"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).

Don't do it, ever!

That is all

Submitter is a 'ckin tard. Scotland and Wales are part of Britain. Don't let the truth get in the way of your blinding stupidity though will you dumbass.

Because if it was written in a book thousands of years ago it must be true!

So if my count is correct, the mark of the beast could include:

- cell phones
- credit ratings
- social security numbers
- RFID

I agree that RFID for people is ridiculous, but to pull up that quote that could apply to any number of things to prove your point time and again is ridiculous.

This is what happens when a people let slip their rights and freedoms.

"I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees".

i aint in the NRA.

im 18, and a curio relic rifle/pistol collectore.

their all lubed, magazines or clips loaded (not cocked and chambered though).


its called being ready.

UN, zombies, whatev. ready.

I implanted a chip in all my closest friends. The hard way.

Aren't the Scottish and Welsh British as well...?

/conquered beyotches!
//Not really
///well sorta

d3ik, I came in here hoping that no one had put up a point like Let my sheeple go...I was wrong. Time and time again, the zealots have forced some random quotation to attempt to prove a point. I swear, if I had a dime for every time the fanatics used this quote against something, I would be a very, very rich man. At least, rich enough to pay for TotalFark.

totalsecurity: This is what happens when a people let slip their rights and freedoms.

"I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees".

I afraid we might find out if you have the marbles to back those words.

/Don't know if I do or not, but I have enough weapons to make it interesting.

Lets put chips in all politicians first. Then go online to track what brothel their RICH azz's are in...

/It aint nice to implant the peoples without first experiencing it yourself.

Ahhhh, the Kalishnikov, a masterpiece of firearms design. The well made examples are some of the finest all around firearms ever. I prefer the Robinsons they are wonderful to shoot, as well as look at, remarkable accuracy, easily as good as the AR-15's I have shot. I have high hopes for this election, if the Repubs keep both houses of congress it will be with straight up crookery, blatant theft. The question will then be not who to vote for next election, but who do we have to take out to get our democracy back.

We will accept this and move on, just like we've accepted every other invasion of privacy and whittling away of our rights that's come in the last few years. They'll only have to force a limited subset of the population--the rest will go willingly to recieve the chip--convinced the benefits of convenience and the illusion of security outweigh the drawbacks.

I intend to be in the former group. Just because I've done nothing wrong does not mean I want to be treated like I have.

Mugato

Who told you that??? Most every single gun owner I know (Myself included.) supports the ENTIRE constitution. We don't pick and choose like the Democrats, Republicans, MADD, ACLU, and others like to do. To us, those "A-rabs and turrists" are more the reason to have an armed people and keep to the constitution. There are many things that may gun owners don't agree with the NRA on. However, they are the best game in down and don't piss on the constitution like everyone else does. JPFO is another good organisation.

I support the entire constitution, that means:

If you want gay marriage? Go ahead, just shut up and leave me alone. I don't want your pamphlets, posters, or to sign your petitions. I don't constantly bug you about the joys of being straight, so I ask that you please do the same. Go do your thing and have a great time.

Same goes for most anything else that doesn't hurt anyone. I don't care, just leave me alone. If I want to discuss the merrits of your cause. I will. When I say "no" please go talk to someone else. Freedom of speech means I have the right not to listen to you. Quit trying to force feed me your view. If you have figures and info, great. I'll take them are read them when I have time. If I say I am busy, please respect that.

totalsecurity: "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

Zapata?

Paranoid nutjobs, like bees to pollen./

Sure, the government supplies the chips, but who's bringing the dip?

Since when are dogs microchipped?

The Daily Mail is a good source of worst case scenario crap. Especially if they can blame it on Labour.

many chip their dogs (and cars!).

PlaidKing


Since when are dogs microchipped?

my dog is


its like lo-jack for dogs

November 5th is coming soon

goofoffgoose: totalsecurity: "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

Zapata?

Skatenigs.

Waaaah my personal freedoms!

The way this should be implemented is make it voluntary to start with. For instance, i wouldnt care and would happily be barcoded/microchipped if this meant i no longer had to carry my wallet or keys or show ID when i wanted to get into a pub.

Everyone who honestly thinks the evil government will be watching them personally to specifically ruin their lives for some grand conspiracy can refuse to have the chip. That is their choice and as individuals I am quite happy for them to exercise that choice.

However, I would like the personal freedom to enjoy the advantages and benefits of this new technology and not have that personal freedom restricted by others paranoia.

It makes my life easier and to be honest i couldnt care less if someone knows where i was on Tuesday night 3 weeks ago or how much i spent.

/It was on your mum
// I spent $3.40

"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark ON HIS RIGHT HAND OR ON HIS FOREHEAD so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).

How do you confuse this with cell phones, social security numbers or credit cards? This can ONLY be describing ONE THING and that is AN IMPLANTABLE COMPUTER CHIP. It IS the Mark of the Beast, make no mistake!

Maybe, just maybe, the reason so many millions have taken that "silly book of superstions" called the Bible seriously for two thousand years is because it contains the TRUTH. Look at it this way, that passage from Revelations was written over 1900 years ago and described something that no generation before ours could have conceived. And amazingly, the technology comes along in our own soulless, cynical generation where every other person thinks it's clever and cute to trash the Bible.

If you can't see the peril in having yourself chipped like a dog so that everywhere you go and everything you buy and everything you do is traceable by the farkin' federal government, well then I suppose you will be stupid enough to take the chip when they force it on you. I may live to regret saying this, but I would rather be shot or left to starve and die with my soul intact.

PlaidKing

My dog is microchipped, too. It is nice to know that he will always have some form of recognized ID on him.

This will never happen, sane people will not let someone implant a tracking device in them. Abuse is the reason it will not happen, they have not even put the RF tags (of the sophistication the article talks about) on individual consumer goods because a thief could drive by your house and scan an inventory of the premises. Besides RF can be easily “Killed” with a simple device. RF has its place, like tracking pallets of goods in warehouses, but it’s not for people.

2006-10-29 11:52:16 PMPicador
Look at it this way, that passage from Revelations was written over 1900 years ago and described something that no generation before ours could have conceived.

Confucius predicted far more accurately than the Bible has done, and similarly he did it with numerous generalisations that people interpreted in hindsight.

(meant Nostradamus, of course)

/bollocks

ClintonKun

Yep, But since Guy Fawkes was a terrorist who attempted to blow up the goverment, I think it will be business as usual, burning his efigy.

What a load. We're already barcoded.

Guy Fawkes was a patsy. The plot to blow up the parliament building came from within. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Can you not see the threat of a system that will ultimately create a PERMANENT ruling leisure class whose riches will be sustained at the mere touch of a button while everyone else is kept at subsistence wages and a lifetime of fruitless labor to support the useless elites? Some will simply glide about taking anything they want without lifting a finger to provide for society, while everyone else will be made to work and work for a system that never allows them the possibility of enriching themselves. This is a NIGHTMARE and I am appalled at the number of docile cows on this thread who think it's no big deal that we are on the verge of being transformed into living ATM cards. You will be NOTHING but your bank account, and you won't even have control over that. You will be livestock.

No docility here. I'll return fire before I let an RFID get implanted in me.
Maybe soon it will become obvious why the second amendment is in the constitution. Hint: its not for hunting, or target practise.

Of course, Britons have a LONG history of being ruled absolutly. Isn't that why we(Americans) left?

Picador

Guy Fawkes was a patsy. The plot to blow up the parliament building came from within. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Can you not see the threat of a system that will ultimately create a PERMANENT ruling leisure class whose riches will be sustained at the mere touch of a button while everyone else is kept at subsistence wages and a lifetime of fruitless labor to support the useless elites? Some will simply glide about taking anything they want without lifting a finger to provide for society, while everyone else will be made to work and work for a system that never allows them the possibility of enriching themselves. This is a NIGHTMARE and I am appalled at the number of docile cows on this thread who think it's no big deal that we are on the verge of being transformed into living ATM cards. You will be NOTHING but your bank account, and you won't even have control over that. You will be livestock.

Do you happen to have a website called infowars or prisonplanet?

Eh. We all need a swift kick in the ass.

Lotustuned, you do know Wales and Scotland were independent hundreds of years ago and then conquered by England? And that the Kingdom of Britain consisted of England ruling over conquered Wales,Scotland and Ireland? Eh, the EU is everyone in Europes real gubbermint now so if they decide on tags, tags everyone will get.

/Someone should make a movie about Llewelyn.
//Scotland did end up joining up, though it was conquered once before it did. Joined up in the Act of Union in 1707.
/// Sah-Lashy

Having lived in Britain for years I'm shocked to find that Scotland and Wales aren't part of it.

Submitter - how's them apples doing now?

For non-UK types - this is the Daily Mail. Don't expect any truth in it and you're on the right lines.

meekychuppet

Learn to close tags - how's them apples doing now?

My Short Guide to Led Zeppelin's Homeland

There are a number of islands off the northern coast of western Europe. Like many islands, they have names. The big one is called Britain. The slightly smaller, but still large one, is called Ireland. Everything on the large one is British, everything on the smaller one is Irish. This is before political lines are drawn.

Like most groups of related islands, the group is named after the largest member. Therefore, these are called The British Isles. In addition to Britain and Ireland, other major islands here are the Isle of Man, the Isle of Wight, and two smaller chains north of Scotland. This is still as of yet unrelated to anything political.

Several centuries ago a part of France became heavily settled by the Welsh and, to a smaller extent, the English. There were so many British, and so few French, here that they called it "Little Britain", or Brittany. Where there's a little, there's a big, so the island of Britain came to be called Great Britain.

There have been dozens of countries on these islands. At a certain point in history, Britain had three. They were called England, Scotland, and Wales. Through a very complicated process of warfare, treaty, and marriage, these three united under the nominal rule of the Crown of England. The term "Great Britain", used as a country name, refers to these three.

In more recent, but equally complex, history, Great Britain conquered the island of Ireland, then some years later lost most of it to independence in a civil war. The three nations of Great Britain, along with the piece of Ireland remaining in their possession, style themselves "The United Kingdom".

In summary:

Britain - A large island north of France and east of the island of Ireland
British - Anything that has to do with this island (theoretically, it could also refer to anything that has to do with the group, but the Irish would never stand for it)
Ireland - A large island north of Spain and west of the island of Britain. Also the short name for a modern country on this island.
England - a country on the island of Britain
Scotland - another country on the island of Britain
Wales - a third country on the island of Britain
Great Britain - the term that refers to all the countries on Britain: England, Scotland, and Wales
The United Kingdom - the four countries governed by the Parliament of England: England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

Thanks to Alveolar_Stop, for fininally explaining all things British in a way that my American mind can fully understand.

As for the rest of you assholes that are attempting to turn this into a religious flamewar: grow the hell up already.

You ever read the book, "The Road to Serfdom"? It's really really weird. Talks about how socialism eventually leads to Nazism - written by a German named Hayek, who was living in England at the time he wrote it. The wildest part is, reading it NOW, I coulda swore he was talking about America.

So, I guess shiatty ideas go -> Germany, -> England -> America.

I dunno, I'm probably full of crap. Still, read the book.

Mickcollins

1. There is no such thing as the kingdom of britain. (United kingdom of great Britian and northern Ireland)

2. Go check out what the big island, off france, is called. Then check out what all people who hail from it are called. Finaly look up where Scotland and wales are. (also that was not just what the english called it, Julius ceaser called it Britian, the English didn't arrive untill the 5th century)

It's kind of amusing yet slightly scary that thousands of Farkers get their information on the UK through the insane-o-filter of The Daily Mail.
It's like Brits getting all their info on the US via Bill O'Reilly's talkative back passage. Paranoia, hate, half-truths, fear mongering...
Plus I'd also like to add that Wales and Scotland are part of the British Isles and they are also British. Enough with the 'omg they wuz conquered teh English is evil'.
Conveniently ignores the fact that Welsh and Scots regard themselves as British and indeed were some of the most enthusiastic participants of the colonial era. Nice that American Farkers with a slim grasp of history can be outraged on their behalf though. You're welcome to head over to the UK and give it your best William Wallace or Owain Glyndwr impressions. You might find that people have moved on in the past few hundred years though.

Britain? It's that big damp foggy island north-east of Ushant, right?