It's South America. Who cares?

Well, it's certainly an interesting development, but you're not going to learn anything useful from this terrible article. The writer is foaming at the mouth with Chavez-hatred and he's making up facts. For starters, it's not 20 bases being built, it's 2 or 3, according to other sources. And nobody else mentions anything about Venezuelan or Cuban troops being stationed there. This is a pretty shiatty propaganda piece. Miami Herald - I'm guessing the writer is a Cuban ex-pat or a relative of one.

Here's a much better look at the situation:

http://www.isn.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=16728

Chavez is a threat to big oil.

That makes him every bit as dangerous as Saddam or even that guy in Iran.

/Think for yourselves people.

Nice to see that the Bolivian president they just elected, darling of the fawning NPR interview, has just surrendered his country's sovreignity.

for the record - i'd like to see how quick this becomes either a bush did it or anti/theological uninformed debate.

fark'd today.

I thought "South America" was called Mexico.


/Drinking Corona makes me culturally sensitve.

This is Bush's fault!
I call for an antitheological uninformed debate!

I want fuzzy candy, hold the puppies.

It is Bushes fault.

He frightens the world into making bad decisions.

damn - 3 posts

You all are the devil and this thread smells of sulfur.

Para todos!

but - how does this effect your views on other pepole's reliogn's that have no bearing on your life?

/I really want to know.

just for you Eio Hoi

THEY GONNA TAKE ER FREEDOMS!

yipyipyipyipyeeeeeeeeeeha!

Arica Siempre Arica

// Well, maybe not with this crap going on.
/// Bolivia is a powderkeg.

hahahhaha


but wait.. I'm Canadian!

I thought his 15 minutes was up already!

There's a SOUTH America?

Here comes the Chavez fanbois

Wow. Great article. Actually makes Fox look fair and balanced.

Also, Chavez may want to build military bases, and perhaps even want to stock them with his own (and Cuban) troops, but it's doubtful that the PNAC crew will let it happen just like that. Don't be shocked if this inspires armed rebels supported by the US, just like the golden age of the Cold War.

And the US bases in Japan, Germany, Iraq, Korea, Cuba, Denmark, Belgium, Guam, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Italy, France, Iceland, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkey, UK and about 40 other countries......those are just to distribute candy and puppies too.

Kaga "Think for yourselves people"

Aren't we the dreamer today.

champo -

you can't just call for a debate - at least offer some opio..fact that you've found after soul-sreaching, fair and balanced research done on Wikipedia.

Just out of curiousity, which South American country is supposed to be the level-headed one these days? Not trying to be a wise-ass, just wondering if there is a voice of reason in that neck of the woods.

OOOHHH, Champo, you just Zinged Eio

bwahahahahah

whoa - thick fingers today.

/if you needed to know that.

Most certainly, the Cubans will carry Venezuelan passports and identification papers. It isn't easy to tell them apart.

Also, a connoisseur can tell real Cubans from the rest. Just have them roll some cigars. If they're too tight, they're not real Cubans.

/prolly Dominicans

So your saying Bolivia is no longer a safe vacation spot? Geez first the drug lords and now the communist. Why oh why do the Bolivians hate our freedoms, I say we bring them democracy American style.

Mass Farking Spot!!!!!!11!one!!

okay, you all can call this guy a retard. But the fact is, he knows how to get people on his side. He knows what people want and what will make them like him. He goes with it.
Very much unlike our president who more or less forces it down your throat even if you do not like it.

so that's what zingin' feels like? Peany1 - work with me here.

An inflamatory article in a conservative newspaper that makes outragious claims and lists no source for their information.

Thanks - you've been a lot of help...

?Que tal algunas fotos de latinas bonitas?

my favorite thing about chavez is that rafael lacava, the guy running against him for president of venezuela, came out and said it was an insult to the devil to compare him to someone as intellectually inferior as george bush. the bbc guy who reported this goes on to say, "well then, no friends in venezuela for washington either way i suppose"... meh heh

Eio

It's like...'OOOOHHHH, I've been Zinged!!!'

but you are both in the process of now Double Zinging each other...cool.

Chavez is playing Bush like a fine piano, but that is not hard at all, except that Bush isn't a fine piano - he's a farking out of tune, missing 12 strings spinet.

And on the Che thing - suggeste all watch the movie "The Motorcyel Diaries". It might give you some balance to the whole South American thing.

Also - read the book "1491" - it is stunning.

Opps, suggsted farkers read a book - goes begging to not get bannitated for causing tired lips.

The US is over-extended enough militarily without popping up, even in an "advisory" capacity (or whatever the heck rationale you care to name) in Central and South America. Chavez has enough to worry about in his own nation without trying to export a candy-and-puppy show to his neighbors.
/always thought Brazil was pretty stable politically but now not so sure

Peany1 - you sir, are not married.

water off a ducks back.

The US has a few hundred too many military installations around the world to be pointing fingers over this.

ChairmanKaga

Just don't worship Chavez because he's a charismatic Bush hater. He appeals to the mob, but that doesn't mean he's going to be good for South America in the end. We'll see. The fact is even if you flip the argument around to Bush, the pseudo-Texan will be gone in two years.

I'll respect Chavez a little bit more if he steps down at the end of his term. The moment Venezuela's constitution is modified to allow him to run again or he simply seizes power, then he's just other dictator like hundreds of others.

Eio

Not married, thats affirmative

Calling me Sir, well, sorry, I'm of female variety

about time south america became a power block instead of a backwater.

Great. Where's my coke?

ChairmanKagaChavez is a threat to big oil.

What is Chavez? "Small oil"?

Candy and fuzzy puppies.... Awwwwwwwwwwwww!...Now come on, guys... does that sound like a "madman bent on destruction"? Perhaps, Mr. Chavez is just misunderstood. *runs out of the room before anyone can be suspicious* Though, I do agree with Champo... this is all Bush's fault. He makes a great scapegoat.

This guy is so far to the right he makes The Wall Street Journal look like Mother Jones. Here are some of his articles, in English:

http://www.firmaspress.com/english.htm


Check the "God versus Darwin" one, down the list a bit.


KernLead

Just out of curiousity, which South American country is supposed to be the level-headed one these days?

One problem is that they are all Catholic. Lotsa luck finding any Catholic nation that isn't a bunch of rutabagas.

/Oops, I forgot Poland.