but I think I'll leave you to your ignorance 'cause you're just so adorable when you're brainwashed!

You could be there 50 years and there'd still be car bombings, homemade missiles, and explosions in the streets. If you can't crush Iraq in 4 years, you can't win ever.

StatJunkie: Tat, got any links on Luther being anti-semitic I can read up on?

The Jews and their Lies Martin Luther (1543)
 
2006-10-30 08:47:14 AM  
"Fully one quarter of Americans describe themselves as Evangelical Christians, and their support for the president remains rock solid."

What? No one has questioned those stats yet?

/yous guys is slakin'
 
2006-10-30 08:48:27 AM  
Iraq is only a "disaster" if you listen obediently to the mainstream media and think as you're told you, you cute little drones.

Fight terrorism - don't vote for Democrats.


Please, please, please tell me in what ways Iraq is NOT a disaster, using your own words and 0 talking points. Is it because the US intelligence committiee unanimously agrees that we've created more terrorists in Iraq? Or maybe it's the trillion dollar price tag with no clear progress in three years.
 
2006-10-30 08:48:45 AM  
frrrp Wow, that was an excellent example of just what I'm talking about - mindless drones who repeat what the talking box tells you to say, without the benefit of actual personal experience or anything approaching some sort of reason. Perfect - thanks!
 
2006-10-30 08:50:59 AM  
bjforme: frrrp Wow, that was an excellent example of just what I'm talking about - mindless drones who repeat what the talking box tells you to say, without the benefit of actual personal experience or anything approaching some sort of reason. Perfect - thanks!

The grand irony here is that bjforme is exactly what he's accusing everyone else on this thread of being - brainwashed and completely misinformed. You'd better damn well believe this armchair warrior has never served in Iraq... the vast majority of US troops hate it in Iraq and don't think we belong there.

Classic projection.
 
2006-10-30 08:51:27 AM  
SteakMan They won't question them because the "stats" reinforce their prejudices. Notice, however, that when I asserted that Iraq isn't the failure that their talking boxes have told them to believe it is, you get drones like Lord_Baull piping up to biatch about my lack of "talking points".

/repeat after me, obiendient CCN slaves - "Duh."
 
2006-10-30 08:52:39 AM  
"You'd better damn well believe this armchair warrior has never served in Iraq"

You sure about that? You do know that the Internet doesn't just exist on your computer there next to your big box of powdered donuts, yes?

/have another one
 
2006-10-30 08:53:28 AM  
bjforme

frrrp Wow, that was an excellent example of just what I'm talking about - mindless drones who repeat what the talking box tells you to say, without the benefit of actual personal experience or anything approaching some sort of reason. Perfect - thanks!

So you're on Fark right from the front lines of Iraq?

Neat.
 
2006-10-30 08:54:39 AM  

Democrats and their stupid policies create the Terrorists, George Bush and the Republicans kill the Terrorists. Vote Republican.


Time for a little quiz. Which party gave the Taliban weapons and guerrilla training?
Which party did the same for Saddam Hussien?
Which party was in power when the US intelligence community unanimously agreed that Iraq has created more terrorists worldwide?
Which party spent their administration keeping North Korea in check (read: no nukes)? Now which party has spent their administration ignoring North Korea until they became unignorable (read: has nukes)?
 
2006-10-30 08:56:01 AM  
sometimes i pray for your knees. While I am on my knees, praying.
 
2006-10-30 08:56:44 AM  
I really hope you're not in Iraq, bjforme ... I'd hate to think I was actually arguing with a terrorist.
 
2006-10-30 08:57:34 AM  
you get drones like Lord_Baull piping up to biatch about my lack of "talking points".

Brush up on reading comprehension. I asked you to tell me how Iraq is not a disaster WITHOUT GOP talking points. Still waiting, BTW.
 
2006-10-30 08:59:06 AM  
superdolfan1
The exact same statement can be said by the believers about the non-believers. Reason, evidence, and logic are all relative. What you may perceive as evidence and logical may differ from what someone else perceives.

Logic is not relative except to the insane.
 
2006-10-30 09:00:06 AM  
"Please, please, please tell me in what ways Iraq is NOT a disaster"

Well okey dokey, there, bright star:

- democracy for the first time ever in Iraq, which means:
- moderates in that country have a voice in their government for the first time in Middle Eastern political history
- ...just stop for a minute and try to think about what that means for the long-term stability of the region, esp. as their oil money starts to dry up

- Saddam's ass is in jail, which means:
- the UN can finally quit killing children with sanctions
- Europe can't sell quite so many guns there anymore - sorry, kids!

Of course, I'm sure you don't really care about the "killing kids" part, since those were BROWN children, anyways. Certainly don't want your poor little self thinking that you're involved somehow.

/have another donut, sit back and let BBC tell you what to think
//is that divided up into "talking points" well enough that you can understand it?
 
2006-10-30 09:00:14 AM  
"The pharaoh threatened Israel, he ended up fish-food in the sea."

I hate it when evangelicals get their story mixed up with history.
 
2006-10-30 09:01:57 AM  
You see a puddle of rain. I see a spot of God's drool on the driveway. See, it's perfectly logical to a presume reason is relative. We can both be right.
 
2006-10-30 09:02:06 AM  
"I really hope you're not in Iraq, bjforme ... I'd hate to think I was actually arguing with a terrorist."

Cute. I'm not arguing, btw - just amusing myself with the mental kiddies here. Judging by the level of commentary here, you're not smart enough to waste a good argument on.

/donuts - eat more donuts. Make yourselves comfortable.
 
2006-10-30 09:04:21 AM  
"Brush up on reading comprehension. I asked you to tell me how Iraq is not a disaster WITHOUT GOP talking points."

Your words exactly: "using your own words and 0 talking points. "

Time to brush up on your writing comprehension, pinhead.

/feeling warm? Just go turn that dial on the wall and you'll be fine.
 
2006-10-30 09:04:21 AM  
bjforme: - democracy for the first time ever in Iraq, which means:

Sorry, voting does not a democracy make. As long as US troops are kicking down doors and doing house to house searches, it is not a democracy. It's pretty sad that Americans have been so brainwashed and misguided that they believe that merely voting means your country is a democracy. They voted in the Soviet Union too duh. Democracy implies an open, transparent government. Democracy implies that the citizens of this country aren't being tortured by their own leaders or foreign entities. Democracy implies rule of law and security. Will you still dare to breathe that Iraq is a democracy?

- Saddam's ass is in jail, which means:

Wow that's really done a number on the rebellion hasn't it? Now that Saddam's in jail everything is going farking peachy.

Funny, the Iraqis didn't rebel against Saddam. They are rebelling against US forces. The only conclusion I can reasonably draw from this is that the Iraqis find US forces worse to live under than Saddam
 
2006-10-30 09:05:13 AM  
Lord_Baull

I guess the answer to all your questions is "Republicans." If you like to do this sort of thing, I suggest you throw in a few "mistakes" that the Democrats have made over the years regarding specific terrorists or terrorism operations. It would make you seem more balanced and less unhinged.

Anyway, my post was more global in nature, the specifics that you took great pains to remember or copy and paste aren't really relevant. The Republicans are the acknowledged party of prayer and morality, so it is no wonder that the terrorists and Democrats have lined up against them.
 
2006-10-30 09:06:34 AM  
bjforme

- democracy for the first time ever in Iraq, which means:

What democracy? At the moment they can only pretend they have one.

- moderates in that country have a voice in their government for the first time in Middle Eastern political history

You sure about that?

- ...just stop for a minute and try to think about what that means for the long-term stability of the region, esp. as their oil money starts to dry up

It doesn't mean much. As Afghanistan is foreshadowing Iraq, it'll break down as soon as we leave.

The rest of the Islamic world doesn't like the democratic threat, so Iraq won't stand much of a chance.

- Saddam's ass is in jail, which means:

He would have died eventually anyway. He's not exactly young.

- the UN can finally quit killing children with sanctions

And we've replaced that with 30k civilian deaths in an outright war in Iraq.

Not exactly an improvement...

- Europe can't sell quite so many guns there anymore - sorry, kids!

... so the fact we gave Saddam weapons doesn't count for anything?

Of course, I'm sure you don't really care about the "killing kids" part, since those were BROWN children, anyways. Certainly don't want your poor little self thinking that you're involved somehow.

Strawman argument.

In fact, it's the democratic left that keeps bringing up the civilian deaths over there as a concern.

/have another donut, sit back and let BBC tell you what to think
//is that divided up into "talking points" well enough that you can understand it?


Where do you get your information?
 
2006-10-30 09:08:20 AM  
<i> - moderates in that country have a voice in their government for the first time in Middle Eastern political history</i>

Hey genius, did you bother to look at who was voted into power? It ain't moderates.
It's the same group of people running Iran. Oops!
Oh, and since you missed High School History Class, Iran had a moderate voice until Reagan poked his nose in their business. Try to know what you're talking about, it'll make you look smarter.

<i>- the UN can finally quit killing children with sanctions</i>
You're worried about killing children yet support the Iraq war. Brilliant. And by brilliant, I mean ignorant.

Oh, and for the record, I'm a "brown" person. You, however, need to lay off the Hannity and Coulter and read a newspaper. Or a book.
 
2006-10-30 09:08:29 AM  
bjforme: ...just stop for a minute and try to think about what that means for the long-term stability of the region, esp. as their oil money starts to dry up

Not bloody likely (at least in the near future) that their oil will ever reach a point where it's more costly to pipe and ship than refining our own shiat in shale sands.
 
2006-10-30 09:08:33 AM  
- democracy for the first time ever in Iraq, which means:
- moderates in that country have a voice in their government for the first time in Middle Eastern political history
- ...just stop for a minute and try to think about what that means for the long-term stability of the region, esp. as their oil money starts to dry up

- Saddam's ass is in jail, which means:
- the UN can finally quit killing children with sanctions
- Europe can't sell quite so many guns there anymore - sorry, kids!


No bjforme, you've got it all wrong! It goes like this:

"Democracy" in Iraq which means:
-Secular country becomes a theocracy
-Tension as new factions rise to/fall from power

Saddam's ass is in jail which means:
-No central control, civil war all round! Yay!
-Osama gets his wish

Then you've got thousands of dead civilians it took to reach this point, a costly occupation with no end in site and terrorist recruitment goes through the roof as people who lost their loved ones go looking for revenge.
 
2006-10-30 09:08:34 AM  
2006-10-30 07:49:51 AM Mitch J

Wow. So if I believe something different than you I am a 'fundie'.

You give an example of two people out of thousands and use them as primes.

Mitch, you cannot - simply cannot - be that simple.

On the other hand...there are people who are lost in this world. They have no direction and look to others for their opinion. They choose to let others think for them. So if their preacher is the chosen one of their lost intellect so be it.

If you, Mitch, choose to repeat what you have been told by others and believe it to be the truth how are you different than those you site in the article?

State your beliefs, the origin of them any how you came to that conclusion. You will find many other sheep here who agree with you. The real question is are you strong enough to state your true feelings or do you just follow the lost and angry ones?
 
2006-10-30 09:09:17 AM  
Lord_Baull: I'm a "brown" person.

Shouldnt have said that... I would betcha any minute a B-52 is going to drop a bunker buster on your house.
 
2006-10-30 09:09:57 AM  
Drasancas: And we've replaced that with 30k civilian deaths in an outright war in Iraq.

Or 650,000, depending which media-fed reality you're buying into today.
 
2006-10-30 09:10:15 AM  
czarangelus, hey, whaddya know! Some signs of life. Misguided, simple life, but nonetheless at least you can operate a keyboard.

Democracy in Iraq IS democracy. Police all over the world kick down doors to get the bad guys. That doesn't mean jack. As for the "torture" thing, that's just tired, baseless Democrat propoganda. Like all things lefty, it also doesn't mean jack.

And things are better since Saddam went to jail. Know why? 'Cause Saddam was a bad, bad man who hurt people. We don't like that sort of thing. And the insurgents don't "rebel" against anything. They are just bloodthirsty thugs who want to grab power for themselves. The reason they fight is because they can, and because we're a lot nicer than that bad, bad man I mentioned earlier.

/bored.
 
2006-10-30 09:11:09 AM  
2006-10-30 07:45:23 AM UltimaCS

FarkLark: No, I try to keep my mind open. I even respond to basement dwelling dope smokers with no life experience.

I wasn't aware "open minded" people went out of their way to insult someone with grammar school language, ignore the actual message, and refuse to make any point whatsoever on their part. You only get a 3/10 on the Troll scale, mate.

Going to bed, so I might as well issue my next rebuttal in advance: DIAF u terrist, bibul bashin bastid. ur mom bakes cookies in hur buttcrak.


I am sorry you choose to throw rocks and run. I am here if you want to be open minded. Sleep well little pussy cat.
 
2006-10-30 09:11:48 AM  
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