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(Globe and Mail)   Best way to win a big lottery prize in Ontario is to work for the corporation that runs the lottery -- 214 people who do have won $50,000 or more since 1999, the odds of which are one in a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 104
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2006-10-25 10:58:46 AM  
So, you're saying it's possible.
 
2006-10-25 11:20:43 AM  
I buy an occasional lottery ticket, but I have noticed that there are a huge number of winners in Ontario and Quebec, with very few winners in other provinces. Now of course there is quite a population difference, but if it really is random then there should be a winner here from time to time right?
 
2006-10-25 11:23:26 AM  
oh and FTFA, a lot of the "insider" wins could be blamed on crooked retailers. When it's up to the clerk to TELL YOU how much you've won, you leave the whole system open to abuse.

In SK the machines don't even beep when you win a prize. In a reply to my email to the lotto commission, they told me it was to "protect the privacy of our winners"... The only way to be sure is to get the ticket back from the clerk and check it yourself I guess.
 
2006-10-25 11:23:34 AM  
TFA: one in a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion

Is there an echo on that website, or are they afraid to use the technical term: 'brazillion'?
 
2006-10-25 11:39:20 AM  
is there a picture that best sums up the "loser" sound from the Price is Right?

/tuba and then some slurred horns
 
2006-10-25 11:41:41 AM  
Nice. So statistically, your retailer is winning more, cheating regular players out of the winnings, but there's no investigation by officials or the police.
I'd feel ripped off.
 
2006-10-25 11:43:58 AM  
The program airing Wednesday night suggests this may be a problem across Canada and the United States.

in the US? Not so much. Why?

"I think we were a little naïve and thought they would have been banned from playing."

that pretty well sums up the control I've seen in the 3 lottery states I've lived in - if you have any ability to affect the outcome of winning other than ticket purchase volume then you are not allowed to play.
 
2006-10-25 11:45:28 AM  
If my math was right (it's early) The odds are 1 in 1 quindecillion (48 zeroes)
 
2006-10-25 11:45:28 AM  
Step 1: Sell lottery tickets, validate them for customers
Step 2: Wait for it...
Step 3: Profit!

/because after all, I deserve it so much more than the loser who bought the ticket...
 
2006-10-25 11:46:27 AM  
The Lottery is a tax on the stupid.

/what?
 
2006-10-25 11:48:18 AM  
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1. Isn't that the same odds as the Devil Rays winning the World Series in 2007?
 
2006-10-25 11:49:30 AM  
yo submitter -
i20.photobucket.com

people who do have won ? WTF!?
 
2006-10-25 11:49:59 AM  
Kansas used to have a drawing of the losing tickets. I knew a lady who worked in a liquor store that would dig out all the losing tickets out of the trash, fill out the back side and send them in for the drawing. I don't know how many she ended up sending in but she won a million dollars.
She quit the job and moved.
 
2006-10-25 11:50:03 AM  
Rackemup

waah waah wahh Ontario waaaaaah Quebec WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
 
2006-10-25 11:51:56 AM  
whatever, and the odds of you winning if you're 2 steps from death's door or retired are 1:10. STFU and GBTW
 
2006-10-25 11:52:01 AM  
1 in 10^48 makes more sense to me.
 
2006-10-25 11:52:23 AM  
IsayIsay: Is there an echo on that website, or are they afraid to use the technical term: 'brazillion'?

Are you sure that's what it means? Because my wife got a brazillion once, and let me tell you, it didn't have anything to do with big numbers.
 
2006-10-25 11:52:31 AM  
and something to do with unclaimed winning tickets, I imagine.
 
2006-10-25 11:52:46 AM  
Is that a Brazillion?
 
2006-10-25 11:52:53 AM  
Ohhhhh.....

The tax on stupid people pays off for some smart ones. I get it now.
 
2006-10-25 11:55:44 AM  
Just like McDonald's Monopoly game, you don't think you are really going to win do you?
 
2006-10-25 11:55:58 AM  
Thank you - PorkChopSndwich5
 
2006-10-25 11:56:51 AM  
IsayIsay


TFA: one in a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion

Is there an echo on that website, or are they afraid to use the technical term: 'brazillion'?


lol
 
2006-10-25 11:57:51 AM  
PorkChopSndwich5
is there a picture that best sums up the "loser" sound from the Price is Right?

/tuba and then some slurred horns



Got-dambit, now that "song" is stuck in my head.


/got no pics
//The price is wrong, biatch.
 
2006-10-25 11:59:13 AM  
REAL SHAMAN

Ohhhhh.....

The tax on stupid people pays off for some smart ones. I get it now.


Come on now...they aren't necessarily stupid. Just really really bad at math. I could be a genius graduate of world history, but still think I have a chance at winning the lottery...especially if I were a world history graduate, because I'd probably be unemployed too...
 
2006-10-25 12:01:11 PM  
It's kind of stupid to say buying a lottery ticket is stupid.

It's a risk v. reward. The risk is that you'll lose your money, but since it's not a lot of money, it is not a lot of risk. The reward is potentially millions of dollars.

It's only stupid if you're the kind of idiot who goes out and buys them 10 at a time or whathaveyou. A ticket every week or two is hardly stupid.
 
2006-10-25 12:02:43 PM  
The Lottery is a tax on the stupid.

I never really agreed with this argument. The lottery is just gambling, and it's taxed. So, for $1, I have a very long shot in the dark to win $5m+ and part of that $1 goes back in to the community, and if I win, so does a substantial portion of my winning. It's win/win in that aspect. If I win, free money, if not, I'm contributing some money to the community.

How is buying a lottery ticket any different than putting $1 on 21 in roulette? Or Keno? Or Black Jack? Excluding odds. It's all gambling, and it's all taxed.
 
2006-10-25 12:03:49 PM  
Check your own tickets and/or ask for proof of payout, which the machines provide.

"Problem" solved.
 
2006-10-25 12:04:20 PM  
Mike_Bolton:

I might not be an english expert, but that headline made perfect sense to me. Your criticism of smitty is unnecessarily harsh.

Tone down the douchebaggery.
 
2006-10-25 12:07:22 PM  
Rackemup: Now of course there is quite a population difference

Kind of an understatement. Those two provinces make up about 63% of the population, but it would be interesting to see if they buy lottery tickets at a greater rate than the rest of the country.
 
2006-10-25 12:07:25 PM  
I don't doubt that clerks are ripping off their customers but I would like more evidence than someone in the media spouting off a 1 followed by a bunch of zeros.

For one thing you would need to have some statistics on how many lottery tickets the clerks buy (as compared to the rest of the population). My guess is they might buy a bunch more tickets than your average Joe... this would change the results.

/You won a free ticket, lucky you!
 
2006-10-25 12:09:19 PM  
I always wondered WHY they put up with those annoying lotto players all day long.
 
2006-10-25 12:09:19 PM  
submitter: Best way to win a big lottery prize in Ontario is to work for the corporation that runs the lottery.


Let's just clarify what "insider wins" really means:

A statistical analysis of the number of insider wins concluded that fewer than 60 insiders, such as ticket retailers or clerks, should have won major prizes during the period that was investigated.

Subby makes it look like OLGC executives are engineering their own wins, when really this is simply about Apu Nahasapeemapetilon palming your million-dollar mealticket and telling you "Congratulations! You won $10. Thank you, come again!"
 
2006-10-25 12:09:23 PM  
In Canadian odds, that's one in a million, million, million.
 
2006-10-25 12:11:36 PM  
WhiskeyBoy: The lottery is just gambling, and it's taxed.

Only where you live. In Canada, lottery jackpots are entirely tax-free.
 
2006-10-25 12:13:50 PM  
Contacted Atlantic Lottery about this today with regards to a story that I was doing on tonight's show.

Simple solution - always fill in the back of the ticket with your name and sign it. Do that before you take it in to be checked. Then even if the sleezy clerk tries to take the ticket and collect your big prize - he / she cannot.

J
 
2006-10-25 12:16:12 PM  
Talon_Helix,

Mike_Bolton:

I might not be an english expert, but that headline made perfect sense to me. Your criticism of smitty is unnecessarily harsh.

Tone down the douchebaggery.


Indeed; submitter's usage is correct. I suppose, at the very worst, it could be considered slightly awkward but the meaning is clear and again, grammatically correct.
 
2006-10-25 12:16:27 PM  
WhiskeyBoy

It's even worse than a tax. Lottery revenue is typically used to pay for things that should be paid for with taxes (e.g. public schools). The result is that the burden for funding these programs shifts disproportionally to the people who buy the most lottery tickets, i.e., the poor and lower middle class.
 
2006-10-25 12:18:26 PM  
PorkChopSndwich5: /tuba and then some slurred horns

I'm laughing at that, and I don't know why.
 
2006-10-25 12:18:43 PM  
Goodfellas narrator: "Then there was University of Toronto professor Jeffrey 'Four Times' Rosenthal who got that nickname because he said everything four times."
 
2006-10-25 12:21:24 PM  
twobux: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1. Isn't that the same odds as the Devil Rays winning the World Series in 2007?

No. The odds are nil.

/Gads I hope I'm wrong.
//Go Rays!
 
2006-10-25 12:22:06 PM  
Whoa. Working at a Majik Mart makes me a Lottery Insider. I guess that makes me a Playboy Insider too.
 
2006-10-25 12:27:06 PM  
The lottery is puting my sons through college.
 
2006-10-25 12:31:06 PM  
M-O-O-N,that spells "fixed"
 
2006-10-25 12:34:33 PM  
I was mugged once with several LA lotto tickets in my wallet. I think the prize was 150 million. i had photocopied the tickets (mulitiple players) and was hoping one of the 100 plays would win (10 ticks x10 plays per tick).

/robber would have tried to cash in
//not knowing i had proof
///hilarity did NOT ensue as they did not win
 
2006-10-25 12:34:40 PM  
This is like "The Island" except it's for a fake lottery none of us can probably end up winning (at least as it is intended).
 
2006-10-25 12:34:56 PM  
You mean I can't trust the min. wage earning, Goth chick behind the counter at the mini-mart?
 
2006-10-25 12:35:13 PM  
Control_this: Whoa. Working at a Majik Mart makes me a Lottery Insider. I guess that makes me a Playboy Insider too.


Makes you a Swank insider too, but I doubt anyone would want to get too far inside anything I've ever seen in there.
 
2006-10-25 12:37:50 PM  
Talon Helix - never.

if that makes sense to you, bravo.
 
2006-10-25 12:38:28 PM  
oldfarthenry, trust her maybe not. But have her put that tongue ring to good use; for sure.
 
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