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(TIL)   "Massive" flaw in latest generation of speed cameras means drivers can avoid tickets merely by changing lanes   (thisislondon.co.uk) divider line 67
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2006-10-15 06:59:53 PM
If I ever got a speeding ticket in Pounds Sterling, I'm pretty sure I'd ignore it.
 
2006-10-15 07:16:26 PM
For Our left side of the road driving friends only
 
2006-10-15 07:42:09 PM
"Serpentine!"

/name the(?) movie
 
2006-10-15 07:57:56 PM
Microsoft is releasing an update in the near future. In the meantime MS asks everyone to please drive in the same lane.
 
2006-10-15 08:31:13 PM
Police chiefs were last night forced to urge drivers not to exploit the shortcoming by trying to evade the cameras.
..
Med Hughes, head of roads policing for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said it would be 'irresponsible' and dangerous for drivers to change lanes in a bid to avoid detection
...
'Motorists are strongly advised not to seek to evade detection by unnecessarily changing lanes as this would generate a greater risk of collision


etc. etc. Incredibly repetitive article.
 
2006-10-15 09:40:40 PM
co-conspirator
Freebie and the Bean (?)
 
2006-10-15 09:51:03 PM
"Police chiefs were last night forced to urge drivers not to exploit the shortcoming by trying to evade the cameras."

BWHAHAHAHAHA.
 
2006-10-15 09:52:36 PM
I have all of the Speed Cams in the UK programmed into my Sat Nav. Very handy, helped me avoid getting fined 3 times now :)
 
2006-10-15 09:53:05 PM
Let's hear all the asshats saying "I've never had a speeding ticket, my secret? I drive the speed limit LAWL LAWL!!!2!"
 
2006-10-15 09:56:06 PM
Hey, here's an idea -- take 1: Randomly recalibrate half the cameras to watch the "wrong" lane. Think outside the box a little.

Hey, here's an idea -- take 2: Step out of 1984 and acknowledge that, while speeders are generally total asshats, the cure you've come up with is worse than the disease.
 
2006-10-15 09:57:15 PM
cameras which calculate a car's average speed over a long distance

Fark's sake. Is the traffic really so bad in Britain that it's come to this?

It must really suck ass living in Britain. Driving there, anyway.
 
2006-10-15 09:57:43 PM
"
Let's hear all the asshats saying "I've never had a speeding ticket, my secret? I drive the speed limit LAWL LAWL!!!2!"'

Wanna be tif everyone started driving the speed limit, theyd drop it by anotehr 10mph?
 
2006-10-15 09:59:52 PM
www.comics.com.ve

road hog!
 
2006-10-15 10:01:14 PM
I like this. It proves that they're not putting these in for safety, they're putting them in for extra revenue. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
2006-10-15 10:06:43 PM
Unknown_Poltroon: Wanna be tif everyone started driving the speed limit, theyd drop it by anotehr 10mph?

Probably, once that ticket revenue dropped. I wonder how much money is spent monitoring which stretches of road are the most profitable. It's been proven time and again that traffic is self regulating anyhow.
 
2006-10-15 10:07:44 PM
Worse than wanting more revenue, drivers now have to make evasive maneuvers.
 
2006-10-15 10:09:04 PM
That article needed 97 paragraphs to say "Don't switch lanes to avoid the camera". I think they could have squeezed it into 94 or so.
 
2006-10-15 10:11:17 PM
The astonishing loophole means that millions of speeding drivers around Britain could escape a £60 fine and three points on their licence. The hidden blind-spot - revealed today by the Daily Mail - raises questions about the supposedly foolproof hi-tech camera system which is increasingly used on Britain's roads.

man, no guns and now cameras? those brits are running towards 1984/nazi germany.
 
2006-10-15 10:12:33 PM
Speed cameras discouraging safety?

Next thing you'll tell me is that Politicians might not be the most ethical people in the nation.

I for one wont hear of it. *Hands over ears* LA LA LA..
 
2006-10-15 10:15:53 PM
How about voting the asshats who started this crap out of office. Furthermore, any public servant who proposes further speedtraps should be frogmarched out of office.
 
2006-10-15 10:16:54 PM
I remember when they had the camera-equipped vans by the side of the road of our 400-series highways (generally four lanes and up.) It turned driving into a goddamn adventure, particularly at night. You're be cruising along at 130 km/h six car lengths behind the guy in front, he'd come up on a police van, stand on the brakes and you'd damn near drive into his trunk, while the semi behind you tried to turn you into a subcompact. Yeah, speed kills, but not as effectively as diffrentials in speed.
 
2006-10-15 10:17:54 PM
"Serpentine!"


The In-Laws

/do I get a prize?
 
2006-10-15 10:19:00 PM
Bah, I heard all you have to do is get your car up on two wheels and they can’t detect you at all.
 
2006-10-15 10:20:26 PM
"...these cameras measure a driver's average speed between two fixed points - which can be many miles apart."

To think, one day our overlords will just be putting a tracking system in all of our vehicles, which automatically reports you to the police, and your insurance company should your speed ever creep above the posted limit.
 
2006-10-15 10:21:47 PM
I've never had a speeding ticket, my secret? I drive the speed limit LAWL LAWL!!!2!
 
2006-10-15 10:21:52 PM
If we change lanes, the terrorists have won.
 
2006-10-15 10:22:07 PM
The karma of siezed property is a biaatch!
 
2006-10-15 10:24:32 PM
Insurance companies in the UK are already fitting tecking systems to cars 'To see where you drive and at what time'
you can save money.

Thay fail to mention they can monitor your speed as well
 
2006-10-15 10:24:52 PM
So British Farkers, what is it like to live in the country where personal freedoms are disappearing at an astonishing rate? Or at least that's how it appears. With the Gatso 2 program it seems that big brother can monitor your every movement. (for your protection of course)
Does it really suck that much ass to live there or is it just me? I'm in Canuckistan btw.
 
2006-10-15 10:27:05 PM
England prevails.
 
2006-10-15 10:31:24 PM
vowell1055

ROFL
 
2006-10-15 10:33:02 PM
ColumbusGround: I've never had a speeding ticket, my secret? I drive the speed limit LAWL LAWL!!!2!

Man I called that one.

/off to guess the lottery numbers
 
2006-10-15 10:34:14 PM
HeliumAddict: So British Farkers, what is it like to live in the country where personal freedoms are disappearing at an astonishing rate? Or at least that's how it appears. With the Gatso 2 program it seems that big brother can monitor your every movement. (for your protection of course)
Does it really suck that much ass to live there or is it just me? I'm in Canuckistan btw.


What's this "freedom" thing, chap?

England prevails, wot wot.
 
2006-10-15 10:35:52 PM
How about I speed all the time I have never gotten a speeding ticket or use anything like radar detectors.

35-40 in a 25 for example.

Of course, now that I said this I am going to get a ticket when I havent even pulled out of my driveway tomorrow.
 
2006-10-15 10:39:56 PM
for good or for awesome: Bah, I heard all you have to do is get your car up on two wheels and they can't detect you at all.

If I were in England and I saw a car on two wheels and it's horn played "Dixie" and the driver yelled "Yeeehaaaaw!" in a British accent... why I do believe that I could die having lived a full life.

\Car wouldn't even hafta be orange
 
2006-10-15 10:41:21 PM
2006-10-15 10:24:52 PMHeliumAddict
So British Farkers, what is it like to live in the country where personal freedoms are disappearing at an astonishing rate?


This isn't a rights issue. In the UK we don't have the right to break the law, and we don't have a right for police not to be able to see our number plates when we're on a public street.
 
2006-10-15 10:41:33 PM
wait a second... so we cannot change lanes in the interest of safty? why have more then one lane then?

/so obvious
 
2006-10-15 10:46:08 PM
********these cameras measure a driver's average speed between two fixed points - which can be many miles apart.********

So it can tell which car is which and the licence number and the driver inside and the difference between night and day and how many cops inside to keep the police detachment warm.

Come on. This can't be the only flaw....
 
2006-10-15 10:47:07 PM
I've gotten two speeding tickets, but I didn't learn my lesson. Going back to college today, I hit 100 mph on the interstate.

/I would have been so screwed if there was a speed trap
//Drives a Buick
///Slashies!
 
2006-10-15 10:48:18 PM
co-conspirator: "Serpentine!"

/name the(?) movie


Weekend At Bernie's
 
2006-10-15 10:50:52 PM
jay_vee: 2006-10-15 10:24:52 PMHeliumAddict
So British Farkers, what is it like to live in the country where personal freedoms are disappearing at an astonishing rate?

This isn't a rights issue. In the UK we don't have the right to break the law, and we don't have a right for police not to be able to see our number plates when we're on a public street.


But in the uk and europe for the fact.. No rights exist when driving a car.

/Happens here too.
//Not breaking the law either.
///Lots of roadblocks
 
2006-10-15 11:01:13 PM
I blame Bush Camilla Parker-Bowles.
 
2006-10-15 11:02:30 PM
www.astralwerks.com

/Massive
 
2006-10-15 11:09:18 PM
So, wait...WHY can't the cameras read across lanes? It explicitly says it's a "Home Office" rule. If the government is concerned about it, they can just change their stupid rule. It doesn't make any sense to piss on people's rights like that and then stop because of their own red tape: if they're going to be evil, they should at least be competently evil.

/not that I speed much anyway
//although that's because of fuel economy concerns
//or live in England...
 
2006-10-15 11:15:26 PM
If they set the speed limits at a reasonable speed, there wouldn't be so many speeders.

Most people want to follow the law. Whether they're proud to be law-abiding or simply want to avoid punishment, most people want to follow the law. If you have reams of people breaking the law, that ain't a problem with the people. Sorry.

In my own (limited, Canadian) experience, the limits are dangerously low: it's perfectly safe to drive ten to twenty klicks faster, even in bad weather, and if you force yourself to slow down, you get frustrated. Would you rather deal with a frustrated driver doing the limit or a happy one doing an extra ten an hour? Not to mention that doing the limit makes you slower than everyone else and therefore increases your odds of getting rear-ended by some ungodly factor.

Now, there are some speed-freaks out there and by all means, they should be punished. However, if it's a monetarily worthwhile endeavour to invest in a nation-wide network of speed cameras--if the fines you get from the speeders pay back the cost of the cameras--then your limits are too goddamn low.
 
2006-10-15 11:27:30 PM
i live in a small town and was playing car tag with a guy i went to school with and got pulled over doing 90 in a 25. the cop just said don't do that and let me off with a verbal warning.

//small towns rock
///only have had 1 ticket
////got it from biatch of a cop that just wanted to harrass me and my friends
//after the ticket she took off (speeding) then parked in the median ahead and waited for us to catch up
//she then proceded to tailgate me until i decided to get off the interstate and pull into a restaurant
//she followed us into the parking lot then took off
//whats the record for slashies?
 
2006-10-15 11:30:11 PM
www.davidicke.com

ENGLAND PREVAILS!!!1!!!1!one!
 
2006-10-15 11:47:11 PM
You know, eventually they'll just put GPS things in every car and do away with cameras altogether. And if they stop getting signal from your car for more than (say) a day or so, they'll know you tampered with the GPS unit and send you to PMITAP.
(end prophecy mode)
 
2006-10-15 11:49:58 PM
gradatim

what if you're parked inside a building that blocks the signal?
 
2006-10-15 11:58:06 PM
what if you're parked inside a building that blocks the signal?

Well, with GPS they'd be able to tell you're inside a building, right?
 
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