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(Scotsman)   The war in Iraq is not a disaster, but the beginning of the fulfilment of biblical prophecies that culminate, possibly very soon, in a mighty struggle between good and evil at Armageddon. Here comes the science   (news.scotsman.com ) divider line
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2006-10-30 06:24:43 AM  
From TFA: "I don't want to endure what's going to happen."

I have that same thought every time the Bush administration enacts a new policy. I guess these fundies and I have something in common.
 
2006-10-30 06:27:34 AM  
Many people actually believe this shiat... including my parents :(
 
2006-10-30 06:29:14 AM  
"Conservative American Christians" are none of the three.
 
2006-10-30 06:34:25 AM  
At least they are not calling all followers to jihad. I don't believe in god but if others want to, I have no problem with it. I do have a problem when someone says I MUST worship their god. You liberals seems so afraid of people having religion, and I mean not in the photo op form that most democrat politicians have , but people who truly do believe.
 
2006-10-30 06:35:04 AM  
Hey subby, you can't have 'fulfilment of biblical prophacies' and 'here comes the science' in the same sentence. Just like 'Christian Scientist', it's an oxymoron.
 
2006-10-30 06:38:26 AM  
religion is the biggest joke played on humanity.

Dostoyevsky said that if religion hadn't come about the way it had, one would have had to been created (paraphrase). If you need to control the minds and actions of a civilization, put the fear of eternal damnation in the mix.

I don't mind the use of religion to provide a moral compass to those who need one, but to incite violence. fear, and ignorance is reprehensible.
 
2006-10-30 06:39:06 AM  
Freedom fries anyone ?
 
2006-10-30 06:41:41 AM  
Personally, I think the reason why the Bush administration is so bent on messing around in the middle east and ignoring North Korea is because Bush thinks that if he manages to bring about 'the end times', then Jebus will appear and he'll look like some incredible savor.

My personal viewpoint is that any religion that preaches about 'the end times' and how the evils of the current world will bring about the end times is one that I need to avoid, much like when you're walking down the sidewalk and you move to avoid that pile of dog shiat.
 
2006-10-30 06:43:35 AM  
At least they are not calling all followers to jihad.

Yeah, at least they have the sense to con OTHER people's kids into joining the army.
 
2006-10-30 06:44:45 AM  
Every time has been considered "the end time" by nutballs like those people. For some reason time refuses to cooperate.
 
2006-10-30 06:47:45 AM  
Christo-Fascists...send them to Gitmo.
 
2006-10-30 06:49:22 AM  
"Those who can amake you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire

Credo quia absurdum - I believe it because it is absurd. (contrary to reason) - Tertullian

Religious belief is a mental illness. Every day we see increasingly extreme examples of its pathology. It will, if unchecked, eventually be the death of humanity.
 
2006-10-30 06:54:20 AM  
FTFA:

One devotee, tourist office supervisor Liz Andrews, grew tearful as she said: "I hope America stands by them [Israel] because I think that if Americans don't, something bad will happen to us. I don't want to be one of the ones left behind. I don't want to endure what's going to happen."

Not because she's a good person, not because she believes it's best for the reason, but because she's afraid of being punished. How noble.
 
2006-10-30 06:56:41 AM  
Disgruntled Postal Worker

At least they are not calling all followers to jihad.

No, they're just calling for war, and that's totally different from calling for jihad!

You liberals seems so afraid of people having religion, and I mean not in the photo op form that most democrat politicians have , but people who truly do believe.

You make a very good point. What's more Christian than calling for the nuclear annihilation of your enemies? The people in TFA are clearly far more Christian than any anti-war, help-the-poor bleeding heart liberal. I mean, what could be further from Jesus' message than that? You are right to respect these people for their beautiful faith, so true to Jesus' teachings and so inspirational in its call for the violent end of the world. I mean, that's the kind of mentality that I really respect, too.
 
2006-10-30 07:01:14 AM  
thejoyofpi:

Can we please just secede from Jesusland and join Canada?

Failing that, I'd settle for nuking Texas.


How about we settle for you, dying in a fire, stat.
 
2006-10-30 07:05:43 AM  
asshats
 
2006-10-30 07:06:47 AM  
All Bible prophecy is Self-fulfilling.
 
2006-10-30 07:07:15 AM  
FTA: One devotee, tourist office supervisor Liz Andrews, grew tearful as she said: "I hope America stands by them [Israel] because I think that if Americans don't, something bad will happen to us. I don't want to be one of the ones left behind. I don't want to endure what's going to happen."

And this is why the US can't establish a sensible foreign policy when it comes to Israel. It aint "the jooz", it's "the evangelicoolz" who think any disagreement with the state of Israel will bring the wrath of God down on us all.

These people can't even read their own holy book. Jesus was the ultimate pacifist, not a war monger. There is just no excuse for a Christian being "pro-war".
 
2006-10-30 07:08:36 AM  
I suppose the ultimate irony is that the neoconservatives constantly accuse Iran's president of seeking to fulfill some religious apocalypse prophecy...while the reality is, that's exactly what their own supporters on the religious right are trying to do.
 
2006-10-30 07:09:42 AM  
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit building the Third Temple
 
2006-10-30 07:14:16 AM  
Weaver95

Duuuude, can I bum some spice off you?
 
2006-10-30 07:17:11 AM  
Notice that this nutjob never suggests actually going to Israel to join their army and fight the "Good Fight". That would require leaving their little angry cocoon and being surrounded by true israelis that would think they are nuts.
 
2006-10-30 07:18:38 AM  
Who gets to be Leto II?
 
2006-10-30 07:23:16 AM  
Too bad we can't use two tags ... scary would be appropriate when you remember that Bush believes this, too.
 
2006-10-30 07:24:43 AM  
Science schmience.
 
2006-10-30 07:29:23 AM  
Party Boy: Harris aims to solidify evangelicals' support for her Senate bid.

At least we don't have to worry about this. Harris is down about 20 points in the polls, which is well beyond the error margin or anything the undecided voters could give her at the last minute.

Florida ... finally doing SOMETHING right.
 
2006-10-30 07:29:32 AM  
i96.photobucket.com
 
2006-10-30 07:29:55 AM  
thanks to the charismatic founder, Pastor John Hagee, the rising star of America's TV evangelists.

Anyone else stop reading right about here?
 
2006-10-30 07:30:08 AM  
www.strk3.com
 
2006-10-30 07:30:36 AM  
elchip

Jesus sure is packing a serious six pack there, I want his exercise routine.
 
2006-10-30 07:33:22 AM  
2006-10-30 07:17:11 AM angryjd


Notice that this nutjob never suggests actually going to Israel to join their army and fight the "Good Fight". That would require leaving their little angry cocoon and being surrounded by true israelis that would think they are nuts.


A couple of things. First these folks are not in an angry little cocoon. They are worldly folks who have come to a common belief. There are elements of the church who are angry, as in any large group, but Hagee preaches love and biblical knowledge.

Secondly there is a mission in Hagee's church to help young men join the military. As you should be aware many young men excel in the environment the military provides. Specifically the discipline, the sense of belonging and a knowledge that you are serving a greater purpose.

Finally if you are one who lumps all who go to church as ignorant haters then the problem is you.

Those who chose to believe in the teaching of the bible have made a decision to believe. Those who chose not to believe have made the same decision. At the very least Blaise Pascal made the best sense of it - for a while, the debate still continues on that level.

/always will be haters.
//always will be the poor
 
2006-10-30 07:35:44 AM  
2006-10-30 07:29:55 AM UltimaCS


thanks to the charismatic founder, Pastor John Hagee, the rising star of America's TV evangelists.

Anyone else stop reading right about here?


No, I try to keep my mind open. I even respond to basement dwelling dope smokers with no life experience.
 
2006-10-30 07:41:21 AM  
Well yes. Did you think the human race would last forever? Get ready cause here it comes and you cannot hide anywhere.
 
2006-10-30 07:42:06 AM  
The article says that Bush is "the country's first Born Again president." Uh uh. Brother Jimmy Carter.
 
2006-10-30 07:45:23 AM  
boy, is this guy going to feel foolish..

I said the same thing about the two tons of idjits who prophecized the end of the world on 01/01/2000

FarkLark: No, I try to keep my mind open. I even respond to basement dwelling dope smokers with no life experience.

I wasn't aware "open minded" people went out of their way to insult someone with grammar school language, ignore the actual message, and refuse to make any point whatsoever on their part. You only get a 3/10 on the Troll scale, mate.

Going to bed, so I might as well issue my next rebuttal in advance: DIAF u terrist, bibul bashin bastid. ur mom bakes cookies in hur buttcrak.
 
2006-10-30 07:49:51 AM  
FarkLark

A couple of things. First these folks are not in an angry little cocoon. They are worldly folks who have come to a common belief

TFA:

Christians and Jews must make common cause against forces of darkness he identifies as Arabs, Russians and even a future president of the EU. Christians who fail in their duty will be "left behind" when the obedient are summoned to heaven.

One devotee, tourist office supervisor Liz Andrews, grew tearful as she said: "I hope America stands by them [Israel] because I think that if Americans don't, something bad will happen to us. I don't want to be one of the ones left behind. I don't want to endure what's going to happen."

Another follower, teacher Patrick Hewitt, said the pastor will shortly post instructions, on his website on how parishioners should cast their ballots for the mid-term elections. "I'm going to vote the way he tells me," he said.

Worldly indeed.
 
2006-10-30 07:51:15 AM  
FarkLark, I lol'd! You even received the "You are an illiterate troll" rebuke!
 
2006-10-30 07:53:34 AM  
Came back one last time to check on how hot the coals were, but it looks like Mitch J just put FarkLark back into his little fundie world, where he belongs. Carry on.
 
2006-10-30 08:01:42 AM  
Absolutely hilarious. You'd all better start cultivating a Buddhist non-attachment to life now, because you never know when these fundamentalist nutjobs are going to pull the trigger (and I'm not talking about Muslims here.)
 
2006-10-30 08:02:43 AM  
006-10-30 06:56:41 AM Executive Monkey [TotalFark]
"You make a very good point. What's more Christian than calling for the nuclear annihilation of your enemies? The people in TFA are clearly far more Christian than any anti-war, help-the-poor bleeding heart liberal. I mean, what could be further from Jesus' message than that? You are right to respect these people for their beautiful faith, so true to Jesus' teachings and so inspirational in its call for the violent end of the world. I mean, that's the kind of mentality that I really respect, too."


Where in the article is he advocating nuking Iran. He is responding to Irans call for the total destruction of Israel. He is saying that Iran may receive what they are wanting for Israel.
 
2006-10-30 08:03:43 AM  
Hallelujah! .... What a nutjob, and worldly???? Probably never travelled farther than Waco (or is that Wacko) TX.
 
2006-10-30 08:04:44 AM  
2006-10-30 06:43:35 AM sunlion

It's their kids who are joining the military.
 
2006-10-30 08:05:28 AM  
Hardly surprising that those who buck and prick in resentment at the often disquieting questions and answers that modern science presents, that those who either through inclination or indoctrination prefer to serve the veiled interests of an unaccountable figurehead vested with the powers of life and death, that those who long for an actual fraking end to the world, that these are Bush's most hardened and ardent supporters. To them, Bush really is their godsend.

Keep this in mind my faith-fevered brethren: Satan is also the handiwork of your God.
 
2006-10-30 08:07:25 AM  
Disgruntled Postal Worker: He is responding to Irans call for the total destruction of Israel.

God damn the millions of people who believe this bullshiat. He never threatened Israel with an attack. He said, "The forces of history will remove the Israeli regime from the region." That is a goddamn far cry from talking about "killing all the Jews" and that other nonsense the right and Tatsuma keep babbling about. Iran is not going to attack Israel. There's nothing in it for them. But is the Zionist conspiracy of US/Israel going to attack Iran? Time will tell, but all this death is going to be on your manic paranoid heads.
 
2006-10-30 08:11:46 AM  
Riche

A Democratic Republic such as ours only works when the voting population is well informed and open to reason.

Actually Socrates and Plato both were against democracy. Plato especially hated it and tried to set up a system where the elite thinkers could rule.

There have been some brilliant philosophers that have come out against democracy claiming it to be a sham.
 
2006-10-30 08:13:35 AM  
So what was that I heard in one of the other fark-religion threads? Something about sanctions such as the removal of charity status for churches that tell people how to vote? Something about how the religious would never interfere with politics....

Hmmm.

People with an apocalypse fetish really scare me. I mean, I'm fairly reckless when it comes to my own life, but these folks actively seek the end of the world 'cos they believe their little group will be proved superior and saved by Gawd Almighteh! Scary stuff.

Always liked Pratchett/Gaiman's take on it in Good Omens. An evangelical preacher is possessed by an angel and they have a dialog in which the angel confirms that yes, armageddon is upon us, the end times really are nigh. But that John was just a man who ate one too many unusual fungi, this whole "rapture" thing's just a misinterpretation.
 
2006-10-30 08:13:44 AM  
I pray for your shoulders every night.
 
2006-10-30 08:17:40 AM  
like I keeps saying, y'all Merkin folx voted to ditch democracy for theocracy close to 8 years ago... Time to eat your own cookin'

Shame about the rest of us you insist on dragging down with yas.

Frrrp
 
2006-10-30 08:19:45 AM  
Nothing says "common sense" like taking for truth a 2000+ year old story book. Not to mention, according to the same,
Israel will have -NO- allies during the battle of Armageddon. Including the USA. They don't even pay attention to their own
scripture.
 
2006-10-30 08:21:37 AM  
From dehumanization to arms production,
For the benefit of the nation or its destruction

Power is power, the law of the land,
Those living for death will die by their own hand,
Life's no ordeal if you come to terms,
Reject the system dictating the norms

It's your choice, your choice, your choice, your choice,
Peace or annihilation
 
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