它是巧合。

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SoonerGrad: 它是巧合。


我不会感觉舒适的飞行在飞机中国制造。它会是象买您737 在Wal-Mart。

No coincidence there, nope

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I don't think anyone would say it isn't related. Including Airbus.

Working for a company that produces in china... they're in for a fun time dealing with quality issues!

Someone needs to fill submitter in on bu bus business. Yeah that's the word.

Can I be first to blame Bush?

ZOMFG THATS NOT A COINCIDENCE!111!1!!11!1

It is the coincidence.

I cannot feel the comfortable flight makes in airplane China. It can be likely buys your 737 in Wal-Mart.

/the more you babelfish, the more you get a vague idea.

How long before you can buy counterfeit jumbo jets on the Chinese black market?

Agreeing to open a factory in a country is standard practice to gain wider entry into their markets.

Duh. You think Toyota builds cars over here because factory workers in Kentucky are the bestest in the world?

Why is this an issue?

Landofmiddlegirth Why is this an issue?

Because it prevents people like you or me from getting those billion dollar contracts to build things like airbuses or nuclear subs. It's all about big corporations supporting big corporations, and outsourcing.

Man I hate the Bush administration and their capitalism. How dare China help an tras-global corporation in making money. Damn those handsom and intelligent devils!

Didn't know there was a big french contingent on fark here to biatch about outsourcing.

Exactly. Look at them all, buying our aircraft and building our planes.... looking at our women, ggrrr.

Toyota along with other Asian and European automakers make cars in the US because it is cheaper and labor unions aren't as strong. They build new factories in depressed areas, like the South, and stiff the works on benefits which American car makers can't back out off.

2006-10-27 02:21:09 AM EL_FABREZ


Landofmiddlegirth Why is this an issue?

Because it prevents people like you or me from getting those billion dollar contracts to build things like airbuses or nuclear subs. It's all about big corporations supporting big corporations, and outsourcing.

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You do realize that Airbus is a French company, right?

stardude,

It's cheaper to make the cars abroad and ship them to North America.

Also if that weren't the case, there is always Mexico. They build the factories in the South partly because of tax breaks, but at that point one American city is as good as the next.

Ever since American auto protectionism was on the rise in the early 80s they thought ahead and now they can't be shut out of the market unless a politician is prepared to lay off thousands of American workers.

h to the 'ojo

So you can see the coming dystopian shiathole that america is going to become when only the "ownership society" finally matures. That's when the US can't offer the world anything, the only prosperous people will be those with equity. Anyone that actually has to work for a living will be farked because of the sellouts in office right now.

Landofmiddlegirth: You do realize that Airbus is a French company, right?

I thought it was a European company, which gets fat subsidies from the E.U. The same E.U. who's regulators blocked an expansion/merger of Boeing for no other reason I could see aside from protecting Airbus.

天啊! 誰寫你們的中文? 看起來得把我腦子壞了. 大概因為語法一點奇怪. 幹嘛!


好, 我希望中國別來台灣, 因為我還是在這裡. 我先回國, 中國再出來, 好嗎?

It's a French company. The French are in the E.U. I never thought of it as a European company. That's like saying Ford is a North American company.

I don't see anything wrong with them protecting European companies.

this headline is lame. they even said (in german media at least) that it was part of the contract that the endmontage (putting all the parts together) would be done in china, thus the new plant.

It's cheaper to make the cars abroad and ship them to North America.

This is true, the reason Japanese and other car makers have manufacturing plants in the U.S is because of the tariffs, quotas and regulations designed to help the U.S. based auto makers.

also they are 320s not 321s

Airbusburten?

Didn't Boeing basically do this with their new 787?

Of course, China will never use this for military purposes. But just to be sure, we should get them to promise they won't.

(with a cherry on top, just for extra insurance)

R

大家好。我是what was his name again?

You are...

The only reason why they will build in China is because they know China is to be the next superpower in the world. There are many more engineers and scientists graduating in China than any country in the world per capita and this is proof of that fact

Good for them.

/enrolled his son in Mandarin 1.

car companies here get generous government subsidies/tax breaks.

"first plant" guess there is going to be more?
"French President Jacques Chirac, France's president" nice editing.

It's much easier to steal corporate secrets when the company is located in your country.

/can't possibly go wrong

Hey China still cool. You pay later, later!

Heh....

What happened to you China...you used to be cool...

Yay for the punchline BEFORE the joke...

NatalieHershlag

The only reason why they will build in China is because they know China is to be the next superpower in the world. There are many more engineers and scientists graduating in China than any country in the world per capita and this is proof of that fact.

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Superpower - never.
And from these engineers 0 is equipped with a creative brain

stardude82: stiff the works on benefits which American car makers can't back out off.

Actually several of the plants that make cars of Japanese manufacturers in the US are unionized. The Japanese, nor European makers, have any issue with unions. Also those factories that aren't unionized, pay at least as well if not better and provide equal if not better benefits as compared to unionzed factories. Oh and in most caes the plants for foreign makes pay better tha the domestics.

Also cheaper is a matter of accounting. Actual labor costs in the US are higher than in Japan or Europe, but business and regulatory costs are lower. So you pay more for labor but less to have a factory and less to do business. Also by making cars here that are sold here you greatly reduce transportation costs.

I have no problem at all with this. Seems a standard sort of arrangement to me. Airbus is NOT just French, it's a consortium originally of primarily French and English, but with lots of other involvement from all over the EU. They're hurting right now and a big contract like this has to help.

Whether you like their planes or not, competition in any market is good. We all benefit in the long run.

I've not been especially happy with the Boeings I've flown in lately, although it's probably Delta's fault for packing us in like sardines and taking out the farking air vents! It kills me that their 767's give you a screen in the back of the seat in front at the expense of your personal air vent. Poor trade if you ask me -- I bring my own in-flight entertainment but I can't bring my own aircon!

Meh,

Embraer has had a factory in Harbin, China for about a year. BFD

No coincidence there, nope


It's obviously not a coincidence, and isn't even painted as one.

So what?

R said:
Day! Who writes your Chinese? Looked like my brain to be bad Because the grammar 1. is probably strange Does! and: Good, I hoped China do not come Taiwan, because of me or in here I first return to homeland, China comes out again?

What the fark does Taiwan have to do with the Mainland when we're talking about French frog-farkers giving the crimson tide planes?

Go China, if you have any spare cash today it's a good time to by stock in Industrial & Commercial Bank of China's IPO. They're trying to raise 20+ Billion. Good time to buy back our dollars.

Did Airbus ever deliver any of those 380 turkeys?

They will steal every bit of technology that Airbus puts into their planes. As one book on aircraft said: It's all about the wing. The wing design and formulae are closely guarded secrets (so I have been led to believe). Airbus is about to find a competing factory opening in 5 or 10 years making a very similar looking craft - the AirBlus???
Oh well, it's their business

Smitty apparently rides the short Airbus.

This is standard practice.

Plus, its not really outsourcing, since the factory will produce only for China, and even then, its capacity is not sufficient enough to manufacture all the planes, so the remaining planes will be made probably in Toulouse.

/deals in aircraft financing

How dare Europe and China try and create jobs and exploit new markets! I demand action to protect American industry, we must bomb there cities, kill there leaders and convert them to the American Free Market system!