lawboy87: Ever hear of Munchaussen's syndrome by proxy? Perhaps wife was using the child in order to get attention for herself, wouldn't be the first time nor the last.

I'm with you. I smell shenanigans on the coont!

By the way, anyone who went to law school knows eed is an affirmative defense... this is in no way a defense of crazy Kapusta!!!

Kapusta FTWL!

The Southern Dandy: White = 5-10 for manslaughter
Brown = 20-Life with parole
Black = 25-Life no parole


If I get enough sun I turn brown... should I time my crimes so the sentence is handed in the winter?

/got nada

why are you libtards giving Kapusta a hard time! he TOLD you what the "facts" are, now stop your whining..."We want links! What's your source?" blah blah lieberal backtalk

F42 - that and the fact that we are all just different shades of brown anyway.

Caelistis

Film it and sell it on a website!

comedy gold!

Man thats like farting in the elevator.

/stop looking at me people
//you do it too

dhudd 4 boys, ages 22, 23, 26 and 29.

Rather past the molestable stage.

All working at solid, good jobs ranging from highly intellectual to blue collar to artistic.

Meaning what? No one made management?

If they didn't know the difference between a truth and a lie by the time they were four, then you apparently weren't much of a parent.

My comment was made because you would be willing to knife a guy because of something your 4 year old said. Your genes should have ended with you.

Hell, no, I would have choked the life out of him with my bare hands. You should also re-read my original post, there was an "if", a "slight chance", and a "might" in there somewhere.

Or are you so enlightened that you're actually pro-molestation? (See? I can make idiotic inferences as well.)

Lastly, if you aren't willing to kill or die to protect your children then you're beneath contempt.

Thant's it.

From Law.com, Sept 5:

The extraordinary facts of the case have piqued the interest of many in the state's criminal bar. Prosecutors, defense attorneys, even judges, were "buzzing" about the incident, reported attorney William Westcott of Corsello & Cohen in Norwalk. "The overarching visceral response of defense attorneys -- other than wishing such a high-profile case would come their way -- was that, in this case, a defense attorney would finally get to wave the terrible flag about the horrors of child molestation," Westcott said.

Even a judge commented that he might do the same thing if he learned that his granddaughter had been abused, Westcott said.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1157135238268&rss=newswire

/I ain't sayin' it's right, just sayin' it is.

I think toxicmunkee is closest. When a 2 year old says something like "comes to me in the starry night," I'm thinking that she is dreaming. I'm surprised her mother didn't question her about it before her father murdered Barry.

/Against the DP/
//Thinks the father should DIAF//

I think that people's reaction to this story hinges on whether or not you have kids. Yeah, I have a temper and cherish my son, but would I kill the guy outright? I'd gather the facts - in about ten minutes - and then kill the guy. REEEEEAAALLL SLOW LIKE.

Fatroll

Ok. Sure. I can proove I've never killed myself. The fact I'm alive and the accusation of my suicide are mutually exclusive.

But what is mutually exclusive to somebody molesting a girl?

That depends on what exactly the molesting consisted of.

If the accused molesting act was jacking off on someone's blue dress, that definitely would leave evidence on way or another.

In this case . . . the lack of severe tearing of the nostril? No idea.

Kapusta: Perhaps if you actually took the time to read up on the court briefings, all of the documents, etc-- which I have done--

You're glib.

how in the hell does a fat drunk naked dude get into your house at night, molest your kid, get back out of the house and you never wake up? unless he's coming in through the second story window, and even then given the circumstances, that's hard to believe.

Kapusta
...all the random facts you guys can conjure...

They're pertinent facts. It's not about masturbatory who's-smarter. It's about you defending vigilante justice which has questionable ethics, as highlighted by this case.

FACTS: Mr. Edintgon is a highly educated lawyer. A member of the New York Bar, and a certified Patent Lawyer. But you're right, all he can get with his meagre education is a job serving fries at the local McDonalds.

Being convicted of a felony will get him disbarred. What high paying company would hire a felon? I'm glad you finally concede my point.


In jail, for those long 2-3 days that he'll have to serve after he's convicted on EED, which will net him 2 years, minus time served = 2-3 days to process his exit from jail.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that he's already missed half of his daughters's life by this point. Yeah, great father.

And bankrupted by civil suits. Right. Are Barry's parents going to sue Mr. Edington from denying their son the ability to mooch from them!? It's not like the guy had a family OR a job. He was a bum. His death brought about no financial loss.

RTFA: "'The family of Barry James is adamant that Barry James was not a child molester, would never have harmed that child,' Richard Meehan, the family's attorney, said Tuesday. " It would seem he had a family with a lawyer.

In conclusion, you are stupid.

So now the police is in the business of proving people didn't do something?

/..right...

Kapusta = Nancy Grace

Slappy Kincaid: how in the hell does a fat drunk naked dude get into your house at night, molest your kid, get back out of the house and you never wake up? unless he's coming in through the second story window, and even then given the circumstances, that's hard to believe.

Maybe it's Santa Claus?

As to all the "liberal" charges, there's one guy in the thread who's spent the entire time looking down on Americans, siding with the trial lawyers, second-guessing the police, and calling for special rights for murderers. Kapusta, you're to the left of Jane Fonda, you Canadian commie.

xopher.tm
Lastly, if you aren't willing to kill or die to protect your children then you're beneath contempt.

Thant's it.

Good principle, terrible facts.

If molestation already took place, you weren't protecting jack by killing the guy; offense has already been committed.

As for protection, locking the guy up in prison for 20 years would have sufficed. By the time he came out, the kid would have outgrown his perversion.

Being the protector of your children is one thing, being a self-righteous murderous jackass is another. You don't have to be the latter to be the former.

Note to self: Don't live next door to someone with a two-year-old. You never know what the hell they're going to say, or how their whack-job parents will interpret it.

riskatecrew
And all others claiming, "But they found the accusations false!"

How exactly do you question a dead man? Without questioning the suspect you cannot 100% confirm guilt in a case like this. Seems like the FALSE stamp was put on due to insufficient evidence.

Speaking as a rational person, If my daughter said something like that, I would ask her what she meant, get as much info from her as possible to make sure it's a valid accusation, then go call the cops.

However, if I CAUGHT the guy doing it, he'd be toast. They would not find enough of his body to send home in a thimble.

/Proud and protective daddy.

Slappy Kincaid: how in the hell does a fat drunk naked dude get into your house at night, molest your kid, get back out of the house and you never wake up?

Santa?

fragbert: Note to self: Don't live next door to someone with a two-year-old. You never know what the hell they're going to say, or how their whack-job parents will interpret it.

Better yet, just kill the two year old's parents now, because they get a chance to stab you to death for something stupid their child says.

Damn you, untrustworthy! I need to find/use that F5 key.

safeinsane: Santa?

Beatcha to it ;p

I am the law! Put down your weapons and prepare to be judged.

xopher - the 29 year old owns his own company; the 26 year old is an analyst in an inspector general's office; the 23 year old is an architech doing the PhD in construction building and the 22 year old is a pipefitter.

You are a twit.

Justice is exclusively the job of the courts; not the enraged daddy. The reason for that is because enraged daddies are often wrong.

You are a twit (oh, shiat, I already said that)

Please stop having children and perhaps educate the one you made to get fixed before it's too late.

Sounds like yet another lying BIATCH.

Should be a Lying Biatch Tag.

Slappy Kincaid: how in the hell does a fat drunk naked dude get into your house at night, molest your kid, get back out of the house and you never wake up? unless he's coming in through the second story window, and even then given the circumstances, that's hard to believe.

Stories said the window was 4 ft. off the ground. The victim/molester (depending on your perspective) allegedly had leg problems, which would make it difficult for him to climb into a window.

Kapusta-"He was a sex offender, and regularly walked naked around his house in plain view of the Edington's.

"For the record: James, 58, had no police record of child molestation."

Source: http://www.thinkandask.com/2006/092306-pedwar.html. I don't know how to hotlink, and not sure if it's a reliable source, but at least I'm willing to cite a source. Where's yours? You've been all but begged for one.

Philip J. Fry

Can't I just burn down the whole house?

I guess it's overkill (no pun intended!), but better safe than sorry!

I call forth the righteous fire of vigilante justice!

Oh, crap, I missed.

MrToast: Next time, you may want to compose your headline in Word, spellcheck it, then paste it into the submission form.

or get firefox 2.0 rc3, which has a built in spell checker.

dhudd: Justice is exclusively the job of the courts; not the enraged daddy. The reason for that is because enraged daddies are often wrong.

Uh, you're not serious?
This particular brand of tragedy happens on a daily basis INSIDE america's courts. Cops jump to conclusions ALL THE TIME- and they never look back. The prosecutors have a quota, man! How sick is that? The only difference here is that this guy martyr'd himself, where normally the cops just shrug and do it again.
Welcome to America, you need to wake up!

Damn, dropped an end bold. Anybody seen it?

Sapien - it's the job of the courts; I didn't say they did that job well, but it is the job of the courts.

"This guy marty'd himself" Ok, I see you are a wack job muslim so I apologize so you won't behead me.

Your picture is very accurate.

so, if you're a naked alcoholic, you deserve to be murdered?

glad i don't like in kapussy's world.

Justice: 0
Whackjob kneejerk overprotective parents: 0
HERO tag: 0

Looks like nobody wins this one.

Kapusta:

you've not posted a link or any sort of evidence backing up your information on this guy. i'm sure you can easily find it with a google search, but you're the one making the claims here and the burden of proof is on you.

in any event, vigilantism is illegal. it doesn't matter if the guy really did molest the daughter or not, you cannot take justice into your own hands and murder someone. you can defend yourself if your life is in immediate danger, but that was never the situation here.

the father should have called the police. i'm not a big fan of the police, but at least they, and the justice system, would have launched an investigation that would have sought justice and uncovered everything possible about the case. now, at worst, we will never know the truth.

Its a Jump to conclusions mat

demonsnake69

Meh, say what you want about the dad--a lot of parents would've done the same thing.

Only if a lot of parents are reactionary, psychotic morons. Admittedly, the jury's still out on that...

/parent

dhudd: "This guy marty'd himself" Ok, I see you are a wack job muslim so I apologize so you won't behead me.

I think you best look up "racism" under the FarQ. Whitebread.

As much as this guy sounds like a "free spirit", walking around naked, being drunk, taunting the neighbor, etc. -- I don't think "he deserved it", as someone said. (I'm too lazy to scroll back up and find who to quote.) Just because he was a terrible neighbor (even a naked, drunk, rude one) doesn't mean he should get stabbed to death for (apparently NOT) molesting a little girl...

If it was legal to kill bad neighbors... well, let's just say I'd live waaaaaaaaaaaaay out in the boonies by myself. ;)

Epsilon: He puts it on my belly and on my nose when he comes to me in the starry night? What kind of two year old talks like this?

That's what I was thinking. Also, they filed molestation charges *after* the guy was killed.

I'm leaning towards "drug deal went bad" or "caught him cheating with my wife" or something like that, the guy kills him, then he tries to set up a defense by claiming his daughter was molested.

I didn't see the previous article, and this one doesn't have a ton of info. The cops say they are confident she wasn't molested, but the only evidence given to say why they believe that is that the dead guys family say "He wouldn't do something like that". Well, that is what the family says about all kinds of nutcases.

Kapusta: He molested the girl, no doubt about it.

The cops disagree. And I suspect they know more about the case than a nutbag like you.

Second how can the police conclude positively that he did not do it?

I don't know. But before he gets killed over it, it should be proved that he *did* do it. And that doesn't seem to have happpened.